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Benjamin22

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  1. Three years between rides is far too long. There’s no reason as to why basic maintenance and new attractions have to be mutually exclusive. I’m not expecting a major new ride but new flats would be enough to keep guest interested in the park. If they don’t add a new ride then to be honest I don’t see any reason to renew my pass especially with the price increase that’s certainly coming. 

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  2. A-yup, it's the Cedar Fair way. Don't get me started on the hand sanitizer, if they couldn't bother reliably filling it up during the pandemic then there's no reason for them to even be around the park. How long do we give it until the glockenspiel stops working? If the park loves to push off maintenance of thematic elements of the park then why do they even bother sometimes. Just spend the money on static theming elements with no required maintenance (Such as the new train theming).  

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  3. 22 minutes ago, Oldschool75 said:

    That land didn't have a ride in it for the first 9 years of the park. I'd love to see them plant a bunch of trees and let it overgrow again to hide The Beast. 

    I’d much rather have a new Rollercoasters then Look at a bunch of trees. I don’t think development of the park should stall because of a 40+ year old wooden rollercoaster  needing to be “hidden”. That shipped sailed a long time ago. 

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  4. 12 minutes ago, Kenban said:

    The last year Cedar Fair published revenue and profit graphs which showed the individual parks in relation to each other was back in 2015 or 2016.  But at the time CGA was middle of the chain for revenue, but either last or next to last in profitability.  It was basically making around the same amount of money as Michigan's Adventure.  Which is actually a huge improvement, a few years before that the park was dead last for profitability and it was not even close.

    The reason the park had such low profitability was mostly due to the lease which cost 10 million a year. 

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  5. On 5/28/2022 at 10:26 AM, flightoffear1996 said:

    If people are willing to buy it sell it!  That is what makes America great!  Charge what you want sell what you want! 

    This aged well. One thing has been clear so far this season, Kings Islands pricing for these up-charge experiences is out of control. Feel bad for the suckers (if they even exist?) who spent $400 on the premium vip tour.   Glad the park is decreasing the cost but I still don’t think a lot of these experiences are worth their price, $25 would be what I’d charge for a slice of cake and premium firework viewing.

  6. 7 hours ago, disco2000 said:

    ^We all said that when FL was being tested here that nobody would pay $50 for that for one day....it sold out....now price can be double or more and people can purchase all season and FL sells out more days than not...

    I am sure the VIP fireworks will be no different and it will do well.  I suspect the majority will be the adult groups that come here for one day and splurge on FL+, daily meal plan, etc.

    Maybe you’ll be right but let’s not act like $75 dessert and a better view of a firework show will command the same amount of demand as fastlane. This product has way less benefit to someone’s overall experience compared to fastlane.

  7. 3 minutes ago, Shaggy said:

    Set your expectations high.  I caught wind of something at Coasterstock…

    Shaggy

     

    How to set people up for disappointment 101. Considering people were disappointed over Orion, a 31 million dollar giga coaster I think it’s better to set reasonable expectations here.

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  8. 1 hour ago, brenthodge said:

    I don’t really see adventure village as related to local history like the other areas. I think at this point, people want more “authentic” and local experiences instead of fake themed areas that Cedar Fair will never put the money into to pull off convincingly. That’s why I’d lean fully into Coney, German, Riverfront and wooded hills. Let IS be the glue that holds it together with “local” international favorites like Skyline and LaRosas but make them more  “LaFamiglia Pizzera-fearing LaRosas” to get away from the blatant corporate branding. I’d love to see all the pop drink umbrellas go away as well and instead build covered patios, but have awnings in the “corporate” color and then have crates with the logos and giraffe bottles stacked around. Overall the park just needs a major visual purge. 

    I disagree with your first point about how Cedar Fair will never be able to pull off an adventure themed area accordingly. The new jungle xpedition area at Kings dominion looks absolutely incredible. I don’t think guests really care if a jungle isn’t regionally authentic to Virginia. I do however agree that the park needs a significant visual improvement. Action Zone is a mega eye sore, the center of the park is just grass and shipping containers and of course the massive empty plot of grass in coney mall. I hope management continues to work toward better thematic Elements of the park. Rides like Orion have decent theming but it seems like they only had the budget to the meme 1/5th of the queue.

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  9. 33 minutes ago, FUN&ONLY! said:

    The mower might mean more than you think. I don’t believe the grass on The Vortex plot of land has ever been cut, but I noticed a section of it was mowed earlier today. I think it is plausible that the equipment could be used for taking soil samples in preparation for the planning of a new attraction. I think soil samples are taken 2-3 years before a new attraction opens, so it would make sense if Kings Island was planning to open a Vortex replacement in 2022 or 2023.

    Guess they don’t want to build another rollercoaster that sinks into the ground /s like Hawaiian said there was a bulldozer or something that cleared out some trees near the service road entrance I believe.  In addition I also saw a lot of activity near Banshees pretzel roll and the woods by AE.

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  10. This ride is almost certainly not being removed due to what happened in Orlando. Firstly it’s a totally different ride model so there’s no shared design flaw between  this and the Drop Tower. Ignoring that fact, the investigation isn’t even over, it’d be extremely questionable to remove every ride from a manufacture before the investigation is concluded. Based off of the ride models Wikipedia page Kings Island appears to have one of the oldest operating slingshots, however at this moment it doesn’t appear like any Funtime slingshots have been removed due to reaching the end of their service life. As such that makes this sudden removal of the ride more interesting.

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  11. 10 minutes ago, super7 said:

    This is a great point that i forgot about.  And it also makes me question just how profitable Winterfest actually is despite the great attendance.   If it is just regurgitating the same non-paying season passholders, then it isn't making what it would seem.   With the short 5 hour nights, there isn't really enough time to encourage in-park sales (hunger, thirst etc)

     

    IMO Cedar Fair should have made Winterfest a $25 add on to the season pass.  Nobody would have blinked.    But I also think KECO was idiotic including the water park in one gate.......

    Maybe they are headed that direction with the $99 Cedar Point pass that doesn't include Haunt.
     

    Winterfest offers a ton of up charge attractions that certainly help mitigate the aspects you’ve talked about here. Ice skating, carriage rides, igloos etc all offer revenue for the park.  In regards to the waterpark when I don’t see the issue including it with admission, if the park really wanted to they could easily charge extra for it ad the waterpark is already separated. 

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  12. 3 hours ago, Oldschool75 said:

    Looks like filming on a ride in the video. So the ban is justified. Break the rules, pay the price.


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    What video? Also again it’s plausible that it’s a case oF mistaken identity given how dark it is at Winterfest. For instance this season during Winterfest I was accused of filming on a ride even though I hadn’t. Not saying they’re innocent.

  13. 22 hours ago, FUN&ONLY! said:

    I feel like Vortex’s spot deserves better. I agree that Action Zone needs some live though, but I don’t think Xtreme Skyflyer belongs in Coney Mall or Rivertown. If Kings Island chooses to expand where Xtreme Skyflyer is, I would prefer it to just be removed entirely. Both Slingshot and Xtreme Skyflyer are kind of ugly rides in my opinion, and I would love for them to be replaced with better rides.

    I used to hold this exact same opinion about Xtreme Skyflyer. Then I actually rode and I’ve now fallen in love with the great. It’s probably my 2nd favorite ride in the park tbh. I think that it’s location in Action Zone is fine given there’s plenty of other rides (Invertigo, congo falls) that would be better candidates for removal. 

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  14. 3 hours ago, MrSourNinja said:

    I agree with this 100%. Always thought it was weird that there was a bunch of wide open space around Diamondback that is just grass. Looks like Orion is going to be the same way too. 

     

    It's probably so that if they ever need to get back there and do any work, they can. Just sucks because it could be so much cooler.

    At least with Orion they didn’t take out all the trees around the perimeter of the ride unlike Diamondback.

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  15. More operating days would likely be necessary. As others have mentioned on other thread having haunt be on Thursday days also would be a good way to potentially raise attendance. Additionally they’d probably need to find a way to boast Winterfest attendance. From limited personal observation KIs Winterfest seems to get significantly less attendance then some of the other parks.

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  16. 17 hours ago, Oldschool75 said:

    Starting to wonder if there will be a Haunt now. Covid cases in the area are rising dramatically. Hospitals in the local area are now at 90%+ full with Covid cases.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wlwt.com/amp/article/northern-kentucky-hospitals-filling-up-fast-with-covid-19-patients/37388701

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    Haunt is almost certainly going to happen, brings in way too much money. Also I don’t think the threat of covid is really going to scare off a large amount of Kings Islands clientele to be honest.  

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