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9 hours ago, disco2000 said:
What about Slingshot that was painted in the off-season and didn't open again and was removed? Or repainting aerial chase over less than what 2-3 years?
Same could be said about those, or countless other items. Sometimes stuff happens or situations change.
Opening up Tower Gardens was a lot cheaper than those examples lol.
But people demanded transparency from the KI Team and when finally provided with a proactive announcement they then complain when they get it LOL.... I assure you people would be here complaining Wednesday on the closure and that the KI Team should have made an announcement for a closure outside of the typical closure period LOL...
I guess we will find out soon enough if this is ACE related or a teaser for an unannounced event...
Maybe on here, but the average public wouldn’t bat an eye at it being closed. Hence, this is essentially an announcement of an announcement for all intents and purposes. Im not sure if this is a great example of transparency, given the context.
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39 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said:
I'm normally in agreement about your disdain for park communications. But in my opinion, inflammatory statements like this make you look petty.
Do you really think that a bunch of people would drive three hours to look at a sign saying the area was closed? Or are you just expressing your thoughts that the KI team are idiots?
No, I’m saying that it would be absurd to think that someone would do that and/or make that argument. So, for example, if they were going to close Orion for some reason, it would constitute a post like this, but TG isn’t exactly an attraction that sells tickets. That’s why I’m pretty certain that this is intentional as a teaser for something rather than an FYI. Sorry if I wasn’t clear with my post.
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Someone else suggested the ACE event being part of it, but I think that would be a level of foolish that event this current comms team couldn’t accomplish.
You gonna Tweet out to hundreds of thousands of people about an event where 750 are invited?
Do you think they’re going to get a long line at guest services of people demanding refunds because they drove three hours to check out Tower Gardens?
Tower Gardens closes for a big part of the summer for Haunt and Winterfest prep. Do you see messaging like this for that?
This post was intended to stir up speculation and interest. What’s delivered remains to be seen.
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https://www.wvxu.org/media/2024-05-02/evan-millward-jasmine-styles-leaving-wcpo-tv-tvkiese?
I’m not saying that he would make a really good PR guy for KI, but….
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Don and I discussed what this may mean to KI on the latest Tower Topics:
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55 minutes ago, Tr0y said:
I think it’s more noticeable assuming you frequent Kings Island more than any others in the chain.
However although my experience in park at CP didn’t seem much different. My experience staying overnight in their hotels was drastically different from the prior seasons.
Castaway bay was doing a ride rotation. Some of the slides never opened.
Breakers was operating skeleton crews to get rooms ready for guests. Imagine paying 300+ dollars a night and not getting to check in on time because the hotel didn’t have your room ready.
**Id also like to add Planet Snoopy at CP appeared as if it was on a ride rotation too.
I’m more talking about the 3 week run of the show in the big theater…. things along those lines. Meanwhile, Carowinds keeps adding and adding to their music festival. They’re doubling down on something that Kings Island wasn’t competent enough to market while our park is barely meeting the status quo.
Oh, and let’s not forget that they couldn’t handle the lofty concept of a chicken sandwich that they had marketed.
Some parks do what’s easy and some parks do what’s right. It’s up to the public to decided which side each park is on.
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I don’t even want a new coaster right now. Since KI seems to be cutting costs and experiences around every corner (which doesn’t appear to be nearly as true at other Cedar Fair properties) we’ll see a smaller, shorter, blander version of whatever is out there. I think I’d be content waiting for the merger to give the park a personnel enema before I give any hope of a quality installation.
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See? I told you everything would be a-okay.
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“Six Flags (SIX) highlighted that its new website will leverage AI, including personalization and a new upcoming loyalty program. Missi Six, the company's new digital concierge powered by Generative AI, will debut on the Six Flags (SIX) app and website.”
Seeking Alpha: https://seekingalpha.com/news/4095772-six-flags-takes-ai-into-its-theme-parks-as-part-of-a-planned-digital-transformation
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It has been widely reported that the double grilled chicken sandwich at the Rivertown Brewhouse, which was advertised to be a new food item along with the Dining Plans, has been permanently removed from the menu due to popular demand. This appears to now be official.You read that right.
#CaveatEmptor #AsAdorableAsItIsPredictable
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13 hours ago, disco2000 said:
Not that it makes it right, but from a business perspective, we see this type of activity all the time. The Beach sold passes and then had to refund, same with Coney Island when they announced their respective closures. Entertrainment Junction was selling passes before it was announced this might be its last year, and they are still selling passes knowing this year may be the final year (those passes are good for 365 days after purchase instead of following a calendar year). Restaurants and stores sell gift cards and then go bankrupt.
As a consumer it sucks, but they continue business as usual as long as they can because anything could happen to change the closure or whatever.
And we joke, but a certain member here is correct that season passes are not guaranteeing you that any specific ride will be open.
But at the same time, when your business model relies heavily on passes, the consumer bases their pass pre-purchase on historical and recent experiences. Eroding that by announcing a ride closure just before the season opens or cutting park hours after many passes were sold will turn some off and hold off until the last minute before purchasing.
Enough people decide to wait until the following year and purchase right before they are ready to visit the park will drastically cut down on pass sales, not only the early pre-season sales, but even during the season. Many people that would have bought a pass in August and wait, then come June may decide to spend their money elsewhere.
To be fair, Entertrainment will certainly take care of anyone who purchased a pass if they close. It’s the type of people they are. Coney’s thing didn’t pass the sniff test, but they ultimately did the right thing. All of these are extreme cases. Fundamentally changing the product after purchase under the banner of, “Terms are subject to change. Sucks to be you. No refunds” is in an ethical class of its own. Again, I do not know of KW knew about this far in advance or if they found out and immediately communicated it, but we’ve seen a lot of other examples that I feel support my point.
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16 minutes ago, IndyGuy4KI said:
So they will cut out the people that give them thousands of dollars of free advertising on a continual basis and treat them like crap. Solid business plan.
I have stayed pretty quiet about being treated like this, even thinking I did something wrong. I have literally driven hours to and from Indianapolis help support the park without riding a single ride while there. I don't own KIC, there is no reimbursement for gas or time. There it no hidden perk for me doing this other than loving the park and doing what I can to share my love with fellow enthusiasts. That is the same story for others too.
I sure hope one day they can again see how much of an asset and support they have instead of just throwing it out the window.
Never let someone else stomp on your passion! As we both know, until there is a new Comms Director, this issue will never change. For them, it’s always about their insecurities rather than how to best serve the park. They are not a fan of objective views. Hence the fact that a few dozen members of the 200 Follower & Under Club were invited out to the park for a construction tour but you and Chris weren’t. Either one of you reach more than all of those people combined - by a multitude.
As what is always said about the park’s guests and fed to a member here by one of the worst in the industry, “It’s as adorable as it is predictable .”
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https://sanduskyregister.com/news/517319/cedar-point-blocks-register/
Between one PR guy making an enemy out of the local paper and other making an enemy out of the guys who run the fan site and the 70k+ member season pass group, Ohio sure does have its fair share of winners!
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3 minutes ago, disco2000 said:
but, but, but, the season pass only provides you access to the park during regularly scheduled operating hours without any guarantee of any rides or attractions operating....
caveat emptor
I mean, I’m not pointing the fingers at Kennywood because maybe they just have made this decision, but I do have a little trouble believing that Carowinds and Kings Dominion didn’t know that they were cutting out months of operation before the bulk of the passes were sold.
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As I’ve been saying, ALWAYS wait as long as you can to purchase your season pass. Saving a few bucks is not worth buying a product and then find out what it is later.
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I think the reason they aren’t using RFID in the wristbands is that it would increase the cost. Not significantly, but a meaningful amount. For All Season FL, One Time FL, etc it maybe an infrastructure thing. Maybe the app doesn’t support it yet.
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Kings Island Announces Food and Wine Festival for 2024
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I can think of one person who will exclaim that this one is the best