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There ARE things that could be said that have not yet been said as the company wants them unsaid until the time of saying...
i just figured out who the interpreter really is...
'he's a pirate.'
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wow, i really like the names! except for zoom flume, the rest had kind of a tropical theme to them, and then that one...
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browntggrr, i think that is a broom, maybe? haha
this was great! the line about the fanny pack was the best.
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^the trip to disney world was actually a graduation gift from my grandparents...
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the loop's running rails were wooden, the track spine for the loop and the supports were steel, but the part the train 'coasted' over was the exact same as it was for the rest of the ride.*
*other than the fact that it went upside down.
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so, i was just wondering why obama is littering the website with campaign ads on the side bars and the bar above the 'KICentral' site banner. i come here to read about Kings Island and other related things, not to see his face.
edit: now there are even ones for santorum, someone else i'd rather not see while visiting the website.
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Hello all, I am not new to the site. I am a member but under a new name and identity.
is this really account number three? first pizzababy027, then gottabesomthinmore, and now dreamerontheedge.
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kifan1980, my family did the same exact thing. two years ago we were in san antonio, last year we were at disney world, and this year we will be in cleveland.
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obviously not cheap, didn't paramount pay over $20 million for the entire ride. what i meant was the cheaper route. i've read on here multiple times that for starters, they didn't want to pay the extra for the ride to be weather proof, which basically led to the demise of many of the show elements (mainly the water ones.).
i also read on here that paramount went against huss' recommendations on which type of braking system to use, they went with the cheaper one that failed often and caused significant downtime around once a season.
Well if you heard it on here it must be true! Since you seem to be an expert, can you please elaborate on the way in which the ride was supposed to be braked compared to how it was actually braked?
This is BS.
i never said i was an expert, i'm going by a story that sob_tom, i believe*, told about the ride in a thread that was deleted almost immediately after he had posted it. the story, by someone that was at least in maintenance, talked about how there were two types of brakes available for the giant top spin model. both 'worked' in doing what the ride needed to do, but the second option would have worked better, paramount chose the first option due to price.
*if it wasn't you sob_tom, i'm sorry for my memory mistaking me.
Let me lay it out for you. For KI's purposes, the HUSS design was flawed from the beginning. Not because HUSS's design was bad, it was bad for what KI wanted it to do. Topspins are supposed to be free moving and operate within a wide window of acceptable movement; almost to the point where as long as it homes at the end, the ride is fine. When KI decided the ride needed to sync with a show within a tiny margin error, the weight was simply too much to control. Ever notice how when you watch a normal topspin, they rarely come to a complete stop during the cycle? The ride suffers significantly more fatigue when its expected the be braked 100% (ie, abrupt full stop at the ice field, post topspin, pre lava pit, etc). Add the fact that the ride is twice the size and you're going to have problems. It's like trying to stop a freight train on a dime.
The braking was simple. The gondola used a large locomotive brake disc on each side (this is the orange circle inside the arm in TheKlockster's photo) with 11 brake calipers around it (11 at the end; the number of calipers was slowy increased in an attempt to brake more, if I recally correctly it originally only had 8 calipers each arm). The arms were braked by running the 3 motors on each side backward (relative to the instantaneous direction of motion). When the kinetic energy from the ride fought the motors, the motors became generators, turning the excess kinetic energy into electrical energy. This electrical energy was then fed into the giant bank of variable resistors behind the building, and the energy was converted to heat. Because these variable resistors are essentially switches actuating at high frequency, when this huge amount of energy was channeled into them, the actuation could actually be heard. This is the loud screech that could be heard behind Tomb Raider during the cycle.
The arms and gondola were loaded with encoders, and if the positioning wasn't correct for a given rung in the logic, the ride faulted. In addition the excessive size and simple fact that it was a prototype often meant that if something did not fall into place exactly as it should, things would break (most often the arm motors while trying to overcompensate.) Arm motors were very expensive and difficult to acquire.
The removal rows and closing off seats obviously expresses the idea that the reduction of mass would reduce the kinetic energy and decrease the load on the motors. In the end it still wasn't enough and all the changes to the ride significantly reduced the popularity. Now the simple fact is that the land is worth more as storage or a future attraction, than as a big box to burn money in.
thank you for explaining this, i love gaining more knowledge about Kings Island and its attractions, i was just relaying what someone from maintenance said on here.
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keep in mind, paramount took the cheap route while ordering the giant top spin. it could very well still be around today if they would have listened to huss' suggestions.
Cheap? The show elements and price of the attraction were far from cheap I bet. What were HUSS' suggestions?
obviously not cheap, didn't paramount pay over $20 million for the entire ride. what i meant was the cheaper route. i've read on here multiple times that for starters, they didn't want to pay the extra for the ride to be weather proof, which basically led to the demise of many of the show elements (mainly the water ones.).
i also read on here that paramount went against huss' recommendations on which type of braking system to use, they went with the cheaper one that failed often and caused significant downtime around once a season.
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keep in mind, paramount took the cheap route while ordering the giant top spin. it could very well still be around today if they would have listened to huss' suggestions.
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^^really?! that truly comes as a complete shock to me. whenever my grandparents take a vacation to florida, the holy land experience is almost always on their itinerary.
i can understand some people thinking of it as a terrible idea for a theme park, but it's supposed to be a biblical themed park, which tells stories from the bible, not to be a place like disney or universal.
dollywood's made me laugh, it basically said, 'dollywood is one of the weirdest theme parks because it's a number one attraction in tennessee and dolly parton is part owner.'
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It completed ten years of operation.
2002, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11.Wouldn't you agree that the close of the 2002 season marked "one year" of operation? If so, than the 2011 season's end marked "ten years" of operation.
to me, whether for an attraction or a person- one year is picking a day on the calender and going to the exact same date of the very next year (i.e.- january 1, 2000 to january 1, 2001), but to each their own. haha
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yet, ohiocolts stated that 'they are ruining 10 year celebrations.'
he never said the ride didn't run for ten seasons, he said it didn't even get to run for ten years. you don't come out of the womb being one year old already.
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someone asked earlier how they'd take it out, piece by piece. Assuming the architects who designed the building weren't stupid, they made sure to have a doorway out of the building that was big enough to remove the largest piece of equipment for the ride and bring back in a similarly sized replacement part. If there was something excessively large that couldn't be dismantled that they knew would mean a long term shut down, they'll cut a hole into the side of the building to get it out, then "patch" up the whole for future use.
somebody will surely correct me if i'm wrong, but the crypt, then tomb raider the ride, was fully constructed inside warehouse style building it's located in. i'm pretty sure i read that it was done to both protect the ride from the elements it wasn't designed to run in and to help keep the ride more secretive.
how about something similar to Epcot's "Soar" or is it "soaring"?
you were closer the second time, it's actually soarin'
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... and flight deck was painted over last off-season.
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haha, that was my sorry attempt at sarcasm, i guess i should have added a
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^maybe they planned on two coats?
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^i believe that was for nik wallenda's tight rope walk.
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And I bet in 1977, two things happened that probably wouldn't happen in today's society. Kings Island probably did their best to make up for the mishap (free tickets, merch etc) and everyone involved probably didn't try suing Kings Island. Not that this is fact by any means, but is probably a good representation of the changing of the times.
i believe i've read in multiple places that the stranded guests were given the opportunity for lifetime season passes. however, none took them because, 'they enjoyed the view.'
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^as in, was it a picture taken of kings dominion's Flight of Fear, or Kings Island's Flight of Fear?
for this, i'm not sure.
if you're asking if it is actually one of the two Flight of Fears in the picture, then the answer is yes. the picture is from back when the ride had shoulder restraints rather than the lapbar.
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knowing past name changes, i'm going with 'mat racers.'
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i also am running firefox, but my spell check is working fine.
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^reasons like this are what make me like this site so much. i've been saying the manufactures name completely wrong ever since i learned who it was.
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New KI app available in the next week
in Kings Island
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i love how even though Son of Beast isn't shown, they didn't try to cover the clearing where the ride sits- especially the rosebowl.