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The fact of the matter is that this virus is too new and the science doesn't absolute 100% provide proof one way or the other at this point on a lot of issues surrounding this virus. For every article someone finds to support their bias, someone else can find a contradictory article to support their bias. In absence of that 100% absolute certainty, regulatory agencies are going to adopt and recommend we practice the commonly accepted BMPs (best management practices) to help control and contain a virus spread. Another fact is that no country has gone through a complete 4-seasonal cycle of this virus, so the science isn't there to prove 100% whether this spreads outdoors or not. Again, one can find articles to support their bias. There are still a lot of unknowns about this virus. Some states that have opened up are now experiencing significant upticks in covid hospitalizations and Arizona has been told to activate emergency plans for their hospitals. These instances will tend to favor the idea that it can be spread outdoors as the articles all reference outdoor areas packed with people. Contact tracing will go a long way to help prove or disprove some of this. But our contact tracing will more than likely never get to the level of some other countries either. Several of the other countries that have had this virus earlier than the US has already had face masks as somewhat common place in their community and part of their culture, so that data is limited and not directly applicable to the US culture. No other country through this pandemic has experienced the non-social distancing without face masks protests, riots, and a love for roller coasters like the Americans. This data will be available in the coming weeks/months and will be a large data point moving forward in the science/medical community as it relates to spread outdoors. Until that time, science tells the regulatory agencies to err on the side of historical information as it relates to virus spread and containment. So large attractions either decide to open up and follow the BMP requirements at the time, or stay closed until the science on a new virus is more defined...

What if it was turned into an observation tower and restaurant to watch the biggest fastest tallest longest meanest metal roller coaster ever to strike Kings Island

I'll give you a pro tip - because of how the app works, until an update is available on the app, you ain't gonna see anything new on the app

^People refreshing the web page every second looking for the reservation system overloaded the server

And this one: Guests who no-show for two reservations without contacting us to cancel them are subject to penalty and blockout periods.

This poor kid looks sick "Son, I know you wanna hurl but it was the only day we could get a reservation. I'll just walk you around Weekend at Bernie style." and how did people get into that line with bags

^hmmm that looks just like Mystic Timbers queue I would hope in the segments where they can have a whole queue lane open in between for the left and right separation that they will do that.

Exactly! Instead of celebrating the park can open, people are now criticizing that the park doesn't do enough to market itself. Let's see if people feel that way once the reservation system opens up and they cannot get a reservation because they were not fast enough and it "sold out"! KI will have plenty of demand for attendance and will probably hit whatever cap they are required to work at almost daily. Proof that they have the product people want and why they market the way they do.

And not everything on this forum is about YOU - I was not referencing you - where did I say I was referencing you? I was simply pointing out how much CF spends in advertising since people seem to think they don't spend money marketing the park. But since you brought it up, do you know for a fact that CF doesn't spend any money on social media platforms to improve their reach or is that just a high school kid's experience based on your own free personal social media accounts? Take some of the advice @Oldschool75offered you earlier...

Cedar Fair Advertising expenses totaled $67.9 million in 2019...

I guess single riders do not need to worry about being paired with someone next to them this season.

Possibly Eiffel Tower - kinda hard to social distance in the elevator LOL. I think any indoor show is gone. We know Grand Carnivale is gone (despite them still offering that as a selling point to purchase a Gold Pass in 2020 LOL). Festhaus could be closed unless they take out a lot of tables or put up shower curtains or plexiglass. And we may see other rides closed simply because they cannot find staff. Would the indoor rides be closed?

But their website still says a season pass gets you unlimited visits....

The link to the calendar above still shows they are closed LOL. But it does show Grand Carnival for 2020 as a reason to buy a Gold Pass... It also shows unlimited visits - can't wait to see if that is true...

^wrong park...should be Snoopy (unless you time machine back to the disco era lol)

Things can change, but according to this article (and the media is wrong sometimes), masks will be required both for patrons and employees and both Cedar Fair parks will open with a reduced number of guests. Another article posted a few pages back in this thread indicated that attendance would be capped initially at 20%, so that would be an attendance of roughly 13,000 to 15,000 based on park capacity that employees have posted elsewhere in this thread. According to posts on this thread, typical weekday is 23,000-29,000 guests, so this reduced capacity of 13,000-15,000 guests would be approaching half of say a typical Wednesday crowd. https://sanduskyregister.com/news/249128/dewine-husted-impressed-by-cedar-points-reopening-plan/

What we don't know is are these areas that Universal designated as areas you are allowed to remove the mask and this person is not reporting that part as that doesn't fit their narrative? If I stood right next to this sign and took a picture, I could make the same claim, but would be wrong... Maybe they are, maybe they aren't, just asking the question... Next we will see signs go up that drinks must remain in designated areas

Because the lawsuit said open immediately LOL and June 19th isn't immediately - even though they couldn't open immediately if they wanted to...and the lawsuit asked that the Health Department never be allowed to close them down again EVER for ANYTHING...

And of course my mask You can find me stayin' alive and groovin to the hottest 70s tunes at the all new musical review at the FestHaus - Follow the call of the Disco Ball - starting in just 15 minutes

And on a hot day, someone drives 30 minutes or more to the park in a car without working AC, has to park far away, is out of shape, and has a temporary elevated temperature hoofing it to the entrance gate since there are no trams will not make for a good scene either...

I agree! What a sad society commentary when someone is smoking in line and anyone (whether it be another guest, employee, or security) kindly reminds/informs them there is no smoking in line and they go off and say they will smoke wherever they please. I have seen altercations over this. No joke - last year at CP a dude was smoking a cigarette in the queue line at Magnum and was next to get on the ride and was literally blowing his smoke into the employee's face standing there and NOT A THING was said to the guest...I pointed it out to a super and they shrugged their shoulders. It comes down to training. And training probably is more safety oriented than park policy oriented. And management willing to stand behind and empower and reward employees for doing their job. Maybe it is their job to enforce it or maybe it is their job to inform the guest and call security for non-compliance, but most people do not like confrontation, especially a young teenager wanting to work in rides. Again there are exceptions and we have ride-ops on this forum that do a great job, but I have witnessed smoking in station and when reported to a ride op, they simply shrug their shoulders. I have also seen ride-ops from this forum going above and beyond and be walking to/from break and stop a guest to inform them about the smoking policy. Or even better, they are a guest in the park and bring it to the guests attention! But I have also seen security walk right past someone smoking and it was obvious they were smoking and do nothing or a guest points it out to them and nothing...enforcement is inconsistent at best. Security at KI can or will only do so much. Rarely have I seen them actually throw someone out of the park. If Diamondback calls for security because someone had their phone out, it usually follows the route of the security person tells them of the policy and they go about the rest of their day. If the guest gets unruly, that is when they may get tossed. Again always exceptions and your experience may vary, but that has been mine...

It is sad that people refuse to follow whatever established rules they agreed to follow by entering the park that puts employees in this situation to have to enforce the rules! If people think the rules don't apply to them, then build their own park and make their own rules

This should be an interesting hearing on Monday.... https://www.fox19.com/2020/06/06/hearing-monday-ohio-water-parks-lawsuit-reopen/

Things can change, but according to this article, masks will be required both for patrons and employees and both Cedar Fair parks will open with a reduced number of guests. Another article posted a few pages back in this thread indicated that attendance would be capped initially at 20%, so that would be an attendance of roughly 13,000 to 15,000. According to posts on this thread, typical weekday is 23,000-29,000 guests, so this reduced capacity of 13,000-15,000 guests would be approaching half of say a typical Wednesday crowd. https://sanduskyregister.com/news/249128/dewine-husted-impressed-by-cedar-points-reopening-plan/

Get ready for the complaints to pour in from people that bought the season long FL if they are not available this year (although they were extended into next year to keep them "whole") I can already see people saying they will not go to the park if their FL pass isn't available... Parks have been put into an almost impossible situation this year - no matter what they do, a good chunk of their base is going to be ticked with whatever requirements the park develops to open. We have people saying the will not go if they do not make masks a requirement, and others are saying they will not go if they make masks a requirement, as well as those that have implied they plan to do whatever they want once inside the park as they will not enforce whatever policy they have, and those that will not attend because they do not believe the park will enforce their own rules... At the end of the day, there will still be a big enough demand from whichever group that plans to visit the park to make it worth the parks investment to open...