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which ironically is the same speed as the biggest fastest tallest longest meanest roller coaster ever to strike Kings Island

What if the majority vote to close the border to Indiana - you good with that

Good to see Universal got off to a good start

What if he posted a link to the article, how do you block out his name then? Blocking out a name of a personal text or DM screenshot is one thing, a name in the comments section to a publicly posted article is a different animal, especially since he willingly posted it.

Someone should recognize any time they post an emotionally charged comment, it may come back to bite them - if they said it, they are fair game. Apparently even if it was 20 years ago, just ask Jimmy Fallon. I am sure her parents are real proud of her: https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/marquette-university-rescinds-recruits-admission-scholarship-over-george-floyd-snapchat-post#:~:text=MILWAUKEE — Marquette University has decided,subsequent protests around the country.

Well they better add to the lawsuit that they can run the rides without inspections, because DeWine still controls that aspect and the inspectors are furloughed...this could be a win the battle, lose the war situation for Cedar Fair long term...

I think DeWine will veto this bill if it reaches his desk. He has said time and time again he will veto any bill that tries to take declaring a health emergency out of the Governor's hands. He believes there is over 100 years of court precedence and law favoring that action. As he pointed out when the House was trying to limit Dr. Actons abilities, he mentioned that by virtue that bill also would give any Ohioan the legal right, or standing, to sue over an order without having to prove they’ve been irreparably harmed. DeWine said that could put courts in control over orders and he said it could also work the other way – that people could sue over orders to reopen if they don’t like them and want places to remain closed. Then you have the courts hearing two cases - one arguing to open and another arguing not to re-open. Nobody wins in that situation (except the lawyers)... I doubt he would sign this bill as it would then potentially mean that IF we get a second spike and he declares another Health Order, that this bill would essentially take precedence over that order. As an attorney he will be very cautious about allowing a bill get passed that would set a precedence with unintended consequences... Keep in mind though, that if for some reason he were to sign the bill, per Ohio Law the bill would go into effect in 90 days...wouldn't you rather him wait a week or two and announce they can open July 1st...than wait 90 days after that bill is signed (this bill did add a provision to waive that 90-day requirement)?

I think it is more for show and to apply pressure than to actually take it to trial. Sometimes when you ask for TOO MUCH you have tipped your hand that it is more to make a point. The lawsuit asks a judge to reopen amusement parks and water parks immediately and to prevent Acton from closing them again in the future. It would be hard pressed for a court to rule against forbidding the state from the ability to shut down an operation for anything from an e. coli outbreak or some other serious health issue. So if they broke EVERY restaurant health code they could not be shut down under this. Then that would trickle down to every restaurant never being able to be shut down for serious health code violations as a precedence would be set. Some of their arguments are based on eminent domain issues like Norwood purchasing all the homes around Rookwood Pavilion, Mariemont Appartments HOA, etc. and the rights of property owners to do as they wish on their property. I would be surprised if it actually makes it to trial.

I brought that up and reasons why, etc. all the way back on page 37 LOL. I had projected that if they couldn't open by 4th of July weekend, they wouldn't open after that date if they were allowed to based on financial reasons. Many questioned that thought at the time and many believed they would open up for a week if they could and "sell merch" to make money.... I guess we will find out soon how short of a season it can be and they still believe they can make money and justify opening...

Next election for Ohio Governor is 2022. Any individual can personally contribute up to $2,800 per year to a candidate. No one yet announced running against him.

He said for most it would be good news...meaning for some it will not be.

By virtue of not providing a re-open date, that is the announcement. I am sure if it were an in-person press conference he would have said that his announcement for amusement parks is they are not given the green light yet. His next conference should be interesting...

The news just broke LOL - give the museums and zoo some time to put out a release LOL.

I guess Cedar Fair reps will not be asked to any future Governor Task Force or get any favors now for supporting a bill that undermined the Governor's authority...

No doubt DeWine is concerned about the economic situation of Ohio, but he is also concerned about the health of the individuals of the state as well. As he pointed out when the House was trying to limit Dr. Actons abilities, he mentioned that by virtue that bill also would give any Ohioan the legal right, or standing, to sue over an order without having to prove they’ve been irreparably harmed. DeWine said that could put courts in control over orders and he said it could also work the other way – that people could sue over orders to reopen if they don’t like them and want places to remain closed. Then you have the courts hearing two cases - one arguing to open and another arguing not to re-open. Nobody wins in that situation (except the lawyers)... I doubt he would sign this bill as it would then potentially mean that IF we get a second spike and he declares another Health Order, that this bill would essentially take precedence over that order. As an attorney he will be very cautious about allowing a bill get passed that would set a precedence with unintended consequences...

Based on that vote today, I wouldn't expect an update today now LOL. That potential HB vote may have been another reason he cancelled the presser today... I do not see DeWine approving this if it makes it to his desk. When the house talked about stripping the medical director with the authority to pass these orders, DeWine adamantly announced he would veto it if it hit his desk. I think he will look at this as the same type of thing as it would be essentially striking him from his ability to pass these orders...

I guess no tennis players taking illegal on-ride videos this year Proposal could move Western & Southern Open tennis from Mason to New York, per report: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/tennis/2020/06/02/western-southern-open-cincinnati-could-move-new-york-per-report/3123658001/

With the mobile app of course: The mobile app’s mapping and wayfinding modules, which already allow guests to easily find things like restrooms and phone charging stations, are being leveraged to monitor potential overcrowding in various areas of the park throughout the day; this will help determine where to deploy crowd control measures and enable appropriate social distancing. These modules will also direct guests to the closest hand sanitizing stations. Makes you wonder if they will make it a requirement to have the app up and running and do you need a smartphone while in the park? To monitor overcrowding based on location in the app is only viable if everyone is using it...

One could make argument for how a museum or zoo could open first because it would be a lot easier to control crowds with a reservation system and a defined path for visitors to follow to see the exhibits and attractions, which is the way traffic flow in a lot of those attractions go anyway. An amusement park like KI would be a little harder to implement - most will want to go to Orion, and developing a defined path of rides to ride in a particular order would be difficult to manage. What if you don't want to ride some of the rides on the defined path LOL.

They have to deal with two different states and their respective state re-open plan.

DeWine said in two days will be an announcement for museums, zoos, etc. He said for most of the attractions, it will be good news. So one could take away from that that some may not be given a date to re-open?

Ohio Governor Office Press Conference Update: Schools are to start in person in the fall, barring any unforeseen circumstance. All medical procedures, including those with overnight stay, are now allowed to begin. Talked about the stuff happening around the Country that the Mod's suggested not be discussed on KIC. That has been the bulk of the press conference. Still waiting for theme parks - will edit and update if he says anything, or will create a new post if too many posts show up after this one. Edit: DeWine said in two days will be an announcement for museums, zoos, etc. He said for most of the attractions, it will be good news. So one could take away from that that some may not be given a date to re-open?

I think that part of the problem is that KI is seen as a season pass park when compared to other parks it competes against and as such I think a lot of the atmosphere is not noticeably appreciated by the guests that attend, yet at the same time it not being there subconsciously negatively impacts guests opinion of the park. I think back to the early Paramount days and the Star Trek and other characters walking around and you wouldn't see them get the same attention as characters at other parks. Not many guests would stop or even form a line to get their picture with them. Did that influence management decision at the time to scale back the amount of characters roaming Kings Island? Did it have a trickle down effect into the other atmosphere/experience type settings like what you mentioned is missing? Take a look at the current Lunch with the Peanuts Gang at KI versus Carowinds - at the end they do like 3 songs for a meet and greet with the characters and at Carowinds the line is long and sometimes not everyone gets their picture because the three songs are over, yet at KI the characters are for the most part ignored and just stand there most of the time (sometimes they get a crowd for meet and greet but not as consistent as other parks). Or the relative lack of lines within the park when the characters are out. I also recognize the difference in intellectual property rights that dictates what characters are at what parks...but that is a whole different discussion. But the characters seem to get more love at other CF parks than at KI. Other than enthusiasts, most of the folks I talk to see Back Lot, Crypt, Drop Tower, Invertigo, Bat, etc. as basically the same ride as when Paramount had the park, it is just a new name (can you believe that!). In other words, the theming was lost/not appreciated by them. Does that mentality drive decisions at KI? I loved the whole Top Gun experience and felt a let down when it became Flight Deck and wonder what they would do to the theming of that ride with a the upcoming sequel if it were still Top Gun...(and I realize the IP costs associated with keeping it the Top Gun name and why it was changed) Think about the Banshee gift shop being eliminated - the merchandise offerings helped with the overall atmosphere of the park even if it didn't make any money. Now a first time guests walks through and is like what is this... So one has to wonder does the fact that KI being a season pass park impact what attention they put into the little things? Does/did KI suffer from the "we are a season pass park and people will attend regardless" mentality. Even if exit surveys say people don't care about theming, etc., the lack of it does leave an impression as well, whether the guest realizes it or not...so I think it is good we are seeing some progress towards those little things in recent years.

Well that certainly throws another wrinkle into the fold! So either the July 1 date will get extended to Aug 1 or the inspectors will be brought back earlier. But for a July 1 opening of these types of attractions, they would have to bring back the inspectors in June. I would lean towards inspectors coming back early unless DeWine doesn't give a date this week when these types of attractions can open. Anything is possible, but I don't know from an PR optics standpoint and liability standpoint if KI would open if the rides are not inspected. Some here will argue that in KI's situation it is mainly paperwork inspections, but even if inspections for a KI are more paperwork in nature, why run that chance?

Hmm, so that means either they forgot to take fairs out of the revision or he misspoke about giving local fair boards the ability to determine for themselves if to hold a fair at any time of their choosing (are there any Ohio County Fairs held before July 1st) , and that may mean that we will not see KI be allowed to open until after July 1st. I do not see him revoking or revising her order downward at this point, but crazier things have happened. So the big question will be do they bring staff in for training once that date is given? If they wait until July 1st to bring in staff for training, at 3 weeks to train, that doesn't leave much of a summer season.