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I was talking to an enthusiast who swears he knows what PKI is up to for next year. I have several family members that work year-round at PKI, one who actually works with the construction of new attractions...Anyway, the family members AREN'T TALKING. They've always given me the heads up well in advance, but not this year.

To get to my point, what do you guys think of getting another Vekoma coaster at the park? Face/Off is obviously excellent, I've given up on seeing a B&M for a while, and Intamin has gotten silly lately with restraint issues.

I'm not trying to float a rumor here, I honestly have no clue what they're doing next year....and don't claim to. I just want to know how you feel about PKI considering Vekoma...if they are.

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I think it would be cool if PKI got a Vekoma Tilt Coaster. This is what it looks like. It's like a normal coaster except there's a flat section at the top...and when you get there the whole piece of track at the top tilts until it's vertical and then it goes straight down and through the rest of the course. I think it would be awesome...and it would be the first in the US. Could this possibly be the Addams Family Coaster? I mean it could be Uncle Fester's invention like the survey said...

Here's where you can see details of it.

EDIT: Here's some more really good pics of it

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I have ridden Deja Ve at SFGA, its a really fun ride, but not very reliable, which is a problem ina park tha is busy. I know Face/Off has some problems everynow and then, ever ride does. But DeJa Ve is horrible, my cousins live in Chicago and go pretty close to every weekend to SFGA with their friends and stuff and they have only been on it six times out of the last two years. Pretty bad to me.....

I don't know whether it is maintance, the design or just pure bad luck but something is wrong nothing is being done about.

I would like to see a Verkoma go in but i sure would hope it is a great and reliable design and well maintained.

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I've ridden a few Vekomas, mediocre at best. The ones I haven't rode are mediocre according to some peoples opinion. Still others are not reliable...Deja Vu models at various Six Flags parks being the major culprit.

There are 3 companies in the industry who are designing sure winners. GCI, B&M, and Intamin. GCI builds woodies (the last thing PKI needs), B&M is still good, but there are a lot of them around. They should go with Intamin. Forget about the restraint thing in Mass. The cause was determined to be operator error, although Mass govt felt that someone needed to be the scapegoat. The TBar is a great restraint... used on MF and TTD at Cedar Point. Intamin is the whip right now as far as design and engineering, and PKI should take advantage of that.

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Although Mass had the most recent Intamin fatality, there have been more. Two people were thrown from Intamin water rides. One was in California, and one last month in Great Britain.

Also, Superman at Darien Lake (NY) tossed a rider in its first season.

A rider at PGA submarined from a restraint on their Drop Zone stunt tower, in 1999.

As far as Intamin accomodating people with restraints....I personally don't think there is a more problematic company for restraint problems. At Cedar Point, they just instituted a new rule with their seatbelts. (MF especially) 20-60% of patrons now cannot ride. I have a 36" waist, and most likely I will be prohibited from riding.

B&M has addressed this issue. Americans tend to be larger than their European counterparts. (not just fatter) B&M has introduced "beefier" seats, and even includes special seats for those with unusual body proportions. Intamin really doesn't....yet.

I love the coasters that Intamin has introduced in the past few years, but they REALLY have to work on more accommodating, and safer, restraints.

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While on the subject of Intamin, they were in part respinsible for the death on Flight Commander at PKI in 1991. The result of the investigation was that they had improperly designed the restraint to allow a single rides to slip under the two person restraint.

No, they are not using FoF as a junkyard. King Cobra was/is still for sale. I`m sure that they are keeping the cars in FoF because if they find a buyer for the ride, they want the trains to be protected from the elements. FoF offers a good place to store them as most of the gp won`t even notice they are there. I`ve tried looking for them when I was on FoF, but have never actually spotted them.

As far as Vekoma, I don`t think PKI should add another one. I thouroughly enjoy Face Off which is very reliable and offers some of the most intense G-forces of any ride at PKI, with the exception of maybe the final flip on TR:TR. Reptar is a little bumpy. My experience on Serial Thriller and X-Flight wasn`t exactly smooth, although I did enjoy my rides on X-Flight. I would much rather have a smooth ride on an Intamin or B&M coaster than a Vekoma.

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Yet she still fell out cause her body went limp. Now you can't make that same defense if someone were to say... blackout, have a seizure or anything else that would cause them to loose control of their body and become limp. You have to think of anything that can go wrong and make a safety precaution so that it can not happen.

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No Vekoma please. Although Face/Off and Rugrats are the only two I've been on, I've heard that the SLC's are very rough. Have you ever noticed that there are no Vekomas at Cedar Point? Not one. This says something about what CP thinks of Vekoma. I don't know...maybe they are inexpensive? Relatively speaking that is.

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On Flight Commander, I believe the intoxicated was helped from her capsule by the lack of a simple seat divider. An over the shoulder restraint is really pretty useless if the lower body is free to move pretty much anywhere.

CoasterRZ was correct, the Intamin restraint was very much to blame for her demise. No matter how limp she was, the restraint system should have been designed better.

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I would love to see an Intamin hyper at PKI for 2 reasons...

1) They are simply amazing rides

2) They are smooth as a baby's bottom

But the last thing PKI needs is someone to fall out. I'm all for a Vekoma Tilt Coaster IF and only if it has no loops. PKI needs a non looping steel to round off their coaster collection.

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To get to my point, what do you guys think of getting another Vekoma coaster at the park? Face/Off is obviously excellent, I've given up on seeing a B&M for a while, and Intamin has gotten silly lately with restraint issues.

What makes Face/Off excellent? Isn't it a clone of ride that has been built in numerous parks? Excellence in my mind is not just how a ride fits, but also how truly original it is and one-of-a-kind.

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/\ well there's only like 3 or 4 other clones of face/off itself. actually they all were cloned from Invertigo (thus being why the ride type is called Invertigo) at PGA. face/off was the second Invertigo ride built. there's TONS of "boomerang" coasters out there but thsoe are above the track which is totally different IMO.

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While they may have gone bankrupt, they are still building... under new ownership. They are basically no longer doing the off the shelf cookie cutter rides which they pre-manufactured and kept in storage, hence the roughness.

1)WDW is building the vekoma mine train "Expedition Everest" set to open in 2006?

2)Toverland in the Netherlands is building the new "Booster Bike" which is a new concept from Vekoma, set to open this year

3)Bobbejaanland in Belgum is opened a Vekoma Family coaster this year called "Okidoki"

4)Magic Springs in Arkansas is built a SLC this year, yeah a cookie cutter

5)Cypress Gardens in Florida is building a Family Suspended much like Runaway Reptar, as well as building a junior coaster by vekoma

6)The list goes on with already started projects for 2005 and 2006 in other locations.

The company is not gone.

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