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17 hours ago, homestar92 said:

One of the parks in this story has been controlled by Six Flags all that time. The other by KECO/Paramount/Cedar Fair. Do you know which is which?

Silly homestar, don't you know that now is the time for hyperbole and continually judging the entire legacy of the former Six Flags Entertainment Corporation based on the CEO from the late 90's and early 2000's? You're not supposed to say NICE things! Quick, crack a Six Flags over Sandusky joke to right your wrongs!

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16 hours ago, Benjamin22 said:

I swear if they ditch the Fastlane name for flash pass I’ll be ****ed

If the product allows you to do the same thing, what difference does it make if it's called Fast Lane, The Flash Pass, or Daffy Duck's Quick Access Pass? 

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3 minutes ago, DonHelbig said:

If the product allows you to do the same thing, what difference does it make if it's called Fast Lane, The Flash Pass, or Daffy Duck's Quick Access Pass? 

People are going to call it the wrong name no matter if they keep it or change it,.

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1 hour ago, DonHelbig said:

If the product allows you to do the same thing, what difference does it make if it's called Fast Lane, The Flash Pass, or Daffy Duck's Quick Access Pass? 

Many would not like it if they changed The Beast to Goliath or The Racer to The Bosses.  They'd still do the same thing, though.

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43 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said:

Many would not like it if they changed The Beast to Goliath or The Racer to The Bosses.  They'd still do the same thing, though.

Same reason it is always Top Gun and Face-Off to some..

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31 minutes ago, disco2000 said:

Same reason it is always Top Gun and Face-Off to some..

What's funny to me is that people still cling to The Italian Job Stunt Track, when it had that name for two years. It's been BLSC for 15. But it will always be The Junkyard Coaster to me! :)

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3 hours ago, DonHelbig said:

If the product allows you to do the same thing, what difference does it make if it's called Fast Lane, The Flash Pass, or Daffy Duck's Quick Access Pass? 

I'm all for that last one... where do I sign that petition?

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8 hours ago, TombRaiderFTW said:

Silly homestar, don't you know that now is the time for hyperbole and continually judging the entire legacy of the former Six Flags Entertainment Corporation based on the CEO from the late 90's and early 2000's? You're not supposed to say NICE things! Quick, crack a Six Flags over Sandusky joke to right your wrongs!

I'd be willing to crack a Six Flags over Coney Mall joke, but that's been gone for about 10 years now.

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^I don't buy that.  I drove that distance last summer doing my trip and SFA definitely has the DC and Baltimore markets to pull from comfortably.   DC and Baltimore to KD, HP and DP are a hike.  

I'm taking the patient approach to all this.  I'm nowhere close to the doom and gloom approach a lot of the KI fanbase is taking, especially knowing that CF higher ups are still mostly in control of things.   I'm choosing to be cautiously optimistic for now.  

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1 hour ago, silver2005 said:

^I don't buy that.  I drove that distance last summer doing my trip and SFA definitely has the DC and Baltimore markets to pull from comfortably.   DC and Baltimore to KD, HP and DP are a hike.  

I'm taking the patient approach to all this.  I'm nowhere close to the doom and gloom approach a lot of the KI fanbase is taking, especially knowing that CF higher ups are still mostly in control of things.   I'm choosing to be cautiously optimistic for now.  

If you look at how most people view SFA compared to other parks, the reviews are not great. Not saying it needs to be axed but I’ve also heard that the land value is pretty high.

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^I take enthusiast talk with a grain of salt anymore.  I believe in the 'those who know don't tell and those who tell don't know' approach. A lot of enthusiasts are 20-somethings who aren't privy to the whole picture of things and cherry pick one or two things to try and predict something without taking in the wider picture.  

I'll believe it when I see it, but I'm not putting much value into predictions with the initial high emotions a lot of enthusiasts are having at this early moment in the merging process.   Heck, I don't even consider MIA or Great Escape on the chopping block yet either, it's too early to predict anything like that IMO. 

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3 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said:

It looks like the Six Flags App theme has been updated. It will be nice to have all the parks in one app in the future. 

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I like that all the Six Flags parks are in the same app. Just a better app overall than what the former Cedar Fair parks have. More engaging, better content, easier to navigate. 

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1 hour ago, DonHelbig said:

I like that all the Six Flags parks are in the same app. Just a better app overall than what the former Cedar Fair parks have. More engaging, better content, easier to navigate. 

Yeah, that just makes more sense. Though I did recently update the KI app and it does have some nice improvements at least.
  

On 7/2/2024 at 10:42 AM, FALLINLOVE09 said:

I think they should have a Cedar Fair Legacy Passport for the ones who don't have any desire to visit the Six Flags parks or just don't want to pay all that money. Same with Six Flags parks, there should be a Six Flags Legacy Passport that only works for the Six Flags parks. Nobody should obligated to get a Passport for ALL parks for a expensive price. 

I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. We don't know how the pricing will work. I'm sure it will go up at least a little but when you consider how cheap the All-Park Passport is, I don't think the pricing is based on the total number of parks but rather how many you are likely to visit in a year and how much you're willing to pay. The average passholder isn't travelling all over the country hitting other parks and the company knows that.

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On 7/2/2024 at 9:08 PM, SonofBaconator said:

I know the population density on the east coast is large but I have a hard time believing that Six Flags America will last in this new chain.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but why would anything change now that SFA is owned by the same parent company as any other park in the area? Assuming the parent company is operating their parks competently, they can either survive in the presence of other parks or not.

On 7/3/2024 at 3:18 PM, DoomPlague said:

I don't think the pricing is based on the total number of parks but rather how many you are likely to visit in a year and how much you're willing to pay. The average passholder isn't travelling all over the country hitting other parks and the company knows that.

Agreed. They can keep the CF Passport pricing and include all SF parks, and attendance won't meaningfully change. The number of people going to multiple parks in one season is relatively tiny.

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On 6/30/2024 at 10:16 PM, CoastersRZ said:

If I had to guess, I would think that they would go this route.  Keep the branding, and just add a tagline "A Six Flags park".  Gets the point across that it is part of the Six Flags company, but no need to brand it as Six Flags.

 

Like Beatrice snatched products from Wesson Oil to Samsonite Luggage?

 

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As a marketing dude, I’m curious to see what they do (if anything) as far rebranding efforts. I’m not a huge fan of the current  CF branding and I could take or leave Six Flags as a whole. But this could be a fun opportunity for a logo/branding refresh. Specifically while keeping each park’s individuality highlighted a bit. No name changes, though. Six Flags Ohio has a now troubled history and wouldn’t want to see KI change too much. But I can see it now…

 

”Six Flags Over It” 

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I think we'll see a hint of their direction going forward when announcement season arrives and 2025 passes go on sale.   I'm watching the original Six Flags parks with a lot of interest, I think it's going to be an opposite situation of what some enthusiasts believe- rather than the Six Flags parks dragging down the former CF parks, the CF style will uplift the Six Flags parks.   How they handle the parks that are in close proximity to each other (looking at you SoCal and Philly) will be interesting to see play out as well.    

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9 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said:

I would assume KIC would fall under this as there is video content produced from time to time and the basis of the discussions?

How many of these has this site "violated" recently....

Is this new "policy" retroactive or moving forward....

Will the TOS be updated to reflect these changes....

Does this policy apply to FB sites....

What is the "enforcement" - is it simply not invited to media events and the like or do they ban folks that violate it as if it is a park policy?

So many questions....

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10 minutes ago, disco2000 said:

I would assume KIC would fall under this as there is video content produced from time to time and the basis of the discussions?

How many of these has this site "violated" recently....

Is this new "policy" retroactive or moving forward....

Will the TOS be updated to reflect these changes....

Does this policy apply to FB sites....

So many questions....

So are you saying that "content creators" can come to KIC to post publicly available documents and give their opinions, good and bad? Would this be a loophole for them, or would kic face the wrath of the parks? :)

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