johnjniehaus Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 1 hour ago, RedSummit20 said: There is more to Winterfest than just rides keep that in mind, its not about the rides, its about the experience! I enjoy all of winterfest and usually end up going more times than I go to haunt. However, I think the rides are a big factor. If I want to look at Christmas lights, the Cincinnati zoo is much closer to where I live but they don't have any rollercoasters or as many shows. I was curious about the temps seeing as I'm really excited about riding The Racer with all the Christmas lights along Coney Mall and was curious if anyone knew at what point they start closing rides because it's just too cold to run them? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2000 Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 47 minutes ago, RedSummit20 said: lol thats just a poll. That proves nothing. Ask @DonHelbig if rides really matter. It "adds" to the experience Winterfest is about the shows, lights and the atmosphere. Rides are a good addition! I bet if rides didn't matter and they ran nothing, Winterfest would disappear. There is a reason they are adding rides to the lineup.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintodd Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 2 hours ago, disco2000 said: I bet if rides didn't matter and they ran nothing, Winterfest would disappear. There is a reason they are adding rides to the lineup.... I have to point out that I believe the first 2 itterations of Winterfest had no coasters and was still so popular that people wanted it back. I believe most people go for the atmoshpere. Then comes the food with the meal plans. It will be cold this weekend, but I'm pretty sure it will be crowded. People gotta eat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintodd Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 2 hours ago, johnjniehaus said: I enjoy all of winterfest and usually end up going more times than I go to haunt. However, I think the rides are a big factor. If I want to look at Christmas lights, the Cincinnati zoo is much closer to where I live but they don't have any rollercoasters or as many shows. I was curious about the temps seeing as I'm really excited about riding The Racer with all the Christmas lights along Coney Mall and was curious if anyone knew at what point they start closing rides because it's just too cold to run them? If memory serves me correctly Flight of Cheer is fine but in the past it had to be above freezing when they started running Mystic Timbers. It could go below (29 - 26) after it started but the if the temperature was below 32 at park open, it would not run. I would believe the same would be true for The Racer and soap box racers, but haven't heard anything yet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2000 Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 4 minutes ago, robintodd said: I have to point out that I believe the first 2 itterations of Winterfest had no coasters and was still so popular that people wanted it back. I believe most people go for the atmoshpere. Then comes the food with the meal plans. It will be cold this weekend, but I'm pretty sure it will be crowded. People gotta eat Could the first 2 iterations have lasted longer had there been more rides.... My understanding is the 1st iteration attendance dropped every year to the point it wasn't worth doing. We all know why the 2nd iteration happened... I totally get the seasonal atmosphere and all that jazz, but people can get that from other places as well. Sure people would still want the event and a certain percentage would show up regardless (meal and drink plans LOL), but if next year they announced no rides, watch what happens to attendance. People think rides with KI. If rides were not important, they wouldn't be adding rides to the event. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Just based off personal experience visiting two competing parks that are only an hour away from each other. The park with the most rides / coasters running had a higher attendance. Here is a trip report from visiting both KD’s Winterfest and BGW’s Christmas Town: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion742 Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 1 hour ago, robintodd said: If memory serves me correctly Flight of Cheer is fine but in the past it had to be above freezing when they started running Mystic Timbers. It could go below (29 - 26) after it started but the if the temperature was below 32 at park open, it would not run. I would believe the same would be true for The Racer and soap box racers, but haven't heard anything yet. Big Bear Mountain and Dragonflier at Dollywood both have 36 degree operating temperatures so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the same for Snoopy’s Soap Box Racers. I also believe it’s on the park for deciding what temperature to run it in because I know Energylandia runs their family boomerang in negative temperatures and snow. The park was also testing Racer in the snow last week so maybe they will run it in colder temperatures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion-XL200 Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 On 11/24/2024 at 11:05 PM, Timchat2 said: We just saw it last night at Canada's Wonderland. It's pleasant but I'm not sure how the more obscure Christmas song choices will play for most guests. Knott's Merry Farm is using the same Tree Lighting Ceremony as well. They seem to generally go their own route with holiday entertainment so this might be a chain-wise directive. Holiday in the Park at Six Flags Over Texas looks to be the first major integration of Cedar Fair live entertainment into a legacy Six Flags park with Holly Jolly Trolley, Tree Lighting Ceremony, MistleTones, Polar Party and Midway Merriment characters all debuting this season. Holly Jolly Trolley without a trolley...that's so odd. Tree Lighting Ceremony.... Why not use the Oil Derrick for the tree? Is it me or is it weird that they use "Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog," as a Christmas song because they tie "Joy To The World" into it? (KI does this as well) Compared to KI and Carowinds (the two events I've been to) this seems to be the most unenthusiastic event that I've seen. Also, I still hate that Carowinds does this: Such an odd look...what Christmas tree has a flared top vs a flared bottom? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 44 minutes ago, Orion-XL200 said: Holly Jolly Trolley without a trolley...that's so odd. Tree Lighting Ceremony.... Why not use the Oil Derrick for the tree? Is it me or is it weird that they use "Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog," as a Christmas song because they tie "Joy To The World" into it? (KI does this as well) Compared to KI and Carowinds (the two events I've been to) this seems to be the most unenthusiastic event that I've seen. Also, I still hate that Carowinds does this: Such an odd look...what Christmas tree has a flared top vs a flared bottom? I've always enjoyed the Jeremiah integration. The same could be said that "raindrops on roses" or "what a wonderful world" as Christmas songs , but they work as well. I would draw the line, though, if they added a themed section to Natakomi plaza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2000 Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 10 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said: I've always enjoyed the Jeremiah integration. The same could be said that "raindrops on roses" or "what a wonderful world" as Christmas songs , but they work as well. I would draw the line, though, if they added a themed section to Natakomi plaza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super7 Posted November 29 Author Share Posted November 29 On 11/27/2024 at 4:06 PM, Tr0y said: Just based off personal experience visiting two competing parks that are only an hour away from each other. The park with the most rides / coasters running had a higher attendance. Here is a trip report from visiting both KD’s Winterfest and BGW’s Christmas Town: Christmastown offers full production shows where KD has the typical high school production Winterfest shows. Christmastown also typically offers longer operating hours. Plus it has full family experiences like the train. Those factor into attendance at Christmastown as well. The only thing superior at KD Winterfest is the lights. Even in the regular season, KD only has attractions for thrill riders and little kids. BGW is a better rounded park that appeals to more people. That being said, the rides are absolutely necessary at Winterfest given that Six Flags/Cedar Fair only installs attractions for thrill riders and little kiddies. Those are the only two markets of customers that they attempt to attract on a regular basis. They have yo have rides to attract to them at Winterfest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaestroJr Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Anybody go tonight to give an update on what rides on running ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad_1138 Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 1 hour ago, MaestroJr said: Anybody go tonight to give an update on what rides on running ? Racer, Soap Box Racers, Sol Spin, and Space Buggies are closed. All other rides are open. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaestroJr Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 17 hours ago, chad_1138 said: Racer, Soap Box Racers, and Space Buggies are closed. All other rides are open. Thanks very much, I plan on going tomorrow and I wanted to game plan So we are taking two cars and I was curious in terms of parking does anyone know if I can screenshot my pass and get two people in for parking or will it reject the second car 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super7 Posted November 30 Author Share Posted November 30 Racer is racing on Sat Nov 30 with 1 train on each side. It’s currently 31 degrees Soap Box is running too 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenthodge Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 5 hours ago, super7 said: Racer is racing on Sat Nov 30 with 1 train on each side. It’s currently 31 degrees Soap Box is running too Yep-it was chilly but fun. Raced my kid (lost) 2x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 On 11/27/2024 at 3:54 PM, disco2000 said: Could the first 2 iterations have lasted longer had there been more rides.... My understanding is the 1st iteration attendance dropped every year to the point it wasn't worth doing. We all know why the 2nd iteration happened... I totally get the seasonal atmosphere and all that jazz, but people can get that from other places as well. Sure people would still want the event and a certain percentage would show up regardless (meal and drink plans LOL), but if next year they announced no rides, watch what happens to attendance. People think rides with KI. If rides were not important, they wouldn't be adding rides to the event. You are 100% correct. While KK's event certainly affects things, the Zoo, Newport Aquarium, etc now have very popular Christmas events. You know what they don't have? Rides like Kings Island. That's the ace they'll have have up their sleeve when faced with competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintodd Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 10 hours ago, BoddaH1994 said: You are 100% correct. While KK's event certainly affects things, the Zoo, Newport Aquarium, etc now have very popular Christmas events. You know what they don't have? Rides like Kings Island. That's the ace they'll have have up their sleeve when faced with competition. And the Meatloaf Burger....don't forget the Meatloaf Burger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 51 minutes ago, robintodd said: And the Meatloaf Burger....don't forget the Meatloaf Burger *Meatloaf Burger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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