Losantiville Mining Co. Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 A survey has been sent out by Cedar Point gauging interest about potential changes to the Fast Lane priority access system. If I understood correctly it would change the Fast Lane and Fast Lane Plus systems in the following ways: Fast Lane (standard) was Unlimited entries to most FL lines would be One entry to any FL line Fast Lane Plus Unlimited entries to any FL line (no real change here) This would cut down on the amount of people who "abuse" the Fast Lane system by lapping rides and forcing standby line guests to wait longer. I'd be all for this if it is implemented correctly. I didn't receive this survey and only heard about it from today's Beachcliff Studios, but it seems to be real. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion-XL200 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 I wouldn't call it abuse since it's been allowed...there's not been any thing that says "you must visit a separate attraction for each use." I have always had FLP so that change wouldn't do anything to me. I pay the premium to be able to lap my favorite rides. Sure I pay to ride the other rides too, but I'd rather spend time at my favorites for a bit before moving on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losantiville Mining Co. Posted November 11 Author Share Posted November 11 I don't personally see it as abuse, that's just the word I see associated most with it. It's like how people claim passholders "abuse" the dining plan while Six Flags continues to offer it. I think this would be a good change, but I don't know how many people would actually settle for the [glorified] Single-Use FL bundle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion-XL200 Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 Between the two, I wouldn't utilize the lower tier. When FL first came out, it was the only option for a little bit and then the + version came out, I never looked back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBEW_Sparky Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 This is why I continue to hold off and am still over 70% against getting a pass again, because ANY limits to the amount of times I can ride a ride with FL+ will kill any desire whatsoever for me to have one again. I know, I know they arent doing anything to FL+ YET, but I think we also all remember 11 and midnight closes and didnt think those would ever go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI Guy Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 I've been about the biggest critic of Fast Lane there is on these forums. I am curious though why people buy it. I understand the thought process for buying Fast Lane for a special, single trip if due to scheduling someone has to go to Kings Island on a very busy day and something else can't be arranged. I do wonder what the appeal of the season long Fast Lane is. Is it primarily...? 1) The freedom to go on very crowded days and still get to ride the rides you want to? 2) The ability to re-ride over and over on not busy days. 3) Some kind of flex/clout thing that makes someone feel special. Don't dismiss this; there are people like that. For me there is almost no appeal since I generally go to Kings Island as much as I want and ride as much as I want. I don't have much of a desire to ride anything more than once or twice. Afterall, it is Kings Island, and I've been there many, many times just as most passholders have. The pass is just access for something fun to do with friends. I can understand it from the standpoint of someone who is fairly rich and just wants to have the best experience whenever they can, but I don't believe that is the majority of season long Fast Lane. Fast Lane would just shorten my day, and I would "get through" all the rides more quickly. The waiting in line is just part of the time spent at KI with my friends and family. For those of you who have season long Fast Lane—what is the appeal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 1 hour ago, KI Guy said: I've been about the biggest critic of Fast Lane there is on these forums. I am curious though why people buy it. I understand the thought process for buying Fast Lane for a special, single trip if due to scheduling someone has to go to Kings Island on a very busy day and something else can't be arranged. I do wonder what the appeal of the season long Fast Lane is. Is it primarily...? 1) The freedom to go on very crowded days and still get to ride the rides you want to? 2) The ability to re-ride over and over on not busy days. 3) Some kind of flex/clout thing that makes someone feel special. Don't dismiss this; there are people like that. For me there is almost no appeal since I generally go to Kings Island as much as I want and ride as much as I want. I don't have much of a desire to ride anything more than once or twice. Afterall, it is Kings Island, and I've been there many, many times just as most passholders have. The pass is just access for something fun to do with friends. I can understand it from the standpoint of someone who is fairly rich and just wants to have the best experience whenever they can, but I don't believe that is the majority of season long Fast Lane. Fast Lane would just shorten my day, and I would "get through" all the rides more quickly. The waiting in line is just part of the time spent at KI with my friends and family. For those of you who have season long Fast Lane—what is the appeal? At this exact moment I have not bought the season long FL for my pass yet ( and am not sure quite yet if I am going to as I have a few other things I may need to focus on...but I have a few more months to see what happens before I decide ) But as someone who has had all season Fast Lane, I have bought it and may consider buying it again for a couple of reasons. For one, it makes my park trips less stressful. No matter what the crowds are, I know I will get to ride what I want and not be stuck in line. I hate waiting in long lines which leads to point 2) I genuinely cannot handle the long lines anymore. People are far too unpredictable and kids are so poorly behaved that it just causes far too much discomfort for me to want to stand and wait more than 10 minutes for a coaster I've ridden countless times. It comes down to comfort and safety for me and the ones I go with. Going to the parks is something I enjoy doing to relieve stress, not obtain more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losantiville Mining Co. Posted November 12 Author Share Posted November 12 Would any of you support adding a third FL tier that only allows one ride per attraction instead of changing the two that already exist? I'd rather have the changes as listed on the survey than adding even more complexity to the system. There could also be a functionality where the system is set up as the following: Single-Use Fast Lane One time priority access to one attraction. Fast Lane (standard) [Alternatively as a new FL Lite tier,] One time priority access to each Fast Lane attraction. Unlimited priority access to each Fast Lane attraction. Attraction list may vary for this pass. Fast Lane Plus Unlimited priority access to all Fast Lane attractions. All-Season Fast Lane Unlimited priority access to all Fast Lane attractions all season long. All-Park All-Season Fast Lane Unlimited priority access to all Fast Lane attractions at all Six Flags parks all season long. 3 hours ago, KI Guy said: For me there is almost no appeal since I generally go to Kings Island as much as I want and ride as much as I want. I don't have much of a desire to ride anything more than once or twice. Afterall, it is Kings Island, and I've been there many, many times just as most passholders have. The pass is just access for something fun to do with friends. I would only ever think of getting Fast Lane if I had a strong desire to ride everything at a park in one day. Kings Island is a park I visit enough to be able to get through everything throughout the season. I might get it for a visit to Cedar Point, but even then I don't have the strongest desire to [Pay] More so I can Wait Less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBEW_Sparky Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 4 hours ago, DJSkyFoxx said: But as someone who has had all season Fast Lane, I have bought it and may consider buying it again for a couple of reasons. For one, it makes my park trips less stressful. No matter what the crowds are, I know I will get to ride what I want and not be stuck in line. I hate waiting in long lines which leads to point 2) I genuinely cannot handle the long lines anymore. People are far too unpredictable and kids are so poorly behaved that it just causes far too much discomfort for me to want to stand and wait more than 10 minutes for a coaster I've ridden countless times. It comes down to comfort and safety for me and the ones I go with. Going to the parks is something I enjoy doing to relieve stress, not obtain more. Exactly all of this, and @KI Guy, reasons 1 and 2 on your list. There is no roller coaster in the World at this point and time in my life that is worth more than a 30 minute wait (15 ish at KI simply because I could make the drive there every weekend if I truly wished to), and you flat dont get on Mav and SV in less than 30 without FL+. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion-XL200 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 19 hours ago, KI Guy said: I've been about the biggest critic of Fast Lane there is on these forums. I am curious though why people buy it. I understand the thought process for buying Fast Lane for a special, single trip if due to scheduling someone has to go to Kings Island on a very busy day and something else can't be arranged. I do wonder what the appeal of the season long Fast Lane is. Is it primarily...? 1) The freedom to go on very crowded days and still get to ride the rides you want to? 2) The ability to re-ride over and over on not busy days. 3) Some kind of flex/clout thing that makes someone feel special. Don't dismiss this; there are people like that. For me there is almost no appeal since I generally go to Kings Island as much as I want and ride as much as I want. I don't have much of a desire to ride anything more than once or twice. Afterall, it is Kings Island, and I've been there many, many times just as most passholders have. The pass is just access for something fun to do with friends. I can understand it from the standpoint of someone who is fairly rich and just wants to have the best experience whenever they can, but I don't believe that is the majority of season long Fast Lane. Fast Lane would just shorten my day, and I would "get through" all the rides more quickly. The waiting in line is just part of the time spent at KI with my friends and family. For those of you who have season long Fast Lane—what is the appeal? For me, I don't live close enough to any park (though I'm 1/2 way between KI and CP geographically (ish). With my job I can't just take off at the end of a shift and head to a park and ride whenever I want. Visiting the park(s) is not convenient for my location/schedule as those who "live next door." One of my best friends visits a park close to them at least two or three times a week (I wish I could, just can't without sacrificing family time, sleep, $ etc.). So I utilize the all season long (all park) Fast Lane because: standing in line and not getting many rides in during the visit is not worth the hassle of my ability to get to the park(s). Do I drive 3 hours one way to only be able to ride 10-15 rides throughout the day, or would it be better to have all season Fast Lane when I can get 30-45 rides in a day? When I visit a park, 90% of the time I'm there from before open to close, so time wise I want to make sure I get as many rides in as possible to make it "worth it." For me, Magnum XL-200 is my favorite ride at Cedar Point. Having the ability this past season to get 25-35 rides on it during a singular day is amazing. Why wouldn't I want to ride my favorite ride as much as I am physically while following park rules able to? I do like having the ability to ride the rides I want to despite the crowd level and have the ability to re-ride over and over. For me, it's not a flex/clout thing to have season long Fast Lane. Sure, it's "cool," to have it, but if I do end up visiting any park with friends who have it, it'd be hard to have a visit with them if I didn't have it. I am in no means rich, and I don't have all season Fast Lane because I am rich. I budget and utilize the easy pay program to be able to afford it. If they didn't have that ability, I would either not be visiting the park(s) nearly as much as I do or I would not have the all season Fast Lane. Not having all season Fast Lane would significantly lower the amount of visits I make. I think for 2025 at Cedar Point I made 16 visits into the park. Without all season Fast Lane, it may have been two or three visits. So I guess after all of the above words, lol, the appeal, it makes visits able to happen and to be able to ride what I want to ride. 17 hours ago, DJSkyFoxx said: At this exact moment I have not bought the season long FL for my pass yet ( and am not sure quite yet if I am going to as I have a few other things I may need to focus on...but I have a few more months to see what happens before I decide ) But as someone who has had all season Fast Lane, I have bought it and may consider buying it again for a couple of reasons. For one, it makes my park trips less stressful. No matter what the crowds are, I know I will get to ride what I want and not be stuck in line. I hate waiting in long lines which leads to point 2) I genuinely cannot handle the long lines anymore. People are far too unpredictable and kids are so poorly behaved that it just causes far too much discomfort for me to want to stand and wait more than 10 minutes for a coaster I've ridden countless times. It comes down to comfort and safety for me and the ones I go with. Going to the parks is something I enjoy doing to relieve stress, not obtain more. I agree with you, comfort and safety play into it for me too. I visit to relieve stress, not get more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DispatchMaster Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 20 hours ago, KI Guy said: I do wonder what the appeal of the season long Fast Lane is. It comes down to how much a given person values their time. If a FL/FLP pass costs, say, $150, and someone values their time at $50/hr, one need only save 3 hours to "break even", which is relatively easy to do. If you get on 6 rides throughout the day and save an average of 30 minutes per ride, you've come out even. Anything more than that and you come out ahead. Personally, I don't use it to marathon rides or maximize the number of laps I get throughout the day. I use it because I'd rather be enjoying my day at the park without spending the majority of it waiting in line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 On 11/7/2025 at 6:22 PM, Losantiville Mining Co. said: A survey has been sent out by Cedar Point gauging interest about potential changes to the Fast Lane priority access system. If I understood correctly it would change the Fast Lane and Fast Lane Plus systems in the following ways: Fast Lane (standard) was Unlimited entries to most FL lines would be One entry to any FL line Fast Lane Plus Unlimited entries to any FL line (no real change here) This would cut down on the amount of people who "abuse" the Fast Lane system by lapping rides and forcing standby line guests to wait longer. I'd be all for this if it is implemented correctly. I didn't receive this survey and only heard about it from today's Beachcliff Studios, but it seems to be real. It cost roughly $45 dollars to have lightning lane multi pass (Fast Lane) at Disney World’s Magic Kingdom for one time use on each ride. And CP is wanting to charge $100 for essentially the same thing??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 7 minutes ago, Tr0y said: It cost roughly $45 dollars to have lightning lane multi pass (Fast Lane) at Disney World’s Magic Kingdom for one time use on each ride. And CP is wanting to charge $100 for essentially the same thing??? Part of the survey announced the cost?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 27 minutes ago, Browntggrr said: Part of the survey announced the cost?? Based off this year’s pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losantiville Mining Co. Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 I'd like to clarify — at least for my own peace of mind — that I don't enjoy having Fast Lane available at the rate it currently is. It's very good to have for those who don't visit the parks often and for those who want to have a hassle free day, but it has come to a point where I feel like it is oversold for what it offers. When the FL line gets to be 90 minutes (1.5 hours) long and the standby line is 180+ minutes (3+ hours), that "priority access" feels like it becomes another hassle. It functions better when the wait time is kept to 15-30 min Fast Lane / 60+ minute Standby. Is there a good way to make the system work better in both situations without fundamentally changing it like in the survey? I feel like the way that this product has been developed no longer functions as well as it did when it was first introduced at Kings Island in 2011. There is a point to be made about the fact that the program has a high ROI and that the park gains way more money than it spends on the materials/scanners/etc., but I keep coming back to the high wait time issue. Spending $100-$200 to wait in a 90 minute line instead of a 180+ minute line defeats the purpose for me. What I like about what the survey offered is that it would maintain a lower Fast Lane wait time for each ride while still allowing guests who purchase it to ride everything that it offers. I believe there is a way for the survey Fast Lane, Single-Use Fast Lane, Fast Lane Plus, and All-Season/All-Park Fast Lane to coexist, but something needs to be done about the implementation and functionality of the system as a whole. I will also put it out there that good and fast ride operations are not the only way to improve Standby/Fast Lane wait times at each ride. A park could provide good entertainment that draw families away from each queue line for about 30-45 minutes per show. Good, high quality food might occupy about 30-60 minutes of someone's time if they eat at a leisurely pace. Midway games and arcades won't take up as much time due to their shorter durations of play, but they offer another experience. The more good alternatives a park offers, the more they can spread out the guests between all of the attractions they offer without needing to spend the money to add a new roller coaster as often. If anything, I think the parks could look into a "Ticket Book" system for Fast Lane. For example, "A-Ticket" through "D-Ticket" attractions could be unlimited rides while "E-Ticket" attractions could be limited in how many entries they allow. There would need to be some more development in how it might work with wristbands and phones. I'd love to see a Single Rider line or option added to some rides as well. If it were implemented via a scannable wristband system like Fast Lane, a single rider could potentially wait in the dedicated line and scan their wristband at the station with no hassle. Groups would not be able to obtain a Single Rider wristband and would be removed from the line — with their wristbands removed/deactivated — by security if they tried to abuse the system. Maybe I need to watch the Defunctland FastPass video again to jog my memory and revisit this topic with refreshed thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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