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^ Also paywalled. Can someone point me to a free-to-read version of the two stories above?

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I seem to recall hearing that they were slow as well, but I don't recall where I heard it from. It makes sense, because why would they need to offer discounted admission on a busy day when people will fill the park anyway? They've run bring-a-friend days in late August each of the last two years to try to get more people in the park; it seems that the same would be true here. Anyone (here) know for sure?

I didn't think of checking my season pass. The toll-free number you listed matches the "general park information" number on the back of my pass and sounds familiar to boot.

The online contact page is here (for future reference, that's accessible from the "contact us" link at the bottom of every page on the park website). That page used to have the phone number on it as well, but it's no longer there, and I don't remember what it is and can't find it.

^ Unfortunately, I can't view that article; it's paywalled.

I'm pretty sure that was only available for school groups and the like, not for individual guests.

Welcome aboard! Great to have you with us! The more, the merrier!

Nice! A lot of the technical details are flying right over my head, but this is still an interesting read, and the pictures are great.

If I see a line like that for The Racer, I'm hightailing to the Fast Lane booth.

Hmm. I typically hold my arms up throughout The Beast. However: 1) I try to sit on the right-hand side when possible, and 2) I'm a short guy with shorter arms and a very short reach. In short, my arms just don't reach high enough to hit anything.

I never got to experience it the way it's described here. I wish I had; it sounds great!

The King's Island "dining plan" tickets are simply tickets to Backyard BBQ. Not really the same thing or even new/different. Not what he's referring to. If you look under the "Daily Tickets" tab, you'll see the dining plan tickets.

Who knows? Perhaps you'll discover that it's not all bad. I didn't like the idea when it was first announced last July, but my opinions changed after I tried it out for myself on a Saturday a couple weeks later. Once you see it in operation from both sides (with and without a FL pass), your views on the matter may very well change.

I love it! I have high hopes for this and future seasons! Now if Opening Day will just get here already...

Yes, I know I'm responding to old posts here... You know they'd never be able to get away with that. The same people who are outraged at food and drink prices now would be outraged if they made gold passes $99 so they could lower the food and drink prices. They can't win. Not necessarily. I hate the current food/drink prices to the point where I flatly refused to eat in the park at all last year. If they bring those prices down to a reasonable level, I would HAPPILY pay $120 to $130 for a Gold Pass and $220 for a Platinum Pass. Maybe even higher if they were to go HW on us and offer free unlimited soft drinks. On a more current note: I already posted that in the Soak City construction thread in the KIC News forum. Indeed it is.

Dinosaurs Alive! and Fast Lane, yes. WindSeeker and Soak City? WindSeeker was installed at four parks simultaneously, including the chain's flagship park, and the Soak City brand already exists at other Cedar Fair parks, again including the flagship. I disagree that those two are/were being "tested" at KI. As for pass perks, those appear to be starting at the aforementioned flagship with meaningful meal deals.

Let me play devil's advocate here for a minute. You may be comparing apples and oranges there, and here's why: Those guests in the FL would, without FL, all be in the regular line, making the regular line longer. It might be that the wait time in a given situation is the same as it would be without FL, only that the the line is physically shorter (because guests are split between two lines instead of all being in one line) and thus misleading you as to what the wait time without FL would be. Does that make sense? This would only account for people in the Fast Lane pre getting in line. Wait times will be increased due to people getting in line after someone get in line. I'm not against the Fast Lane pass in any way but I do not agree that the wait times are not affected. But while it does not account for people who pass you in the FL after you're in line, think about people who used FL and rode before you got in line but who would have otherwise, without FL, still been in line ahead of you when you got in line. At first glance, those people, taken alone, should shorten your wait compared to no FL because they're no longer in line. Those people will likely be similar in number to the people who get in the FL after you enter the standby line and who, taken alone, lengthen your wait, and I would guess that those two factors cancel each other out nicely, leaving my previous explanation still valid. That argument is the same as saying, if there were only one single line, to think about the people that rode at 10AM when I get into line at 5PM. They have already been through and forgotten about. Those rides would have went weather I was in line or not. Anyone entering the FL post me getting into the standby line increases my wait by their ride.Basically the same as if I were waiting in line and decide to let someone in front of me to ride with their larger group. My wait time increases by 1 train cycle. What I'm trying to say is this: let's say that pre-FL, your wait time would have been 45 minutes, meaning that 45 minutes of riders are in line ahead of you when you get in line. With FL, let's say that of those 45 minutes worth of riders, one-third purchase a FL wristband and use the FL before you get in line, thus reducing the standby line to what appears to be (from your pre-FL experience) a 30-minute wait when you get in line. While you are in line, 15 minutes worth of riders enter the FL and pass you. Add those last two figures together, and you end up waiting 45 minutes, which is the same length of time you would have waited without FL. In other words, yes, those who pass you in the FL slow down the standby line, but that increase is offset by the reduction in the initial length of the line, which you don't see. Essentially, what we need to do is throw away our preconceived notions of "a line to this point is this long of a wait", because those "timepoints" have been changed by FL, even though the actual wait times have not changed much, if at all.

...unless the Haunt attraction is named The Crypt!

Let me play devil's advocate here for a minute. You may be comparing apples and oranges there, and here's why: Those guests in the FL would, without FL, all be in the regular line, making the regular line longer. It might be that the wait time in a given situation is the same as it would be without FL, only that the the line is physically shorter (because guests are split between two lines instead of all being in one line) and thus misleading you as to what the wait time without FL would be. Does that make sense? This would only account for people in the Fast Lane pre getting in line. Wait times will be increased due to people getting in line after someone get in line. I'm not against the Fast Lane pass in any way but I do not agree that the wait times are not affected. But while it does not account for people who pass you in the FL after you're in line, think about people who used FL and rode before you got in line but who would have otherwise, without FL, still been in line ahead of you when you got in line. At first glance, those people, taken alone, should shorten your wait compared to no FL because they're no longer in line. Those people will likely be similar in number to the people who get in the FL after you enter the standby line and who, taken alone, lengthen your wait, and I would guess that those two factors cancel each other out nicely, leaving my previous explanation still valid.

Let me play devil's advocate here for a minute. You may be comparing apples and oranges there, and here's why: Those guests in the FL would, without FL, all be in the regular line, making the regular line longer. It might be that the wait time in a given situation is the same as it would be without FL, only that the the line is physically shorter (because guests are split between two lines instead of all being in one line) and thus misleading you as to what the wait time without FL would be. Does that make sense?

Yep! See: http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25355-dinosaurs-alive-movie-now-free/

It's just big long benches, not individual seats. At least that's the way it was in late May last year.

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