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According to the way the state constitution is written, and the way the voters approved the amendment, the only casino style gambling that can be conducted in the state (outside of the slot machines at the racinos), must occur at the four casinos that have or will open in the state. And since Cincinnati is getting a casino, one has to wonder what impact that will have on River Down`s plans. I too have heard some grand schemes about their plans and that to the owners, money is no object. It will be interesting to see what develops. Stay tuned...

Essentially, the land that Riverbend sits on used to belong to Coney (and Taft Broadcasting). The land was donated (Riverbend is actually owned by the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra) to the symphony for the original Riverbend music center. Other than the RSVIP/accessible parking, there is no parking lot on Riverbend property. As such, it was only right that Coney, which had the parking infrastructure in place, handle the parking. Coney does get revenue from the parking for concerts (every concert at Riverbend has a "facility use" fee, part of which goes to pay for the parking. When you go to a concert at Riverbend, no parking money is collected when you park in the Coney lots for this reason. Additionally, all the concession stands at Riverbend are actually operated by Coney. And in turn Coney gets money from this. These arrangements were part of the deal for Coney donating the land to Riverbend. And when the smaller PNC Pavilion was built several years back, Coney donated some more land to Riverbend. The new racino indeed has impacted how Coney does business and its future plans. Which will only become more evident as the months go by. Being careful not to say too much.

Coney has NOT sold land to River Downs. In fact, Coney`s next door neighbor isn`t even River Downs. It is Riverbend. Riverbend owns a plot of land from the Ohio River all the way up to Kellogg. (Albeit, this plot of land is only about 25' in the parking lots between Coney`s parking lot and River Downs` parking lot.) There will be implications, as others have mentioned, where will all the cars park. Especially when construction is going on for the new Racino. Will this development impact Coney, yes! Will it force Coney to close or be overcome by the new Racino, I think not.

I too have not heard anything about the marina or moving the Delta Queen here, other than what was mentioned in the article. Riverdowns owns quite a bit of land to the east for the current grandstand. They also own a large plot of land on the north side of Kellogg, across from the parking lot that is to the east of the grandstand. As I have said before, the Riverdowns redevelopment will impact Coney, but I don`t think it will be as big of an impact as what Pilotank is letting on. Remember, Cincinnati will be opening a casino next spring, so its not llike this new Racino will draw people from all over the city. I do think that it will help the area and maybe attract some additional customers to Coney, but they are going after different target markets.

So I wonder if they deemed the real estate better suited fir this new attraction. Or if they were not impressed with the upkeep/throughput/popularity of Adventure Mountain. Seems odd it only lasted three seasons. Before it was built, that was just a barren hillside.

A couple clarifications. Winterfest was restaged in 2005, not 2006 as that YouTube video states. I actually saw the play today at work as part of our Adopt A Class program. I immediately recognized it as being nearly identical to the Winterfest show that I saw in 2005. Great to see a tremendous show living on. I would definitely recommend that you go and see the show. Top notch production.

I don`t think you have to worry about Coney going away anytime soon. It will be around. I don`t think River Downs will take over Coney. They own quite a bit of land already. If anything they see Coney as an added benefit, because it is another attraction to attract people to the area. And remember, technically, Coney Island borders Riverbend Music Center, which in turn borders Riverdowns` land. Riverbend is owned by the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra. I don`t think that the changes to Riverbend will cause Coney to go away. Will it change the way that Coney does things? Yes. I know that for a fact. And I`m sure we`ll see some of those bear out in the coming months and year

But the parks have to have something to draw the people there to induce them to pay those large parking rates.

Well, that is a given. But the fact that Kings Island`s Flight of Fear still has most of its original theming intact is impressive. Especially when compared to what happened to Kings Dominion`s Flight of Fear`s queue.

I still maintain that is remarkable how much of Flight of Fear`s theming is still there. Yes, there have been some things that have come and gone with its theming over the years, but the ride will be 17 years old this upcoming season.

Because some people would pay for both the premium "paid" mazes/experiences and the Fright Lane passes. Thus, Cedar Fair would get even more income from these individuals. Sure, enthusiasts and people that post here may complain about such an offering, but if it proves to be a money maker for the company, then why not roll it out across more of their parks. This is my 10,000th post. Hard to believe that I have made that many posts. I haven`t been on much lately as I have been working two jobs (and close to 70 hours a week). Right now I`m on a brief reprieve as I do my civic duty and am on jury duty.

This is actually the 30th year that the Cincinnati Zoo is hosting the Festival of Lights. It first began in 1982. I plan on going with my girlfriend in a couple of weeks. While not as widely acclaimed as the Columbus Zoo, the Cincinnati Zoo has been investing a lot of money in upgrading their facilities over the years. It is vastly different than even when I visited on field trips for school in the mid 1990s. Its been a while since I`ve been on here. Two jobs going on and I`ve been working close to 70 hour work weeks since mid-October, leaves little time to get on here.

Yep, as Westcoaster stated, Pinnacle Entertainment, Inc., the Las Vegas based owners of Riverdowns have decided to tear down the existing grandstand facility and clubhouse to make way for the new development. Price tag of $209 million, including licensing fees. This will have a direct impact on Coney Island, no doubt. ConeyKing, the earthwork that is going on at Coney is located between Lake Como and Kellogg Avenue, but it is entirely on Coney property. Do not get your hopes up for anything for next season. I wouldn`t expect much from Coney for the 2013 season. They are already talking about 2014, however...

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They are NOT currently doing any upgrades to Kellogg Avenue. The earth that is being moved is in fact on Coney property. Now, Anderson Township has mentioned some sort of improvements to Kellogg Avenue, especially to try and alleviate flooding when the Ohio rises, but as of right now, no plans have been publicly discussed about what improvements may happen.

There are also things other than just a new entrance building coming to Cedar Point... Buildings can be expensive, and general site improvements are not cheap. So the true cost of investment at Cedar Point doesn`t include just the physical hardware from B&M. There also is the demolition costs associated with Disaster Transport and Space Needle. Wooden coasters can be quite expensive in their own right, depending on how much other infrastructure is required. As far as the two coasters at Mt. Olympus, keep in mind that with two train operation, you need to have a storage track for one of the trains. If there is no storage track, then the ride needs to be modified to provide this. When both Raven and Legend opened at Holiday World, they only had one train. With modifications, a storage area was added and two train operation began. Hopefully, as others have stated, this means good things for Voyage running Timberliners in 2013 at Holiday World.

It will be interesting to see what exactly happens with this in the next few years. Could hotels be on the way to other parks that currently do not offer any form of on site accomodations? What about campgrounds? Matt Ouimet certainly seems like he knows what he is doing. Its going to be a fun ride the next several years.

http://www.cedarfair.com/ir/press_releases/index.cfm?current_root=15&mode=story&story_id=363

I agree. Those Dyson hand dryers are terrible. On closing day his year, one of the men's restrooms that had those had a trash bag over it because it was broken. Yet just seem a lot less efficient than the excel hand dryers that places like Coney Island and Cedar Point.

Well, I do know that ther was an extensive amount of new wood on the Blue Racer on the turn out of the station. It looked like they had almost completely rebuilt the turn. All the wood was not yet painted. Hopefully they will do that over the off season. I`m sure there will be some minor improvements and changes at the park for next season, even if no new rides are coming.

It is more than just nothing. They aren't just going to be moving dirt around because they are bored. They are doing something. Just don't get your hopes up for anything exciting...

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Now if only Kings Island can get a flying scooter ride back! I really miss the Flying Eagles ride that flew the coop and went down to Carowinds.

And don`t come on here saying you just heard a rumor like that. You must at least site where you heard the rumor. Failing to do so, is exactly how rumors start. Ever heard of the game telephone?