If you were a parent of a 6 yo and 4 yo riding Sponge Bob

[khaoskat]

We were in line a few weeks ago. There were two open seats not the three I needed (one child is under height requirements and needs an adult). The Ride Op looked at me and told me I didn't need to ride with them that the lady sitting on the side with the two open seats could be their "chaperon".

This lady did not know me or my kids. The ride op never asked this lady.

I was 100% not comfortable with this for many reasons. But my question is is doing something like that "legal". I mean the ride clearly states under 46 inches must be accompanied. But to just dump a child on an adult without speaking with them. What if something would have happened. To me that seems like asking for disaster if something should happen to that child on that ride for the park and the ride op.

[TOPGUN1993]

You could of went to the bottom of the theater and watched in the non-motion bench seats. Is a 4 year old really tall enough to ride Action Theater? (not meant to be a rude comment)

[The Interpreter]

Who gives a hoot if it is legal or not? YOU are the parent. YOU are responsible for your children. YOU have a right to say "No, they are my kids and they are NOT riding with a stranger, and YOU are going to be reported to be Guest Relations immediately. YOU do not decide who rides with MY kids, thank you very much."

No ride is more important than the safety of your children. If this actually happened, I'd be complaining to Guest Relations, writing Mr. Richard Kinzel at Cedar Fair and possibly even discussing the issue with the local authorities.

[khaoskat]

It was not the action theater, it is the kids version of drop zone thing - Plankton's Plunge.

I told the girl no, I wanted to ride with them and she really didn't look that happy when I said it. We let two kids a bit further back go in front of us (there were two or three groups of three right in a row).

I was going to mention it to the ride op sup when we were at Rugrats (which was where my 6 yo wanted to go to next) but the ride op who said that to us was standing right there. I think the girl's name was Katie or Kathy or something like that.

My kids are on the top of the charts for height. My oldest was riding Iron Dragon and Disaster Transport last year and they both have a 46 inch height requirement. He rode Adventure Express this year and that has a 48 inch height requirement. He has been riding Little Bills since he was 18 months old. He has been riding Fairly Odd Coaster since he was about 3 and has been riding Rugrats since 4 1/2. They are taking after my Hubby's side of the family who are all over 6 feet tall, including some of the women.

[The Interpreter]

Good for you. Sounds to me like at least some of the ride ops in Nick Universe might need a refresher on leaving/putting children with strangers.

[KIfan1980]

Sounds to me like at least some of the ride ops in Nick Universe might need a refresher on leaving/putting children with strangers.

Unfortunately, I think many (definetely not all but a growing number) of the Nick U ride ops need a refresher in a few areas based upon my last couple of trips. I will note that Safety has NOT been the problem - but excitement (they are part of the experience for the kids), speed (I joke not that Diamondback train dispatch was faster last night than the exchange at Nick Jr Drivers), and common sense (if the line for a ride like Blue's skidoo is long - double the kids up, and my favorite example when there are only 4 people in line for Timmy's Air Tours - don't "assign" us to row 2 when my kid wanted to ride in the back. I mean seriously, assigning rows on Timmy's!)

[Coaster Kid]

If I left my kids alone in a seat next to a stranger (p.s i dont have kids im 13) I wouldnt feel comfterble she could offer them candy and they could walk off with out even knowing it.

[khaoskat]

Good for you. Sounds to me like at least some of the ride ops in Nick Universe might need a refresher on leaving/putting children with strangers.

I think instead of "illegal" or "legal" I should have said violates ride op rules.....

[buckeyemaniac]

The ride operator really did nothing wrong. She was stating a fact. The other woman could have served as the adult that your children needed. Granted, she should have asked if you were ok with it rather than telling you, and obviously the other woman would need to be ok with it as well, but it's quite frequent that children ride with adults that aren't their parent.

Also, you'd have to be pretty dumb to let your kids out of your sight on a ride, especially if they were with a stranger.

[The Interpreter]

I respectfully disagree. As a park operator, you'd have to be "pretty dumb" to even ask that pre-school age kids ride with a stranger these days. And if that stranger did anything untoward during that ride, everyone involved, from the child's parent to the ride operator to park management that had such a policy to the stranger would likely find themselves in Family Court for endangering the welfare of a child. Putting a child this age on a ride with a stranger is, at the very best, unwise. We ARE talking about a 4 year old here. Even as to the six year old, it's stretching it, at best.

[buckeyemaniac]

I respectfully disagree. As a park operator, you'd have to be "pretty dumb" to even ask that pre-school age kids ride with a stranger these days. And if that stranger did anything untoward during that ride, everyone involved, from the child's parent to the ride operator to park management that had such a policy to the stranger would likely find themselves in Family Court for endangering the welfare of a child. Putting a child this age on a ride with a stranger is, at the very best, unwise. We ARE talking about a 4 year old here. Even as to the six year old, it's stretching it, at best.

If a parent does not want to ride the ride, or there is no room, I frequently ask them if they would mind their child riding with another adult if they are too short to ride alone. Many of the parents go that route, others do not, no harm done. Besides, on a flat ride you never lose sight of the kid.

[dragsterfan420]

Who gives a hoot if it is legal or not? YOU are the parent. YOU are responsible for your children. YOU have a right to say "No, they are my kids and they are NOT riding with a stranger, and YOU are going to be reported to be Guest Relations immediately. YOU do not decide who rides with MY kids, thank you very much."

No ride is more important than the safety of your children. If this actually happened, I'd be complaining to Guest Relations, writing Mr. Richard Kinzel at Cedar Fair and possibly even discussing the issue with the local authorities.

Couldn't have said it better myself Terpy.

[Cody]

I respectfully disagree. As a park operator, you'd have to be "pretty dumb" to even ask that pre-school age kids ride with a stranger these days. And if that stranger did anything untoward during that ride, everyone involved, from the child's parent to the ride operator to park management that had such a policy to the stranger would likely find themselves in Family Court for endangering the welfare of a child. Putting a child this age on a ride with a stranger is, at the very best, unwise. We ARE talking about a 4 year old here. Even as to the six year old, it's stretching it, at best.

If a parent does not want to ride the ride, or there is no room, I frequently ask them if they would mind their child riding with another adult if they are too short to ride alone. Many of the parents go that route, others do not, no harm done. Besides, on a flat ride you never lose sight of the kid.

Wow. Big NO NO.

You sir should be discharged. If you see a situation were it involves letting a child on without their guardian and you place that responsibility on another currently riding (stranger)parent then I want to ask who gave you training? This is at the up most unprofessional event I have seen an Ride Op do. As your job, your suppose to run the ride with the full up most safety and care that you can. It may not seem like harmful at the time, but as you can by this posters feels out rage that they could even ask such a thing when it was oblivious that one of the riders needed a guardian and she(ride op) was just going to let the kids go without their mother to a complete stranger. I hope you take my post word by word cause you need to rethink on what you need to do when a situation like that comes up again.

[XGatorHead 8904]

As the parent of a 4 year old, I agree with those that are outraged about this. I will not allow my daughter to ride with a complete stranger. She is allowed to ride with another adult, as long as I know that person (hence the reason I offered GatorGirl's company to Violakat and TomRandom#s to get that elusive...for them...LBGC credit. That is, as long as GatorGirl was willing to ride with them, since she can get shy around people she's just met). I would be put off if a ride op said to me that another person, a stranger, could act as the chaperone. I would flatly tell that ride op "no", and wait for the next cycle when I can ride with her. I probably wouldn't think to stop by GR, but after reading this topic, if I'm ever confronted with this situation (which I have not been yet), you can bet I'll make a stop there.

I also have to agree with Rumor Smasher in questioning buckeyemaniac's training. So, buckeyemaniac, were you told during training that this was an acceptable practice, was it something you just determined yourself to be acceptable, or was it something your ride crew came up with as being okay? I'd really like to know, because if it was during training, that would indicate that it's acceptable to management to have complete strangers be reponsible for a kid's well-being... and that's not right in my mind!

[buckeyemaniac]

As the parent of a 4 year old, I agree with those that are outraged about this. I will not allow my daughter to ride with a complete stranger. She is allowed to ride with another adult, as long as I know that person (hence the reason I offered GatorGirl's company to Violakat and TomRandom#s to get that elusive...for them...LBGC credit. That is, as long as GatorGirl was willing to ride with them, since she can get shy around people she's just met). I would be put off if a ride op said to me that another person, a stranger, could act as the chaperone. I would flatly tell that ride op "no", and wait for the next cycle when I can ride with her. I probably wouldn't think to stop by GR, but after reading this topic, if I'm ever confronted with this situation (which I have not been yet), you can bet I'll make a stop there.

I also have to agree with Rumor Smasher in questioning buckeyemaniac's training. So, buckeyemaniac, were you told during training that this was an acceptable practice, was it something you just determined yourself to be acceptable, or was it something your ride crew came up with as being okay? I'd really like to know, because if it was during training, that would indicate that it's acceptable to management to have complete strangers be reponsible for a kid's well-being... and that's not right in my mind!

This is something we are not explicitly trained for, no, but it is something that everyone does, because it is completely acceptable. Again, there is no one forcing you to put your kid on the ride with a stranger, but it is an option that the ride operator is giving you. If a ride operator ever tried to force you to put your kid on with a stranger then I could understand the outrage, but from what I read from the OP, the ride operator simply put the option out there. If you don't feel comfortable with your kid riding with a stranger then don't let them. But I've had countless parents who have kids too small to ride by themselves and refuse to ride the ride. Often there are empty seats next to other adults and the parents ask me if they can put their kid with them. If it's ok with the parent and the other adult then why on earth should I stop it?

[Cody]

As the parent of a 4 year old, I agree with those that are outraged about this. I will not allow my daughter to ride with a complete stranger. She is allowed to ride with another adult, as long as I know that person (hence the reason I offered GatorGirl's company to Violakat and TomRandom#s to get that elusive...for them...LBGC credit. That is, as long as GatorGirl was willing to ride with them, since she can get shy around people she's just met). I would be put off if a ride op said to me that another person, a stranger, could act as the chaperone. I would flatly tell that ride op "no", and wait for the next cycle when I can ride with her. I probably wouldn't think to stop by GR, but after reading this topic, if I'm ever confronted with this situation (which I have not been yet), you can bet I'll make a stop there.

I also have to agree with Rumor Smasher in questioning buckeyemaniac's training. So, buckeyemaniac, were you told during training that this was an acceptable practice, was it something you just determined yourself to be acceptable, or was it something your ride crew came up with as being okay? I'd really like to know, because if it was during training, that would indicate that it's acceptable to management to have complete strangers be reponsible for a kid's well-being... and that's not right in my mind!

This is something we are not explicitly trained for, no, but it is something that everyone does, because it is completely acceptable. Again, there is no one forcing you to put your kid on the ride with a stranger, but it is an option that the ride operator is giving you. If a ride operator ever tried to force you to put your kid on with a stranger then I could understand the outrage, but from what I read from the OP, the ride operator simply put the option out there. If you don't feel comfortable with your kid riding with a stranger then don't let them. But I've had countless parents who have kids too small to ride by themselves and refuse to ride the ride. Often there are empty seats next to other adults and the parents ask me if they can put their kid with them. If it's ok with the parent and the other adult then why on earth should I stop it?

If a parent asks"hey I see an empty seat, and I would like my little one to ride with him/her is that okay with them?" Then as a ride op you should go over to the responsible person ask them if its okay. If he/she says yes its fine, then you should go back to the parent tell him/her that the responsible adult has agreed to let the child ride with them, then fine I can see this as the only acceptable case. In other terms you should NOT ask the parent the question if they want the little one to go ahead and ride without them. Its a family area!! Maybe its the little ones first time riding and he/she wants to enjoy it with he/she parents. You asking shouldn't even come to mind. If your area is Nick U, Last time I checked there was training for situations like this. Like I said you putting the question out there is just awful enough.

[XGatorHead 8904]

You brought up another aspect that I didn't, Rumor Smasher, and you make a good point. If I'm riding with my daughter, I don't want to be the chaperone for another kid I don't even know. Who knows what could happen, and if something awful did happen, don't look at me to be responsible for that kid!

Buckeyemaniac, when you place a kid with a stranger, do you inform the stranger chaperone that they are now responsible for this other kid as well, or do you just have the kid sit on the ride? If you don't inform the stranger chaperone, then in the parent's mind the stranger is the chaperone but the stranger chaperone has no idea they've been put in charge of the welfare of the child. That's all kinds of wrong.

[buckeyemaniac]

As the parent of a 4 year old, I agree with those that are outraged about this. I will not allow my daughter to ride with a complete stranger. She is allowed to ride with another adult, as long as I know that person (hence the reason I offered GatorGirl's company to Violakat and TomRandom#s to get that elusive...for them...LBGC credit. That is, as long as GatorGirl was willing to ride with them, since she can get shy around people she's just met). I would be put off if a ride op said to me that another person, a stranger, could act as the chaperone. I would flatly tell that ride op "no", and wait for the next cycle when I can ride with her. I probably wouldn't think to stop by GR, but after reading this topic, if I'm ever confronted with this situation (which I have not been yet), you can bet I'll make a stop there.

I also have to agree with Rumor Smasher in questioning buckeyemaniac's training. So, buckeyemaniac, were you told during training that this was an acceptable practice, was it something you just determined yourself to be acceptable, or was it something your ride crew came up with as being okay? I'd really like to know, because if it was during training, that would indicate that it's acceptable to management to have complete strangers be reponsible for a kid's well-being... and that's not right in my mind!

This is something we are not explicitly trained for, no, but it is something that everyone does, because it is completely acceptable. Again, there is no one forcing you to put your kid on the ride with a stranger, but it is an option that the ride operator is giving you. If a ride operator ever tried to force you to put your kid on with a stranger then I could understand the outrage, but from what I read from the OP, the ride operator simply put the option out there. If you don't feel comfortable with your kid riding with a stranger then don't let them. But I've had countless parents who have kids too small to ride by themselves and refuse to ride the ride. Often there are empty seats next to other adults and the parents ask me if they can put their kid with them. If it's ok with the parent and the other adult then why on earth should I stop it?

If a parent asks"hey I see an empty seat, and I would like my little one to ride with him/her is that okay with them?" Then as a ride op you should go over to the responsible person ask them if its okay. If he/she says yes its fine, then you should go back to the parent tell him/her that the responsible adult has agreed to let the child ride with them, then fine I can see this as the only acceptable case. In other terms you should NOT ask the parent the question if they want the little one to go ahead and ride without them. Its a family area!! Maybe its the little ones first time riding and he/she wants to enjoy it with he/she parents. You asking shouldn't even come to mind. If your area is Nick U, Last time I checked there was training for situations like this. Like I said you putting the question out there is just awful enough.

The only time I would ever actually put the kid in with another adult is if both the parent and the other adult are fine with it, and I'm sure no operators would do it without making sure it's ok with both parties. Situations arise, however, where the parent does not want to or cannot ride with their child, in which case, to put all their options right in front of them, I, and every other ride operator, will ask if they would perhaps want their kid to ride with another adult. The is nothing wrong with this, and many times parents do that. Other times the parent decides not to do it. Either way the final say is always with the parent. There is absolutely no one forcing them to put their child on the ride with a stranger.

[Cody]

As the parent of a 4 year old, I agree with those that are outraged about this. I will not allow my daughter to ride with a complete stranger. She is allowed to ride with another adult, as long as I know that person (hence the reason I offered GatorGirl's company to Violakat and TomRandom#s to get that elusive...for them...LBGC credit. That is, as long as GatorGirl was willing to ride with them, since she can get shy around people she's just met). I would be put off if a ride op said to me that another person, a stranger, could act as the chaperone. I would flatly tell that ride op "no", and wait for the next cycle when I can ride with her. I probably wouldn't think to stop by GR, but after reading this topic, if I'm ever confronted with this situation (which I have not been yet), you can bet I'll make a stop there.

I also have to agree with Rumor Smasher in questioning buckeyemaniac's training. So, buckeyemaniac, were you told during training that this was an acceptable practice, was it something you just determined yourself to be acceptable, or was it something your ride crew came up with as being okay? I'd really like to know, because if it was during training, that would indicate that it's acceptable to management to have complete strangers be reponsible for a kid's well-being... and that's not right in my mind!

This is something we are not explicitly trained for, no, but it is something that everyone does, because it is completely acceptable. Again, there is no one forcing you to put your kid on the ride with a stranger, but it is an option that the ride operator is giving you. If a ride operator ever tried to force you to put your kid on with a stranger then I could understand the outrage, but from what I read from the OP, the ride operator simply put the option out there. If you don't feel comfortable with your kid riding with a stranger then don't let them. But I've had countless parents who have kids too small to ride by themselves and refuse to ride the ride. Often there are empty seats next to other adults and the parents ask me if they can put their kid with them. If it's ok with the parent and the other adult then why on earth should I stop it?

If a parent asks"hey I see an empty seat, and I would like my little one to ride with him/her is that okay with them?" Then as a ride op you should go over to the responsible person ask them if its okay. If he/she says yes its fine, then you should go back to the parent tell him/her that the responsible adult has agreed to let the child ride with them, then fine I can see this as the only acceptable case. In other terms you should NOT ask the parent the question if they want the little one to go ahead and ride without them. Its a family area!! Maybe its the little ones first time riding and he/she wants to enjoy it with he/she parents. You asking shouldn't even come to mind. If your area is Nick U, Last time I checked there was training for situations like this. Like I said you putting the question out there is just awful enough.

The only time I would ever actually put the kid in with another adult is if both the parent and the other adult are fine with it, and I'm sure no operators would do it without making sure it's ok with both parties. Situations arise, however, where the parent does not want to or cannot ride with their child, in which case, to put all their options right in front of them, I, and every other ride operator, will ask if they would perhaps want their kid to ride with another adult. The is nothing wrong with this, and many times parents do that. Other times the parent decides not to do it. Either way the final say is always with the parent. There is absolutely no one forcing them to put their child on the ride with a stranger.

If a situation comes up where the parent does not want to ride or can not and the toddler is under the the height requirement but can ride with a responsible parent. Then you need to state to the parent of the child the rules and regulations for riding with a responsible parent. You usually won't run into this ordeal. If you do and explain to them the rules with under height requirement but can ride with a responsible parent, Most of the time someone of that party (16+,meets height requirement, and shows responsible behavior) Will speak up and ride with the toddler. The last thing on your mind should be asking another adult to take responsibility for another ones toddler.

[buckeyemaniac]

As the parent of a 4 year old, I agree with those that are outraged about this. I will not allow my daughter to ride with a complete stranger. She is allowed to ride with another adult, as long as I know that person (hence the reason I offered GatorGirl's company to Violakat and TomRandom#s to get that elusive...for them...LBGC credit. That is, as long as GatorGirl was willing to ride with them, since she can get shy around people she's just met). I would be put off if a ride op said to me that another person, a stranger, could act as the chaperone. I would flatly tell that ride op "no", and wait for the next cycle when I can ride with her. I probably wouldn't think to stop by GR, but after reading this topic, if I'm ever confronted with this situation (which I have not been yet), you can bet I'll make a stop there.

I also have to agree with Rumor Smasher in questioning buckeyemaniac's training. So, buckeyemaniac, were you told during training that this was an acceptable practice, was it something you just determined yourself to be acceptable, or was it something your ride crew came up with as being okay? I'd really like to know, because if it was during training, that would indicate that it's acceptable to management to have complete strangers be reponsible for a kid's well-being... and that's not right in my mind!

This is something we are not explicitly trained for, no, but it is something that everyone does, because it is completely acceptable. Again, there is no one forcing you to put your kid on the ride with a stranger, but it is an option that the ride operator is giving you. If a ride operator ever tried to force you to put your kid on with a stranger then I could understand the outrage, but from what I read from the OP, the ride operator simply put the option out there. If you don't feel comfortable with your kid riding with a stranger then don't let them. But I've had countless parents who have kids too small to ride by themselves and refuse to ride the ride. Often there are empty seats next to other adults and the parents ask me if they can put their kid with them. If it's ok with the parent and the other adult then why on earth should I stop it?

If a parent asks"hey I see an empty seat, and I would like my little one to ride with him/her is that okay with them?" Then as a ride op you should go over to the responsible person ask them if its okay. If he/she says yes its fine, then you should go back to the parent tell him/her that the responsible adult has agreed to let the child ride with them, then fine I can see this as the only acceptable case. In other terms you should NOT ask the parent the question if they want the little one to go ahead and ride without them. Its a family area!! Maybe its the little ones first time riding and he/she wants to enjoy it with he/she parents. You asking shouldn't even come to mind. If your area is Nick U, Last time I checked there was training for situations like this. Like I said you putting the question out there is just awful enough.

The only time I would ever actually put the kid in with another adult is if both the parent and the other adult are fine with it, and I'm sure no operators would do it without making sure it's ok with both parties. Situations arise, however, where the parent does not want to or cannot ride with their child, in which case, to put all their options right in front of them, I, and every other ride operator, will ask if they would perhaps want their kid to ride with another adult. The is nothing wrong with this, and many times parents do that. Other times the parent decides not to do it. Either way the final say is always with the parent. There is absolutely no one forcing them to put their child on the ride with a stranger.

If a situation comes up where the parent does not want to ride or can not and the toddler is under the the height requirement but can ride with a responsible parent. Then you need to state to the parent of the child the rules and regulations for riding with a responsible parent. You usually won't run into this ordeal. If you do and explain to them the rules with under height requirement but can ride with a responsible parent, Most of the time someone of that party (16+,meets height requirement, and shows responsible behavior) Will speak up and ride with the toddler. The last thing on your mind should be asking another adult to take responsibility for another ones toddler.

I don't see why you have a problem with making a suggestion... again: the decision is never anyone but the parents. I'm leaving this discussion now, because I don't think we're getting anywhere.

[Cody]

As the parent of a 4 year old, I agree with those that are outraged about this. I will not allow my daughter to ride with a complete stranger. She is allowed to ride with another adult, as long as I know that person (hence the reason I offered GatorGirl's company to Violakat and TomRandom#s to get that elusive...for them...LBGC credit. That is, as long as GatorGirl was willing to ride with them, since she can get shy around people she's just met). I would be put off if a ride op said to me that another person, a stranger, could act as the chaperone. I would flatly tell that ride op "no", and wait for the next cycle when I can ride with her. I probably wouldn't think to stop by GR, but after reading this topic, if I'm ever confronted with this situation (which I have not been yet), you can bet I'll make a stop there.

I also have to agree with Rumor Smasher in questioning buckeyemaniac's training. So, buckeyemaniac, were you told during training that this was an acceptable practice, was it something you just determined yourself to be acceptable, or was it something your ride crew came up with as being okay? I'd really like to know, because if it was during training, that would indicate that it's acceptable to management to have complete strangers be reponsible for a kid's well-being... and that's not right in my mind!

This is something we are not explicitly trained for, no, but it is something that everyone does, because it is completely acceptable. Again, there is no one forcing you to put your kid on the ride with a stranger, but it is an option that the ride operator is giving you. If a ride operator ever tried to force you to put your kid on with a stranger then I could understand the outrage, but from what I read from the OP, the ride operator simply put the option out there. If you don't feel comfortable with your kid riding with a stranger then don't let them. But I've had countless parents who have kids too small to ride by themselves and refuse to ride the ride. Often there are empty seats next to other adults and the parents ask me if they can put their kid with them. If it's ok with the parent and the other adult then why on earth should I stop it?

If a parent asks"hey I see an empty seat, and I would like my little one to ride with him/her is that okay with them?" Then as a ride op you should go over to the responsible person ask them if its okay. If he/she says yes its fine, then you should go back to the parent tell him/her that the responsible adult has agreed to let the child ride with them, then fine I can see this as the only acceptable case. In other terms you should NOT ask the parent the question if they want the little one to go ahead and ride without them. Its a family area!! Maybe its the little ones first time riding and he/she wants to enjoy it with he/she parents. You asking shouldn't even come to mind. If your area is Nick U, Last time I checked there was training for situations like this. Like I said you putting the question out there is just awful enough.

The only time I would ever actually put the kid in with another adult is if both the parent and the other adult are fine with it, and I'm sure no operators would do it without making sure it's ok with both parties. Situations arise, however, where the parent does not want to or cannot ride with their child, in which case, to put all their options right in front of them, I, and every other ride operator, will ask if they would perhaps want their kid to ride with another adult. The is nothing wrong with this, and many times parents do that. Other times the parent decides not to do it. Either way the final say is always with the parent. There is absolutely no one forcing them to put their child on the ride with a stranger.

If a situation comes up where the parent does not want to ride or can not and the toddler is under the the height requirement but can ride with a responsible parent. Then you need to state to the parent of the child the rules and regulations for riding with a responsible parent. You usually won't run into this ordeal. If you do and explain to them the rules with under height requirement but can ride with a responsible parent, Most of the time someone of that party (16+,meets height requirement, and shows responsible behavior) Will speak up and ride with the toddler. The last thing on your mind should be asking another adult to take responsibility for another ones toddler.

I don't see why you have a problem with making a suggestion... again: the decision is never anyone but the parents. I'm leaving this discussion now, because I don't think we're getting anywhere.

I guess you haven't been reading or by now you would have realize when asking such a question is a terrible mistake.

If your really a ride op(which I'm finding it hard too believe cause your showing unprofessional behavior but there are some out there) I really hope you go back re-read and look at other peoples post on how they feel about when getting asked a question like that and also take a look on how I dealt with the same situations and how I handled them and how I kept a guest happy and safe.