bkroz Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I'm talking builders. Not ride types... We have 3 Arrow Coasters, and 3 Vekoma Coasters. And yet we have 0 Intamin? I'm not complaining about our coasters. They are top notch, but we do need some diversity among company's. But even then... Arrow. Premier. B&M. Vekoma. John Allen. You'd be hard pressed to find parks as well mixed as the former Paramount Parks... Like, Disney parks only have Vekoma for the most part. SeaWorld Parks operate almost entirely with B&M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 The average park goer couldn't care less if a ride was built by PTC or XYZ. Mondial or Funtime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddie Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 The average park goer couldn't care less if a ride was built by PTC or XYZ. Mondial or Funtime... I've always preferred ABC, just because it's easy as 123. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 As long as it is not the now dreaded CBS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbeast1968 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I would love a B&M floorless, as I would have preferred Dominator to Firehawk(which I think flyers are a true fad)Oh well. OOHHH how about a new record of inversions on an Intamin mega-looper style. I think there is one currently NOT in the U.S. a ten-inversion coaster, that I can't recall the name of? What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 There are two 10 inversion coasters: http://www.rcdb.com/rhr.htm?m=4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddie Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I guess we need 11 inversions, right, Terpy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 It all depends...if they are all like the one was on Son of Beast, sure...if all 11 are like the pretzel loops on B & M standups, y'all can ride them all y'all want...I'll watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddie Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Mmmmmm pretzel loops. Sounds delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast1979 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 It all depends...if they are all like the one was on Son of Beast, sure...if all 11 are like the pretzel loops on B & M standups, y'all can ride them all y'all want...I'll watch! Do you mean B&M Flyers? B&M Standups have inclined, diving and vertical loops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Of course I meant fliers...it was early! At least I didn't say like on Millennium Force! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIfan1980 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Give me a two lift hill B&M invert with 13 inversions - Montu layout followed by Silver Bullet layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerRider Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 ^The B&M Floorless fad is mainly over. Um, B&M floorless coasters have been built every single year between 1999 and 2008 with the exception of 2006... Stand-ups are a fad. Inverts are a fad. Floorless coasters are just regular roller coasters with an added (or, really, subtracted) element. Diamondback could be made floorless if they wanted to... It's just like how dark rides are constantly being updated to be "interactive." It's just like a natural progression; like an evolution. It wasn't a fad, it's just a unique twist to any B&M coaster than wants it. Diamondback should have one normal train, one floorless train, and one stand-up train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RingMaster Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I'm talking builders. Not ride types... We have 3 Arrow Coasters, and 3 Vekoma Coasters. And yet we have 0 Intamin? I'm not complaining about our coasters. They are top notch, but we do need some diversity among company's. You are, of course, talking about a company whose flagship park has built four Timmys in the past ten years (five if you count Shoot-the-Chutes). Not to mention their last Beemer was close to 15 years ago (Mantis), and the fact that they only have TWO Beemers in their lineup (the rest are five Arrows, two more Timmys, one Toboggan, a Schwartz, a Komie, and a Dinn). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I'm talking builders. Not ride types... We have 3 Arrow Coasters, and 3 Vekoma Coasters. And yet we have 0 Intamin? I'm not complaining about our coasters. They are top notch, but we do need some diversity among company's. You are, of course, talking about a company whose flagship park has built four Timmys in the past ten years (five if you count Shoot-the-Chutes). Not to mention their last Beemer was close to 15 years ago (Mantis), and the fact that they only have TWO Beemers in their lineup (the rest are five Arrows, two more Timmys, one Toboggan, a Schwartz, a Komie, and a Dinn). And that toboggan one is also an Intamin creation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Not to mention one of the visual draws of the Dive Machine is the splashdown. Been there, done that, though... Plus, Dive Machines work really well at high-capacity parks. The Busch Parks are destination parks (the Tampa one perhaps moreso than the Williamsburg one, but they're still parks that people save up to go to as opposed to parks like Kings Island or Carowinds that cater to locals and the tri-state area for 90% of ticket sales). Griffon has an incredible throughput. I was there last week with the line out the door and through all the turnstyles. The sign said 15 minutes, and they weren't kidding. They dispatch those rides so fast... There were times when the train was ready to go, all checked, and they had to wait as the operator tracked the train already on the course, coming over the loudspeaker and saying "Approaching drop... On holding brakes... Approaching block... Annnnndddddddd ALRIGHT enjoy your ride on the mythical wings of Griffon!" etc because the train was ready to go before it was able to be launched. I feel like, at Kings Island, there would physically be no line after the first week of operation because they're so efficient. One operator to check each row you just walk right down and go "check check check check check" ten times and in one fell swoop you've checked half the train. And as Beetle said, the thing that makes the Dive Machines so appealing is the theme. Whether it's diving through ruined temples full of fog with the story being that you're a shikra (an African bird said to drive straight down through the air to snatch it's prey from the water) or you're amid terraces covered in vines and amid pools of water under the impression that you're witnessing the speed and power of a mythical half-eagle, half-lion... At Kings Island, the same ride might be called "Skyhawk" or something ridiculous and redundant, and it would not be built into the terrain, it would not be themed appropriately and beautifully, and it would almost certainly not have the signature splashdown. So what would be the point? And as I said earlier, how exactly do you market it? "New at Kings Island in 2012 - Skyhawk! The same height, the same speed, the same drop as Diamondback, but steeper and... different!" Might not catch on.. Not to mention if you have a dual loading station like SheiKra, you can dispatch 2 trains, then load 2 more. SheiKra was running all 5 trains when I visited in July. SheiKra loads 48 people at once, Griffon 30, Diamondback 32, Vortex 28. A dive maching with dual load stations would be the fastest line in the park. I am all for it. It would go behind Racer and Trail Of Terror, and drop down toward the river and back up. That would be AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormaster Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I really would love a Dive machine. I've never ridden one, and unless we make it out to BGA this next year (we've been talking about a florida trip since '07) I probably never will unless some park in the midwest such as Kings Island, SFGAm or Cedar Point put one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Why not go to Busch Gardens Williamsburg? Griffon, you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormaster Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Griffen's obviously newer and nicer than Sheikra, but we're wanting to go to Tampa for a full week stay, and we plan to do more relaxing than theme park visiting. It probably won't happen though... theres always other things we need to use our money for than taking a big vacation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormaster Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 call it a hunch but I don't think we're getting a new looping coaster for '11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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