Tanner Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 No one said CP was perfect. I just feel PKI should read a chapter out of CP's book and take it into account. You guys are all gloating over the fact that there was an accident on TTD. Why in the world would you be happy? People got hurt. I've noticed in recent trip reports that everyone is complimenting the crews. Now either they're doing it to make them look better because of this thread, or the crews read this thread and started making improvements. In alot of trip reports lately, the main emphasis has been the crews. Every ride has their downtime. It just so happens to you were there at the wrong time with Gemini. I was there for two days, it was running all day; both sides except when it rained a little. You're acting like no rides at PKI have had downtime for more than a day. I mean Wicked Twister in '02, was a brand new ride. Wasn't down because of CP, it was down because the track was cracking, who's fault is that? Certainly no CP's. Dragster, not CP's fault. Millenium Force was down because the cable lift system broke. Not a big deal at all. If you notice every ride at CP that you're saying it having problems were all ground breaking coasters. TTD, Wicked Twister, MF, Magnum, and Gemini. But of course every ride (except new technology) will have their problems. New technology including TTD's launch and MF's lift system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB/Gun Steve-O Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 It is sad that the rides department doesn't care about capacity. The public does and that should be one of their cares also... Now on to the next point. You're fellow employees say it is unprofessional. How is having fun on yur job being unprofessional. Police have fun, firefighters have fun, pilots have fun. Tell them to lighten up and have fun. If work wasn't fun, no one would work. Give me a break. OK, I went a little too far on that. They care about capacity. But they are not emphasizing it nearly as much as they did last year, at least. I think that they are MUCH more concerned about "guest relations." A lot of you new folks don't understand this. Last year (for me at least), guest relating was something that was reserved for downtime, and it seemed that this was a rather universal feeling. As for your other point, that is a question that I have yet to have answered. It is not "fellow employees" that are telling me to shut up, they are people higher up in the hierarchy than I am. I have no idea why they find it unprofessional. I asked my sups about it, and one of them said "It just is." Maybe they are afraid that I will inadvertadly insult somebody - that's the only thing I can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xx2cansamxX Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Good thing my sups aren't like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB/Gun Steve-O Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 I don't mean to bash my sups here. They're good guys. There are just some things I don't understand, thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dionmarx Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Just a quick note for all of you that operate the rides, for the most part, my week at PKI saw no real, problems with the ride ops at any station! (the week of 06-18 to 06-26) Couple of the ops at DZ were great, in a good mood and attentive to their job... To change gears here, and not to knock CP, but, my last trip to CP, TTD did not run at all, 3 out 4 Drop Towers worked half the day, WT worked on and off all day... When entering the park, nothing was said about any rides being down, allthough I knew that TTD would not run, I still asked.. Nobody would say anything... At least at PKI there is a sign out front that informs you of any rides that will not be operating, before you enter the park.. When riding Raptor, I was by myself, waiting for 2nd seat of 1st car..When I got to the front of the line, the front seat had 2 empty, so the op said to move on up.. Now I'm locked in and checked, the sup comes over and has the locks released and sends me back to the 2nd seat... No problem for me except that the next pair of riders had to come from the stairs(about 15 people or so back), the other trains are backed up in the brakes, and 3-4 minutes go by, the ride comes to a complete stop... To me this was very efficient!(LOL) Never happened at PKI, yet.. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Usually, parks only hand out notices about rides being down when they know for sure that they will be down most or all of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dionmarx Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 U missed the point, even when asked what wasn't running, CP will not tell you, before entering the park.. Pki has a sign posted , before u enter, informing u of rides that will not be operating..(you can leave before you pay) Even then, i've been there, and rides that were listed, began operating.. CP's idea is to get u into the park first, then it is too late... And yes, any piece of equipment will break down at any time, you just have to minimize the down time... Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB/Gun Steve-O Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Pki has a sign posted , before u enter, informing u of rides that will not be operating..(you can leave before you pay) Really? I honestly did not know that. The only time I can recall them putting a big sign out in front of the gate or toll booths was the first year SOB was open. Then again, I don't pay much attention to what's going on at the front gate, or during the end of May/August period where staffing is incredibly difficult. Is it in one of those boxes they put those movie posters in or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Where's this sign located? I've never seen any such sign at PKI that says which rides will be closed. So, which ride at CP was definitely closed when you entered the gate that you didn't know about? From what you have said, it sounds like some ride was closed that CP wouldn't tell you about. I guess what I am asking is what exactly was the response when you asked them what rides were closed? Did they ignore you? Did they tell you nothing was closed? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xx2cansamxX Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I've never seen the sign either. I know Six Flags parks have them, well at least the ones I've been to. CP also had them fold out wooden signs that say TTD won't be in operation today. I've never seen a sign like that at KI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxrunner Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 That is because to my knowledge, unless something is at the front gate, we dont have a sign ( that i know of) we sit out there and explain to people that we are closed, that we expect it to not be a major delay, we apologize for the inconvience, and all the other good stuff like guest relating while our ride isnt working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 If you only go to a park for one ride you're stupid anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Good point Tanner. You really shouldn't base an entire trip to an amusement park for one attraction. The only people I really feel for is those that have to come from a further distance than me or can only afford to attend once a year. So, my guess is, there is no sign at PKI's gate letting you know what's closed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 There is a sign, it's been there for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Not that I don't believe you Tanner, but where is this? I am really curious. I have never noticed it before. I'm not always observant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB_TOM Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Right side of entrance when you come off of trams. How bout this idea: CP cares about money and getting people out of line as quick as possible. PKI wants a more intimate feeling with the guests, so we talk to them, and have fun with them. Which would you rather have, not as a coaster enthusiast, but as a father/mother with kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 How about this, CP talked to me and everyone else in line. What I want to know is don't you think it's weird that everyone on this board has had a bad time at CP. Maybe I'm just special, who knows. I think alot of people on this board are kids that get to visit CP once a year, while they visit PKI alot more than once; and they make sh*t up to defend a park for no apparent reason. I mean you're on here defending it, which it is a great park nonetheless; like you own the park yet you have absolutely nothing to do. I'm sorry, but that's what alot of this board is now, a bunch of kids who get their heart broken when someone says what the park needs to improve on. I'd say most of you come here because you're accepted here for what you like while your friends think you are the biggest nerd in the world; which my friends do; but I think it's funny as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 I am with you on this one Tanner. I have had nothing but pleasant experiences at CP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Punk Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 I get to visit CP only once or twice a year, but I would much rather go to CP than PKI. No doubt, PKI is cool but CP blows PKI out of the water any and EVERYDAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 Just as an update. I just received a letter from Cedar Point apoligizing for not being able to ride Top Thrill Dragster. I'll just say it included some nice perks. My fondness for CP has grown even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 My opinion of CP is now even better than before and I didn't even receive the perks. Now that is going way above and beyond normal service and customer satisfaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dionmarx Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Glad to see that everyone is alive in here. Ive been to all 5 Paramount Parks, each one has its'good points and bad.. But overall they do a fairly nice job.. Having a season pass works really well at all five.. I don't knock CP, it is a good park, but my family has a better expirience at PKI. We camp out for 9-10days at a time, which gives us plenty of time to take it easy all week. (some of you ride ops know us as the KI Annual Party Crew).. Having the tram to the park is great for the older kids so that they can come and go as they please.. So being there day after day, we got to know a few of you.... I also understand the nature of working at a park day after day, it is a job.. It could get boring after awhile... Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 If I had children, I would probably take them to PKI over CP. PKI just has so much more to do for the kids than CP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 No crap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroJim Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 I do have to praise my home park for it’s excellent ride crews and their performance. I’m sure Cedar Point puts a lot of training time into them and the jobs didn’t come easy for these college hopefuls. During my most recent trip to PKI [last summer] I didn’t really notice any problem with the ops, I’m sure I’m to accustomed to Cedar Point. There are still a lot of other parks that need to learn by Cedar Point’s example with speed and accuracy of the ride-ops and I don’t think PKI is one of them who should be worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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