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Inside the park- The International Street LaRosa's and Skyline (I love eating on International Street in general), Outer Hanks, Feasthaus only when its blistering hot, and Potato Works. Outside the park- Skyline and Arby's

The train choice kind of makes you wonder if there were any other trains being considered for the 2006/2007 rehab. What if Myrtle Beach Pavillion didn't close that year? Was it just out of coincidence that the current G-trains were chosen?

Did part of the renaming process Cedar Fair had to do in getting rid of Paramount/Viacom brands include the water park? Wasn't Boomerang Bay inspired by the Crocodile Dundee movies (which Paramount created)? I realize there aren't exactly direct links to the movies in the water park, just a thought.

I definitely like this move. Its a well deserved expansion of the water park and it shows that Kings Island and Cedar Fair are still interested in developing it. I definitely think we'll see more slides at some point in the future, just not all at once.

I got my gold pass last year for less than $50 during P&G Dividend Day last year (2010, my dad works for P&G and I go about every year for that event). They were about as low the year before.

Its definitely a lift. You can barely make out the lift feed on the track in the rendering, and there is a catwalk to go along with it.

I went to Kings Island last Thursday. There is something in this later that I want to bring up, as there was one bad spot in my trip. Anyways, I went for an all day trip, starting at about 11:30. I started by heading over to Vortex for a few rides to start my trip, as this was my first trip after it opened after the chain fiasco. Rode twice near the back and once in the front. I did read here and take the advice to try the 5th and 6th cars, and of course, was blown away at how much better they are. The 5th car is pretty comfortable, but the 6th is equally as good with some better forces in spots. In the front, I don't know if any of you noticed, but the new chain's color matches the violet-blue of the track. Kind of weird. I then went back towards the front, riding Blue Racer near the front. I don't know what it is about it, but I seem to like it better and even feel like it rides better at the beginning of the day. I always seem to hit it early on most of my trips. That done, I headed into Action Zone. I skipped Adventure Express for the line was almost out to the midway (a bit long for my tastes), Delirium had a big line, and Drop Tower and Invertigo were down, so there weren't a lot of options. So I went for Flight Deck. This wait kind of surprised me. Usually, for the days I've been to KI earlier in the season on weekdays, FD's line was short, at least not quite to where it was Thursday, which was about halfway between the station and SOB's old switchback queue. After that long wait, I got a bit warm, so I went for a nice refresher at Congo Falls. It was definitely cooler that day than most, but it still feels great, especially not having the waits WWC often gets. After that, I ate at Stunt Crew Grill. I walked it off heading back towards the end of Coney Mall. I usually carry some things I need with me, so I had to rent a locker for the next bit (I have some medical issues which I have necessity items a bag). What I usually do is use a locker for WindSeeker, Firehawk and Flight of Fear at the same time. I for one like WindSeeker. I don't pay attention to the hype KI had for it and just ride it for what it is. Now came the short little bad part of the day. I went from there to X-base to ride Firehawk. I got in the line, which extended just outside the small building prior to the main queue switchbacks. As I got to the building, this woman came out of nowhere and just started to jam her way into the line (line jumping). She did so past at least 4-5 employees (it looked like a shift change or something). I remarked this to the guy working the head of the line (the guy with the stick measuring smaller people), and he gave me a rather surprising and disturbing response. He actually defended the line cutter, giving her the excuse of what the rules state not to do, like to go out for drinks, bathroom, food, etc. I followed by stating the actual rule stated on the park map, but then he really ticked me off, saying that 'he made the rules' and even threatened to have me ejected for 'annoying him'. He even refused to let me talk to a supervisor. I realize employees can't catch every line jumper, but its really bad when they miss them in plain sight. A few visits back, I reported an incident to the crew at Invertigo. They only really told the people cutting not to do it and didn't even send them to the back of the line. They even said it was a myth that you could be ejected. Is it just me, or is it more of a problem this year than most? Maybe I'm just seeing more? Still kind of bothersome. I did report the staff to Guest Relations, and even wrote to KI and got a nice response back. Hopefully it sticks. Anyways, after Firehawk I did Flight of Fear in the front. BTW, they don't really assign seats on Flight of Fear, at least when I was there (or Beast for that matter). They just ask you to pick an empty seat as the next cycle loads. I for one wasn't too bothered by the fast passers either. I found a few lines more efficient as a matter of fact (Beast's especially, loving not having the crowded stations). I do hate that Flight of Fear comes to a complete stop on the MCBR, especially on the front cars with that weird hang time. Does anyone know why they made it do that and does KD's do the same thing? After FoF, I got my stuff and headed into Rivertown. Did Beast first in the second seat. Afterwards, I did Diamondback in the second seat as well. Both turned out great. While in the area, I did take the opportunity to ride Woodstock Express as well. I wanted to ride it for some nice nostalgia, but it kind of surprised me. I haven't ridden it since it was still named Beastie, but for what it is, its rather fun. I rode it near the back, and the drops had some nice pops of air. It also made everything else seem huge in comparison, which was kind of nice. I went back to Action Zone to finish up riding things there. Rode Invertigo, Drop Tower, Congo Falls a 2nd time, and Delirium in pretty quick succession. Delirium's line was about cut in half to what it was earlier in my visit. Also took the time to hit up Adventure Express as it was reduced to a walk on. By that time, it was about 8 pm, so I decided to do head back up to the back. I always try to catch Beast at night, and with 2 hours to spare, I killed time with a few other rides. Rode Racer and Vortex again, and by the time I got to Diamondback, it was pretty dark. I rode it for the first time at night. I have to say, its really thrilling at night. At the top of the first hill, its like this big black void where all the track should be, which kind of made me loose some prediction as to guessing drop sizes and things. It felt way faster paced and unpredictable as well. I also love how lively the queue and station are at night. Its really festive! So, I finished up riding Beast in the 2nd seat at night. Overall, aside from the thing at Firehawk, I had a pretty decent day. It'll probably be my last for a while, though UC Football is going later this month, and I'm in the UC band which we usually do a gig for that. My dad also works for P&G so I'll be going on P&G Dividend Day. Not sure about a Haunt visit as UC football wears you out if you're in the marching band. I haven't done it in a while, so I may try hard to go back.

I guess I should explain a little bit about myself in relation to how I go about park visits now. Also, please keep on topic, I could use some heads up info on things like what kinds of waits to expect, some good tips as to how I should plan my day, etc. I don't want all your gripes messing with what I want out of this trip. I like to take in everything parks have to offer. Whether it be the rides, shows, food, atmosphere, staff, etc., I like to soak it all in because I'm about experiencing parks as a whole. I've been to Kings Island, Cedar Point, Kings Dominion, Hersheypark, Dollywood, Six Flags Great Adventure, WDW Magic Kingdom and EPCOT, and Universal Studios Florida, of which, Dollywood is my favorite as a whole in relation to my tastes and expectations. I appreciate everything in what parks offer for entertainment and how they present it. I wouldn't count out spending 2 days at Holiday World, mainly because I want to soak up all of what both the dry park and the water park have to offer. Part of why I do that is due to the fact I could very well not be riding coasters at all, or heck even be here due to a few past circumstances (which I would like to keep to myself, at least not through posting, I'm ok with explaining it through PM or whatnot, I would like to get to know some members of this site as I live in the Cincinnati area). That experience kind of changed how I look at parks and rides as well as being knowledgeable though working for another site and the research on things I've had to do for news, blogs and such. I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on my tastes, expectations, and such when it comes to parks. Hopefully, this will give you guys an idea on gearing suggestions to fit how I'm planning this trip. Thanks for those who've given suggestions so far! BTW, I'm still up in the air about making it 1 or 2 days. Most of that decision stems from other things going on.

Ok, I need some help in planning for a park trip. I'm trying to fit in a Holiday World trip this summer, but one thing has me pondering a lot, and that is whether to make it a 1 day or 2 day trip. I am interested in hitting the water park, but I need to know if I can hit that and do a lot on the dry park as well. I'd also like to know other things to check out there besides the three woodies. What other attractions are worth doing and can I fit that, the water park and the 3 woodies in 1 visit? The decision from 1 and 2 days also affects my travel plans, for if I go 2 days, I will plan to stay near Santa Claus for a night and come back to Cincy after day 2. I could really use help in figuring this out, for I'm finding myself busy this summer and I need to see when I can go if 2 days is what I ultimately decide to do. Any help would be appreciated.

I'm guessing you guys haven't seen this video yet on what high winds will do... Skip to about 1:30 or so.

May I ask why are there half a dozen WindSeeker topics? Its kind of hard to keep track of any discussion when there are so many branches from the main topic.

I didn't really get a lot of bugs on either Tuesday or Wednesday when I rode it. I was more worried about pulling a Fabio and getting a seagull to the face.

It does close a lot for high winds as well.

I would like to share some first hand experiences I had as I got on WindSeeker the night it opened. It probably opened at about 7 pm as that's when the call went out around the park and the ride operators relayed it to guests. I was in line for Dragster at the time, so the line was extending past Wicked Twister at by the time I got around to it. I had about a 1.5 hour wait, plus a breakdown, but all they did was run a cycle without riders. Don't know what it was, but it got back up and running none-the-less. The lights look excellent at night, though they kind of get trippy if you look at them for too long. Its almost mesmerizing when you're that close to the lights. I don't know if the other 3 will have this, but CP does have a speaker with music playing attached to the ride carriage, which actually works rather well. As for the ride itself, its rather enjoyable. Its comparable to Zephyr or a typical swings ride in terms of the forces you feel. With Cedar Point's, its great being seemingly swung over the lake, which is a much improved view in the day. I felt that the thrill comes from the actual altitude as well as being hoisted up there so quickly. Its kind of a weird feeling looking down, plus its nice having nothing but a lapbar, making for a bit of a feeling of a lack of ride car, also kind of neat at 300 ft. As for re-ride-ability, I probably wouldn't wait for it unless it looked short, kind of like Crypt. Even if the queue switchbacks are full, it does chew through lines pretty well for what it is. Watching it in action kind of helps pass the time. All in all, I'm really glad Cedar Fair went with adding them.

There are apparently grey pieces at the plant in Batavia that are alleged to be for Thorpe Park's B&M wing walker (similar to Raptor at Gardaland), and I do recall Krake (the new dive machine at Heide Park) was made in Batavia as well. Heck, Hair Raiser (that yellow B&M floorless at Ocean Park in Hong Kong) was made there as well.

Its probably going to Parc Asterix as they are getting a B&M invert of that color for 2012. http://www.potionmagix.fr/forumix/nouvelle-zone-attraction-2012-parc-asterix-t1271-500.html http://screamscape.com/html/parc_asterix.htm

I found this picture as I was looking up old Coney Island photos. link-http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5u8xrdV391qcht8qo1_500.jpg

With the swing angle set at 45 degrees, are there hydraulics on the arms to control that or is it pure centrifugal force? I ask because any swinging angle too much above 0 will come awfully close to the queue and railings. If not, I imagine it won't start spinning until its risen a bit and then stop spinning before that point upon descending.

First off, I'd just like to say hello to you guys. I've been a 'stalker' for a little while now, but I'm now trying to get myself to post and stuff. Anyways, as much as there are flaws in the map, I think its just nice to see Kings Island getting a lot of the treatment other Cedar Fair parks get when it comes to maps and such. Stuff like changing the Kings Island logo, the new website look and now the map has made the transition from the Paramount days all but final now. I for one like this above the previous map. The ride drawings look a little more accurate to me, minus the over-sized hills, lack of Invertigo loop, etc. (stuff you guys covered already), and it lets the paths look easier to navigate with the rides more spread out on the drawing. My only thing is that the shows/shops are tiny on the map and even when they get numbered and such, it might be hard to discern what is what.

I heard the blue track will be for an inverted coaster to be placed at Parc Asterix. http://screamscape.c...arc_asterix.htm http://www.coastersw...ge=news&id=1258 Krake's track is going to be black. They've already started vertical construction. http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=56511&start=80

I think what happened in the animation is that they used Google Maps for the actual terrain and placed Racer and Vortex on top of those spots and expected the rest to be correct, which it probably isn't. That might explain why no other rides appear on the animation, just the ones in close proximity to Wind Seeker. Judging by the fact its in Coney Mall, the only logical spot would be to put it in Flight Commander's old spot. I for one think this is a great addition for Kings Island. I've always wanted something to take up that spot in the form of a flat, and this fits the bill perfectly (almost too perfectly as its almost the same type ride as Flight Commander, just 4x higher). I figure a lot of people agree with me in that its a good addition, but it still burns me up to see how its already getting ripped by people on other forums, paticularly general forums outside KIC such as Facebook. Its almost like all anyone wants anymore is a roller coaster, especially now that people realize Kings Island is affiliated with Cedar Point (which used to be quite the opposite, I remember people complaining about it when we added Diamondback that we were becoming too much like Cedar Point). For those wanting a coaster, it'd be a crazy notion for any park to add 3 coasters in 5 years (including Firehawk even though its a relocated ride). Six Flags tried it, and look how that turned out financially for them. I think we realize Cedar Fair is smarter than that, and considering the economy, these additions make sense. I was a little dissapointed Cedar Point recieved one as well, being close to both Kings Island and Canada's Wonderland. I almost suspect that 2012 will be the year Cedar Fair adds a coaster for a few parks, knowing that Six Flags has plans for 2011 for their 50th anniversery, and perhaps 2012 will be Cedar Fair's response to that. As crazy as it may sound from some view points, I wouldn't rule that notion out completely.

I don't think in any way you can blame weather. Most of the companies that know they have a shot designing something for Cedar Point will learn to cope with it. Last I checked, Mantis and Raptor opened without a hitch, and aside from a few incidents of Raptor valleying, they're relatively unphased by downtime. Magnum opened on time and was a huge leap from former coaster designs. Intamin and Cedar Point should have learned to adapt on the 5th ride in.

Could Cedar Fair file a lawsuit on Viacom for inheriting Son of Beast in the first place? Even if you couldn't, at least have Viacom pay for whatever CF wants to do with it, whether it'd be to refurbish it with retracking and new trains, or to destroy it. One could also question the expertice of inspectors from the Ohio Department of Agriculture for saying it was safe to operate, and now has been proven otherwise. I honestly think even the most seasoned enthusiast with knowledge of Son of Beast's flaws won't go near it.