disco2000

Sadly we have seen this trend coming for years, the "bait and switch" of the Prestige pass, etc. They get by on the fine print and caveat emptor.... Speaking of, have you been following the fiasco at Wonderland with their passes? They have many levels and had a regular pass that went on sale with the other passes in August for 2025. A little over two months later, they decided to eliminate the regular pass. They then moved everyone that had bought the regular pass (and the associated add-ons) prior to 11/8 up to gold free of charge and it became valid for WF 2024, including the freely upgraded add-ons. The Gold passholders are livid. They spent a lot more money for the gold and add-ons than they would have spent by buying a regular pass that then got a free gold upgrade. Passholders flooded Wonderland with complaints and requests for a refund of the difference between what they paid for the gold and add-ons and what the regular and add-ons sold for. They were told tough luck.... Now they have decided that IF, and only IF, you submit a complaint in writing, they will give you a BAF. But they are not offering that to everyone, only those that complain.

Isn't it sad that the level of trust is so eroded that you have to send an email asking this....

Scene75 type attraction in the KillMart building

Parks not mentioned in the press release are subject to closure

Didn't the current park GM call Orion a family thrill ride lol

Prestige pass holders are used to having things removed they paid for. Caveat Emptor

According to the website, FL is coming to Winterfest. But probably an oversight (or typical lack of review), it says season long not valid for Winterfest in the fine print, yet says it is valid every visit. Or maybe it is intentional and season long FL isn't valid because they already got your money....

And people complain about KI PR/marketing....

I was cross-threading a joke LOL

They are only available to 2025 pass holders

And people think our marketing is poor.....

Pre or post desert add-on charge

You haven't yet anyway LOL. Many end up renewing once the new season starts. Let's check back in a year, or six months LOL.

As I have said before, at the end of the day, problems and all with the current direction the chain is going in, a season pass and add-ons still represents a tremendous value for the entertainment dollar and hard to beat on any other entertainment venue in a cost/hour comparison. Go to almost any restaurant outside of KI and try to spend less in a week on 2 meals per day than the meal plan for the whole season costs! Sadly, that also means the parks are given a lot of leeway before someone says that they are not going to renew and actually doesn't renew. We see posts here and on social media every year that people are adamant they are not going to renew...and not only do they end up renewing, they end up buying add-ons as well....and the cycle repeats... Until attendance and revenue take a big enough hit that they cannot attribute the decline due to weather, this is the new norm.... As someone here once said, they already have your money....

They have been playing that in Coney during the day of the past several Haunt seasons.

Nope - many passholders do not even have physical cards

No chance for a last minute buyer... https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/west-chester/hindu-worship-center-to-take-over-entertrainment-junction-space-next-spring

But they aren't on the drink plan....

As terpy used to say "they already have your money" I bet you can buy some at Starbucks....

I know many people that say the same thing, yet most end up going again and complain, yet continue to go. Some have held their ground and have quit going. But they are in clear minority as people keep showing up. I often ask myself every year for the past several years if this is that year that ticks off enough people that the chain sees an attendance drop the following year, and every year they have record attendance or revenue and that makes it difficult for a publicly traded company to care about the little things that run people away because people still show up.

Sadly, you are experiencing what even some of the most die hard CP fans have been feeling for the last several years. People I know that would/could never say a bad thing about CP now complain. It is no longer the flagship park it used to be. Lots of factors come into play, but the overall experience isn't what it used to be. It will be interesting to see how they respond moving forward....sadly I think as long as people keep showing up in the record numbers, they have no incentive to improve the product. Why worry about if all the rides aren't going if the main parking lot fills up by 1pm on every Halloweekend ? Until the attendance drops noticeably, they have no incentive.

Nah, they just going for that weathered, homey feel

That only works for the rides that do not re-open like Racer, WindSeeker, Shake Rattle Roll, Eiffel Tower, etc. The majority of people don't leave The Beast line once is shuts down for fireworks. It could be some nights almost an hour it sits between shutting down early, the show, waiting to get the signal to re-open, all the while the line remains open until 10pm and continues to grow. This results in that ride getting out later than had it not closed. It may not be a direct correlation to the amount of time it was shut down, but on many nights, the line could have been cleared out by the time the ride is re-opened had it not had to close.

Sadly, that would probably cause Diamondback and possibly Mystic Timbers to have to close for the drone show and only Shake, Rattle, and Roll would be added back to not the rides not closing list as WindSeeker also is closed because of the lasers from International Street. The Beast and Orion (and possibly The Racer) would still be closed due to fireworks. And if they launched from there but then moved in flight to where they are now in the sky, that would shut down whatever goes in Vortex spot. It would be unfortunate to lose that much ride capacity, especially if they decide not to re-open some of them after the show.

The original calendar had them operating the weekend before Thanksgiving, but when they added another weekend to Haunt, they pushed back the start date of Winterfest. Due to the way the permit is in Ohio, the rides cannot operate after 12/31, so until KI decides to address whatever that would entail, ours will not open after 12/31.