RailRider Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 WKYC OSHA has proposed a fine totaling $185,000 against Cedar Point and Castaway Bay for various violations *Edited again after further interperting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Actually, Cedar Fair has NOT been fined. The fine is a proposal (and a press release by OSHA). The company has a right to respond first. And the proposed fines are nearly always greatly reduced, with no public fanfare. Still, not good news for Cedar Fair. From the article: The U.S. Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration has proposed $185,000 in fines against Cedar Fair, a limited partnership doing business as Cedar Point, and its waterpark-hotel, Castaway Bay, here... [emphasis added] ...The company has 15 business days from receipt of its citations to comply, request an informal conference with OSHA's area director or contest them before the independent Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausty1983 Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Did they find safety problems with the Castaway Hotel or Cedar Point??? Is there a article on what was found wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 The article tells you what they ALLEGEDLY did wrong. ....Specifically, OSHA charged Cedar Fair with failing to provide fall protection on two roller coasters at Cedar Point, not offering employees vaccinations for Hepatitis B and failing to conduct an adequate employee exposure determination for lifeguards as required by the bloodborne pathogen health standard.... OSHA is primarily concerned about employee safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Click the WKYC link in the first post. See Terpy, there you go again doing what you do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I can't help it. It's like I am compelled to interpret things or sumthin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 More on this, including detail: http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2...ront/930854.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Actually, Cedar Fair has NOT been fined. The fine is a proposal (and a press release by OSHA). The company has a right to respond first. And the proposed fines are nearly always greatly reduced, with no public fanfare. Still, not good news for Cedar Fair. From the article: The U.S. Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration has proposed $185,000 in fines against Cedar Fair, a limited partnership doing business as Cedar Point, and its waterpark-hotel, Castaway Bay, here... [emphasis added] ...The company has 15 business days from receipt of its citations to comply, request an informal conference with OSHA's area director or contest them before the independent Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission. So guilty until proven innocent? or until money is squeezed out of the business? Sounds more like extortion than protection for the public good. This is a perfect example of how many government agencies do not truly act in the best interest of the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 OSHA isn't supposed to act in the best interest of the public. It is supposed to act in the best interest of those working at employers...for workplace safety. How well it does so is argued about fiercely by both employees and employers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 OSHA isn't supposed to act in the best interest of the public. It is supposed to act in the best interest of those working at employers...for workplace safety. How well it does so is argued about fiercely by both employees and employers. And is not the safety of the work place acting in the best interest of the public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptor Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 osha is a pain in the you know what, another example of government getting way to big, at least we don't have the etest anymore that's a minor miracle, but the government will continue to breath down anybodys neck who isn't a good ole boy person or business (You got to hide, hide, hide - The old man is down the road) John Fogerty 1984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 osha is a pain in the you know what, another example of government getting way to big, at least we don't have the etest anymore that's a minor miracle, but the government will continue to breath down anybodys neck who isn't a good ole boy person or business (You got to hide, hide, hide - The old man is down the road) John Fogerty 1984 OSHA had nothing to do with the e-test. That would be the EPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 More on this, along with a different proposed fine figure, and an explanation of how OSHA got involved: http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...ESS03/810119991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 Reading the numerous articles, I find it hard to believe that the crew going up the MF lift are not wearing saftey harness nor are they secured to the structure. Whether it is CedarFair, Six Flags or any other opperating park I dont see that not being incorporated. Anyways dont most builders provide the necessary safety equipment for ride inspection or maintence, at cost or negotiated in over all price. How about the B&M Ball, now wouldnt that be fun to take for a spin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 In many, but by no means all or even most cases, safety equipment is provided, but workers may choose not to use it as they see it as burdensome, cumbersome or unneeded. In such cases, the employer is cited for failure to enforce safety rules that are meant to protect even those who do not wish to be protected. In other cases, the equipment is provided but employers either tacitly ignore those who choose not to use it if they are more productive without it...or even encourage them not to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt528 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 osha is a pain in the you know what, another example of government getting way to big, at least we don't have the etest anymore that's a minor miracle, but the government will continue to breath down anybodys neck who isn't a good ole boy person or business You're right...good luck with that, hope you don't fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt528 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Reading the numerous articles, I find it hard to believe that the crew going up the MF lift are not wearing saftey harness nor are they secured to the structure. Whether it is CedarFair, Six Flags or any other opperating park I dont see that not being incorporated. Anyways dont most builders provide the necessary safety equipment for ride inspection or maintence, at cost or negotiated in over all price. How about the B&M Ball, now wouldnt that be fun to take for a spin? Manufacturers are not responsible for safe guarding equipment, because they cannot be sure how it is going to be used once it leaves where it was manufactured...this is especially true for equipment built outside the US. In the end, its the employer's responsbility. Being in the safety business, and seeing so many skeptical comments over the charges, I have some advice – request a copy of the file. As a safety consultant I get a lot of businesses calling me AFTER they get cited by OSHA. And as part of my routine I normally request a copy of the file through the freedom of information act, this always helps me better understand the regulations and what was found onsite. Not always, but a majority of the time I am surprised about how much of the story the company didn’t tell even me, the guy that is supposed to be helping them. This is even more so when willful citations are issued, there’s always more to the story so, I encourage anyone to request a copy of the file, I plan on doing so, even if just to get a better idea on how I can help other companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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