Rollercoast18 Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 I was wondering if PKI should add belts to The Vortex and Top Gun like Face/Off, Drop Zone, and Runaway Reptar? I personally would love it. I rarely ride The Vortex and Top Gun because of the fear I have that the shoulder restraints would come up. When I go up the lift hill I am constantly thinking what if the shoulder restraint is not working correctly and if I am going to fly out of the car. Also, whenever I ride The Vortex the shoulder restraint will give a couple of clicks on the way down the hill and it scares the crap out of me. I don't trust those restraints one bit. If they added belts I would feel so much safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFlagsMasta Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 um... if you're tlaking about The Vortex restraints cliccking then um... bs....cause they don't click at all. probably the reason why Vortex and TG don't have the belts is cause i think arrow has a locks on the restraints (one on each side) so even if one did come undone the restraint would still stay closed.. this is the same concept with TTD at CP. it has 2 locks. a lot of rides have 2 locks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKICoasterFreek Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 LOl um, yeah The Vortex restraints DO click, because i remember my girlfriend and i counting how many clicks it took to get us al the way in, and tight, so yeah they click, but not very loudly. don't think seat bults would be nessesary but maybe a belt the connects to the restraint like on Face/Off i would like that, and it would be much differant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFlagsMasta Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 the clicks must be REALLY quiet cause i've never hard clicking.. it just kinda comes down for me..lol and i think he was talking about Vortex having just the belts like F/O and DZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkidude03 Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 yea The Vortex restraints do click... you can't really hear it. It's not loud like SOB's & FOF's.. I don't think it's necessary for TG to have belts, but maybe The Vortex because when you go into the corkskrews you end up coming out of your seat completely relying on the restraints to hold you in. I think it might be a little harder to check restraints if it had the belts like DZ & Face/Off because they would have to reach between people's legs. I think the The Vortex (next to TG) has the fastest restraint checkers in the park. All I've seen them do is tug on the little handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRickster Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Those arrow restraints have never failed on a coaster. Thats a GREAT track record for them. I think they are fine the way they are. They do click if you cant hear it you can still feel it. Its normal to get a another clip on the hills all of your "extra weight" is thrown agaisnt you and it is compacted so the restrait still can come down. Then when you stop back at the block's it feel's alot tighter then when you left the station lol. (ive did this on sob b4 and my leg's were going numb in the blocks not very fun at all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Ya, I can't see seatbelts on Top Gun and Vortex making any sense. Some coaster's restraints are known to come up on people a couple clicks, that's normal. Arrow's don't though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB/Gun Steve-O Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Its perfectly normal to have a little free play in the restraint. It just shouldn't come up more than a couple inches. And besides, Top Gun doesn't even go upside down, and the G-forces of it pin you in anyway! Heck, I'm not sure you even need a restraint, other than for making sure you don't just hop out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewbari Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 I do not think they need sb's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoast18 Posted March 27, 2004 Author Share Posted March 27, 2004 Actually on the drops, if your restraint fails, you will fly out of the car. I can see where on Top Gun and The Vortex that it would be hard to reach down that far to check the belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Why would you want seatbelts? It would slow down loading time, and if you haven't noticed the only rides that I can remember with those types of seatbelts are where your feet are dangling freely accept for Tomb Raider as I can see why they have them there. They're mainly there so you can't slip out anyways in case you haven't noticed where their located is on your body yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFlagsMasta Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 they could do one of two things i think. 1. put in lap bars like FoF (yes i know they're two different companies but arrow could still make one of their own) and then have the "belt" attached to the harness which then attaches to the car. 2. do the same thing with OTSR's.. just have a "belt" attach from harness to car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRickster Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 ^ arrow isnt really worried about developing for their older restraints they have ran flawless for over 20 years without any problems. Why fix it if it isnt broke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignathan4403 Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 ^ arrow isnt really worried about developing for their older restraints they have ran flawless for over 20 years without any problems. Why fix it if it isnt broke? Yeah.. but were FoF's restraints actually broken? No, they just had alot of complaining about headbanging. The head thing is very minimal on Vortex and the restraints are fine. No need to worry about them flying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRickster Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Fof isnt manufactured by arrow either. But they did have a serious headbanging problem. Vortex would be weird without the otsr the way its made might really hurt your whole upper body instead of just your head if it had the new lap bar's. Think of how your whole upperbody swings around on Adventure Express it could be like that on Vortex without the otsr's. That would suck more then the headbanging. On your 2nd ride on Vortex you know where to put your head to keep it from hurting though lol. People usually learn that quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFlagsMasta Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 well yea i'd agree that there's no point of fixing something that isn't broken but you never know when they will break. say you got a computer and it worked well for 10 years and then crashed and you lost everything well then you're screwed. same thing...a ride could work for 20 years but eventually everything breaks. i'm not saying the restraints are unsafe in any way cause i feel safe on every ride i've ridden at PKI but you NEVER know when something will go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenmayes Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 I know adding belts to The Vortex would definitly give me a safer feeling in my stomach and I would then be able to enjoy the ride more. I dont feel that way on Top Gun tho'. I dont think they are needed at all on Gunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 well yea i'd agree that there's no point of fixing something that isn't broken but you never know when they will break. say you got a computer and it worked well for 10 years and then crashed and you lost everything well then you're screwed. same thing...a ride could work for 20 years but eventually everything breaks. i'm not saying the restraints are unsafe in any way cause i feel safe on every ride i've ridden at PKI but you NEVER know when something will go wrong. Ok for one, how often do you check your computers parts? That could possibly be the worst comparison I have ever seen as the rides are checked on a daily basis, and if something is wrong you report it and they put a red band around the harness saying this seat closed and then it is fixed by the next day if possible. I'm not trying to be mean, but that really is a really bad comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB/Gun Steve-O Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 well yea i'd agree that there's no point of fixing something that isn't broken but you never know when they will break. say you got a computer and it worked well for 10 years and then crashed and you lost everything well then you're screwed. same thing...a ride could work for 20 years but eventually everything breaks. i'm not saying the restraints are unsafe in any way cause i feel safe on every ride i've ridden at PKI but you NEVER know when something will go wrong. I see - how often does someone check every inch of your computer? How often does your computer have to be certified by the state of Ohio to be safe to operate? How often do you have to go through a 5-hour training course just to turn your computer on? How often do you lose your job when you do something that has maybe a 1 in 100 chance of hurting anything? Have you ever heard of a data back-up system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Great minds think alike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoObKiNoS Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Guys this is ridiculous. The restraints are safe. Never failed. Ok? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenmayes Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 ^ Knock on wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignathan4403 Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 ^Steel (Knock on steel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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