CoasterOhio Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Let's count it like this. If the track is one huge continuous track. It is one coaster. Racing or not. If it is two tracks not connected in either way. They are two coasters 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Kennywood's Racer is kind of hard to classify so I will give them a pass on that. You do have to ride it at least twice to get the full experience...I agree with you about the two gravity driven haunted houses. They are by all definitions should be a coaster and it is a crime that there are not more of them left. I remember a portable one being at the Kentucky State Fair back in the 80s. I wonder if there are more of those out there somewhere. Now I am wanting to go to Camden Park again... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 And then there are infinitely more arguments I've seen as to what counts as a coaster and what doesn't. Are Mantis and Rougarou two coasters or one? Do conceptually similar, but less drastic modifications count as one coaster or two? (IE, Vampire at Chessington before and after getting Vekoma trains, or Steel Dragon 2000 before and after getting B&M trains) Is Son of Beast one coaster or two (with loop and without loop). What about Hades? What about more drastic modifications like Steel Phantom/Phantom's Revenge, or RMC Iron Horse treatments? Is Thunder Run (Canada's Wonderland) a coaster or not? Is Surf Dog a coaster? What about Cosmic Chaos? Does a coaster count as two if you ride it backwards (Backwards Racer, Batman backwards, etc.)? Where does that leave Invertigo or Impulse coasters? Do relocations count a second time? What if the experience appreciably changes (such as Head Spin getting new trains when it moved to Carowinds) Ask those questions to a large group of coaster fans, and you'll probably get a huge number of different answers for all of them. That's why there's really no definite way of answering these questions. I tend to be very conservative in my counting. If there is any doubt as to whether it should count, I don't count it. Others will see it differently. Fortunately, it's not a competition, so we don't really need one unified means of counting. Count your coasters in whatever way seems most appropriate to you. Or not at all, if you don't want to. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Personally I would say RMC and major layout changes such as Steel Phantom/Phantom's Revenge would count as a new ride. I can see arguments either way for Mantis/Rougarou but I would lean more to saying that is not a new coaster although it is going to make the ride way different. The rest of that stuff not so much. I can assure you I will never have to worry about counting a Batman backwards...They are plenty enough for me going forward. You are certainly right there is plenty of grey area in classifications but some things would be common sense to most people, but to each their own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontWantToWait42mar0 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 They are two separate coasters that happen to be symmetrical to each other. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I come bearing news! Thunder Road's trains will be sent to KI and KD, 2 to each park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsus Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 ^ Do you mean this news? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XGatorHead 8904 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I say two. The website coaster-count.com says it is two so that is good enough for me.Coaster-count.com also says that the Kennywood Racer is two coasters. It is definitely NOT. Of course, you are welcome to classify KI's Racer however you want, and I know many people on both sides of that argument, but coaster-count (and by extension, RCDB, since that's where their data comes from) is not the be-all and end-all of coaster classification. I mean, neither of them count Devil's Den at Conneaut Lake Park or Haunted House at Camden Park as coasters, and they definitely are by every definition of a roller coaster. Amen! My coaster count ended in a ".5" for two years because I only rode one side of Kennywood's Racer the first time I visited. Two years later, I finally got the other side and brought my count back up to a whole number! As soon as I rode Devil's Den, there was no question in my mind that it's a coaster so I added it as coaster credit #126.5. On the flip side of that, I begrudgingly included Canada's Wonderland's Thunder Run in my count because it's listed as a coaster on rcdb, but I made sure to asterisk that line on my spreadsheet. -Gator, who recently celebrated riding Coaster #150 (Verbolten, Busch Gardens Williamsburg, July 17th, 2015) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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