Outdoor Man

just out of curiousity, why doesn't pki buy a "wild mouse" coaster and place it in Nick Universe and call it "Fairly Odd Coaster." at least all of the coasters in the park currently have some relevance to their existence/name. There is nothing "odd" about The Beastie... it is about the most straight forward coaster in the park. At least the motions of a wild mouse coaster can be described as "odd." I know, dead horse... but.....

you're right... the 1600 number was what I was thinking of.... and wooferbear is right... there is one heck of a steep gorge behind the park. I drove past it one time years ago when I worked in cincinnati... '96 or '97.... but i thought it was behind The Beast, not Son of Beast.... or maybe it encircles the park.... where is it at?

CoastersRZ... i believe you are right. However, if I am not mistaken and someone can correct me here- but of the 752 acres, I think they sold some of it off a few years ago.... but still have a lot undeveloped..... not landlocked like our friends to the north.

Kings Island had a mini Tumblebug at one time in HB didn't they?

WooferBearATL.... don't go starting a riot with the SOB comments.... some on this site are quite passionate of their love of this particular poor investment.

been there, faceoff. My wife and I stayed there over Christmas break two years ago.... and I was a bit appalled at how it really was not clean at all. It was adequate at best.

this may have been mentioned before, but does this signal the beginning of the end for the Kings Island Resort?

and as the mind of a 5-6 year old, which would you feel more accomplishment in conqueroring, The Beastie or Fairly Odd Coaster? and to correct Jasper... The Beast will be renamed the "Very Odd Coaster" and be painted Barney purple. Son of Beast, the "Fairly Bumpy Coaster." Racers, the "Fiarly Old Coasters." FOF, the "Fairly Dark Coaster." Top Gun, "Fairly Neglected Coaster." Cobra, "Fairly Dismembered Coaster." (I hope we all can take a joke). Will I take my daughter to ride Fairly Odd Coaster, yes. Will the name change make any of my days shorter or longer, no. In the large scheme of things- this really isn't even a spec on the map of important things.... I type my opinion to say I think it's a dumb move.

i don't know WooferBearAtl.... i think we stand alone on this one.

I'll have to agree to disagree with you on this one. I still think it's a "fairly terrible" name change for one of the original coasters to the park.

i like your comeback Combat.... creative.... but honestly, as a kid (8 years old perhaps)... which are you going to get more excited that you conquerored, Beastie or Fairly Odd Coaster? I would have been embarrassed and made something else up.

you're right. i'm al for changing the name of The Beast too. and maybe even The Racer while we're at it.

I remember being able to say with a great deal of pride that even though I was not old enough to ride The Beast that I had rode The Beastie. I think the theming for it being the "Jr." to the "Sr." was excellent. hmmm- maybe once Nick Universe expands to encompass all of th eold RiverTown section we could be looking forward to a Barney colored 7,400 foot record-breaking roller coaster called something creative like the "Kinda Cooky Coaster." Soon, my daughter is going to be of Roller Coaster age, and just as the HB characters came and went, so too will the "Fairly Odd" franchise, and I would much prefer her first coaster experience being on the legendary "Beastie" than the "Fairly Odd Coaster." There has to be enough subscribers to this site to cause some stir to get PKI to review this. Moderators.... is there a chance of this happening in the least?

Fairly Odd Coaster. What great respect to call a 33 year old coaster "odd." Marketing genius! Must have come from the same minds that thought it was a great idea to trade the most popular player and public relations machine for the Reds to the competition for an unknown, problem laden pitcher (sorry, still sore about that one).

Good Friday.... many people off work/school.

as a side note, i was quite unaware that each of the building "blocks" represented a particular European culture. I guess I knew, just was never aware of which went to which.... this is detailed in CoastersRZ's post of the 1991 Winterfest brochure. Do they even try to make the distinctions anymore? the french village is now a tribute to Seattle (starbucks). I'm all for an IS makeover to mimick the Paramount Studios backlot. sorry, off my own topic.

i liked the toy factory show too. It was a good and complex production. Someone mentioned that this particular show was performed during the previous WinterFest run. Is that accurate? I don't remember who mentioned that.

the elephant walk almost circles the Delerium footprint. I wonder if anyone has any more similar pictures and corresponding pictures from the same angles to see differences over the years.

is that construction of the Festhaus on the left?

i hope they do drop the price.... even if a little. Newsletter subscribers did get a great deal later in the month.... but it wasn't just hand delivered. For those who missed the "thrills".... then you want to go to Kings Island in the July, not WinterFest in December.

actually i just looked on the RCDB site.. and the press release is still on there as well- but maybe they removed it because it was not technically under construction yet. who knows. I would like to think that a more impressive ride announcement may come, but with the investment in overhauling Nick Universe it'll probably be August they announce anything big.

I think PKI's website announces the arrival of another "Family Class Coaster for Thrill seeking families"... i think is the exact quote from the website. Maybe it won't called Avatar though.

I do remember the elephant walk. all you did was go around in a circle. I don't remember it's exact location but i think it would occupy the current Delerium spot. WooferAtl could correct me on this. I used to have that map. if I'm not mistaken it is the 1983 map.

i noticed that too... the Avatar was on there shortly after the press release was published.... ond now it's no where to be found on the site.

my answer is a little off-topic and may not necessarily refer to PKI, but the only entities that "lose" in the politically correct (or religiously correct) arena are those who try to cater to all. If it's a Christmas tree, don't skirt the issue, make it a tree. If it's a Menorah, make it a Menorah. If you don't intend on it being anything.... then don't pretend it's nothing. To defend PKI, they have never called it "ChristmasFest"... it's always been WinterFest.... so as to not confuse all holidays into one. This particular critique of mine aside.... it was a quality event that had some thought and investment behind it... overall i'd give it a 9 on a 10 scale... many more positives than negatives.