Everything posted by Outdoor Man
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Worst park on earth!
I will have to try and find my pictures from Gorky Park (Moscow, Russia) in 1993. It was to have been the Soviet Union's gift to its people for entertainment and recreation (i guess). Wife and I are packing to move soon, so those pictures should be easy to find. It was almost like walking through Coney Island after Kings Island opened.... at full price.
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Lesourdsville Lake/ americana
I haven't been to pki yet this year so I can't comment on certainty- but in my own little sarcastic bit- I know that Americana had it's share of "carnival" rides... maybe NU could clean house and exand.
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PKI Slowly Killing Itself
not that ride branding is all that important but if the rides themes were changed after an acquisition, to most they would always be the Paramount name(s) for a while. To re-theme Top Gun to Thunder Road.... OK, maybe someday, but I would subconsciously always refer to it as Top Gun. Now, assume that Cedar Fair is one of the interested parties.... would they buy the naming rights? Everything at Gauega Lake was changed, even beyond the Warner Brothers themed items. I know they probably really didn't have an option to retain the Warner Brothers tags but I would see their motif running consistant with their other parks, much like Paramount did with all of the KECO parks.
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Brady Bunch PKI
yea, it's pretty much there are NO CONSEQUENCES to any action you may do. Do whatever you like, because at the end of the day, it's someone else's fault.
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PKI Slowly Killing Itself
for what it's worth, pki did have a rather expensive year. a new coaster, despite what you think of IJST... it is still new and costs serious $$$$. SOB continues to be a maintanence money hog, WinterFest was a huge investment, and the remodeling of NU took some funding. Though I agree about the shows.... it would not have taken much investment to run a new show. what's up with FOF not being listed as a main attraction... can someone explain what that means?
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PKI Sold?
agreed. and I am only speaking to the topic of those that are saying that the sale has already been closed..... and just not announced yet. they may have had conversations, but I would think that if anything has been near-finalized there would be some rumblings of the sale somewhere on reputable "business" sites. not fan sites There is nothing out there. But I do like the endorsements that could come from a P&G ownership.... Boomerang Bay now themed with Dial soap (is that P&G???) and Tide detergent (I hope that is P&G as well).... couldn't tell you which brands are there's.
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PKI Sold?
oh... wooferbear... come back up to Ohio for a spell. I think the extended forecast here calls for 8 of the next 10 days to have rain to compliment the 5 consecutive days of rain we've already had. everyone needs to stay on alert for an increase in suicides. stay away from sharp objects and cliffs. It has been a miserable day here... for me to do google searches and by other means on this topic is truly sad for me. I would think that if a pending sale was immenent that there would be commentary on it somewhere on websites like: CBS Corporate, Wall Street Journal, Cedar Fair LP, Charles Schwab, Smartmoney, CNBC. No one is reporting anything other than the original announcement from back in January. None of those sites even mention a possible conversation of any nature to a sale. My wife and I have stock in Cedar Fair (stock code: FUN.... nice touch). Now our 75 shares don't hold a drop of water in the hat of their corporate affairs, but we are able to login to the Cedar Fair site and download webcasts of corporate meetings. Yes in my boredom over the weekend I listened to reports on 1st quarter earnings and the operating season outlook. Sorry folks, there was NO mention of a pending Paramount Park acquisition. they did spend a good 5-10 minutes discussing the operating dependability (or lack thereof) of TTD and speculation of maintenance costs for the next three years to operate it. so if there is a pending sale to CF coming (and who knows, there may be) it is so secret that they don't even talk about in board meetings.
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Brady Bunch PKI
according to Time Warner Cable channel guide.... LATE SUNDAY / EARLY MONDAY at 1am
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PKI Sold?
not saying it hasn't happened, but the first place that would have such a report would be the CBS Corporate Press Releases, Wall Street Journal Online, SEC filings, etc. Didn't see anything. They do confirm that a transaction is taking place (not completed) but declines to comment on interested parties, as from what I am ready there are several, which may confirm a breakup of the Paramount Park system..... or not.
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Flight of Fear In Trouble
uh.... what ride is the skycoaster?
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The Big One
have to agree. with an impending sale, CBS isn't likely to allow a large investment to go out. And a new owner... chances are it will be a year or two after the sale that we see something large. HOWEVER, whatever is on the table for 2007 most likely has already been sent to the drawing board and is probably in production. Most of the large announcements come in mid-July and my guess is multi-million $$ investment conversations don't start in May. I was watching the TOP AMUSEMENT PARK show on the Travel Channel (i think) last night.... IJST at PKI got the #2 award for best new steel coaster of 2005. good job for the PKI planners... but it must have been a slow year for coasters because while IJST is good... I would not have placed it at a #2... or #3 for that matter. the post about SOB being hidden... I could not agree more. Outside of the obvious roughness of the ride. The designers i feel did not use the terrain and woods nearly enough in the design. The "atmosphere" of The Beast is partly what makes it a great ride. SOB is about 75-100' above ground most of the time and makes almost no use of the trees or geography. as far as when the next large coaster investment comes.... I'm sorry, but if I were a betting man I would say we're looking at 2009. We'll have a better chance at re-themes of FOF or good flat rides until that time. I am probably wrong, but that's my opinion anyway. and when it does i hope they don't try and find a "record breaker"... just a flat-out innovative ride that has good "WOW" factor.
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Paramount Six Flags Kings Island
there is a huge discrepancy between those employees who enjoy what they do and those who it seems their parents TOLD them to "get a job.... and you have to get it here." I live pretty much in a hickville area... and students in this area would be over enthusiastic to work in such an environment.
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Paramount Six Flags Kings Island
part of the problem of NU... and I haven't been there yet to see, but the "paramount" in KI announced a large expansion for NU... then announced they were selling the park system. So, it is possible that due to that news funding for NU might have been scaled back... and, again I haven't been there, nor am in the "know" so this might have been the plan all along. problems with the employees goes once step past the supervisors. Too many of the supervisors are college students just a few years ahead of their High School understudies.... and too many of them are concerned with being a "cool" sup than being firm. Employees that break the rules "IN UNIFORM" with lewd behavior need to have their a## hauled to the Adm. building to be wrote up, fined, and fired.
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Paramount Six Flags Kings Island
a tough thing about a seasonal park is the turnover that occurs during an "off-season." Parks in florida and much of the southern half of the US being open year-round don't have that problem.... employees durations overlap. It can only be expected that a seasonal park is going to have some rough edges in the early weeks. It would be awful if you paid regular admission for what it appeared opening weekend was though.
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Ticket Booths Demolished
I'm still trying to get used to the fact that we need to go through metal detectors to get into an amusement park. Though to be honest, probably should have had them years ago. in 1996 a group of us "singles" went to the park. And some dumba## in our group brought a flippin handgun with him..... and showed us. Some people do some VERY dumba## stuff! I hate the idea of them... but they do serve a purpose.
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Paramount Parks Deal in 2nd Half of Year
but wouldn't we have some great camper selections though?
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Where would you put a ride?
woofer... ActionZone is too far away from a German theme.... Coney Mall I think could undergo a HUGE transformation and buy back into the heritage that got the park there in the first place.
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Paramount Parks Deal in 2nd Half of Year
I heard it's that "Couch's Campers" guy that bought Americana. He's going to doze over the new resort and restore the campgrounds, put a mini ferris wheel by the sign, and line the front of the parking lot with campers.... that could just be heresay though
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What To Bring Back?
Zodiac went to Australia.... and is who-knows-what since Australia Wonderland went kaput in 2004
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parking
Are you serious.... $10 parking? ok, this is going to place a date on me... but I remember $5 parking.... maybe even $3.... and Winterfest was free. Here's a business opp. Buy a field somewhere around Kings Mills. slap down some gravel, charge $5 a car and run a shuttle to PKI and the Beach.
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What To Bring Back?
and the FC pad is a great piece of real estate for.... something/anything, but has sat empty or useless for over 10 years.... that's astouding. btw- why did they remove Skylab anyway?
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What To Bring Back?
Woofer... from your post on the previous age, I am nearly embarrased to say that you are speaking of "my day" as well. NU got it's "Extreme Makeover" this year... a good and inexpensive project that the new owners could do for next year is to Makeover Coney Mall and heavily theme it to the original Coney Island experience.... sprinkled with the new attractions. As mentioned on many of these posts... the cost of these flats are relatively inexpensive as far as attractions go. It would be a "hoot" if they would re-construct the (help me here) Shooting Star roller Coaster from the old park. It could be a HEAVY theme area... and something that is 100% Cincinnati with no copyright infringements and could transverse between 1000 different owners. fyi--- as a marketing / business development person myself, I have to admit that the new owners, should they be more "local" would do good to pay some attention to some of the ideas that are on this site. Granted, some of the ideas posted on here are pretty outlandish and wouldn't have a snowballs chance in he## of working- but there are a lot of GREAT ideas that are discussed on this board. A KI museum... that's almost a no-brainer; every other park has one. some of the theming discussions.... some of them are down right good and on target... plus 99.9% of the posters on here are creative and after all "fans" of the park.... (some almost to a fault). my opinion.
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Places to eat outside the park
forgot... street address 12090 Mason-Montgomery Road Zip: 45249
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Places to eat outside the park
But with Chipotle, to be REAL festive you must come down on Friday, May 5.... Cinco de Mayo.... Then you'll have something! Nearest buffet would be the Golden Corral on Mason Montgomery Road. It is on the Fields Ertel exit. Coming south on I-71, the exit comes on to Mason-Montgomery Rd. Turn left off the exit and go under the interstate, past Fields-Ertel Rd. and I believe it is on the left just past Governors Way.
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2007
uh, someone can correct me on this, but SOB repairs are probably being funded by their lawsuit filed against the builders and may not have anything to do with day-to-day operations. But that's just my unqualified thinking.