MaestroMan

Sorry to reopen this thread but Ive been pondering this over the past week. I remebered other characters from the Phantom Theater that could deffienatly be used on Boo Blasters. First off I know of one that is being used during haunt and that is the Phantom Theater Mouse in Board to Death. Also Kings Island could use the non-animatronics from Phantom Theater on Boo Blasters. We could use the poet from the beginning of Phantom and we could use the Mummy, Centorion, and my personal favorite i really wish they'd use him the Gargogyle. The Mummy could be put close to the track to reach out for you. The poet could be in the beginning. The Centorion next to the Knights. And the Gargogyle could be used anywhere, I'd really like to see him again used somewhere. Really this little "Tribute" to Phantom would be very cool I think and would take about 15 minutes considering that they are statues except for The Mummy. Hope to see something along these lines. At least get them out for Haunt and put them on display.

Yes, two very well done commercials of a Kings Island past.The Bat commercial is phenomenal, and even shows a off-ride video of The Bat. They shouldve aired that last year to promote the New Bat. All the TV's of Ohio and folks down in Kentucky couldve seen a memory of their childhood or perhaps create a new one. I know it always make me smile whenever i hear some little kid asking his parents if he can ride The Bat.

I guess only time will tell, we'll have to see what happens. Im just trying to help make it more enjoyable.

I sure hope so.

So your saying their is hope regardless of the significance of it.

Do you think they could play that? I also thought they could include the Maestro saying What are you looking at?!?

That classic horror theme is what I'd like to hear. Thats very generic and they could just play that in the queue line while waiting. The song is called Tocata/Fugue by Bach

You got me Terp.

Yes, I do agree with you. But dont you think it would be well worth it to pay the rights to play the music? it cant cost anymore then it did to paint The Bat.

Thank you for all the feedback. Again I really appreciate it. Yes I do realize the current state of the Phantom Theater animatronics. I also realize most of them dont fit the theme of Boo Blasters. But I think the Maestro and Boocifer are pretty similar and would work well together. There is in total from the ride at least four Maestro's from what I can remeber and one of them (the one behind the picture in the beginning of the ride) didnt move. One of them could probaly be squeezed in there somewhere although the balcony Maestro would probaly be the best fit. And I know bringing back the ride wont happen but Im not trying to do that. Really all Im trying to do is bring back elements from the Phantom Theater but really all Id like to see is the queue line music to the original one played when Phantom was there. Id love to see Maestro in the balcony but that probaly will never happen. And then the spooky bust faces need to be reincorporated to their original glory. I do realize that the park has a certain time slot and cap-ex but changing the music and removing those god-awful TVs wouldnt take longer then probaly a few hours or less of programming. All the park would need to do is install some speakers and play the Bach compostion and then that would be all. That is a simple,easy change that the park could easily do in a matter of a day. As in terms of the spooky boards. Removing them is easy but recreating that effect would take a little bit of effort and money. It wouldnt take very long but it would cost something though i have no idea how much? But that affect needs to be there. Just pay for a mirror and a light and the affect is returned to its "Peppers Ghost" self. Thats it really adding the Phantom Theater soundtrack along with maybe a few of the chracters voices would be easy as well. Again minor,small but important changes. I really think the park could do this for this upcoming season its not like brining back Son of Beast. All we are doing is adding queue line music and new Spooky Faces to the hallway. Along with maybe the Phantom Theater soundtrack and fixing what needs to be fixed, Hell Id even volunteer to go up there and fix the changes if it needs to be done. I really,really hope that the park makes these changes for 2015. Again were not bringing it back rather were morphing old and new. If we show them all this support it just might get done.

I'll send as many emails or whatever needs to be done to get this plan into action thank you so much for any additional ideas and support. Let's all push for this and make it a Phantom and Maestro Season at Kings Island! Thank You!

I really hope enough people see this to draw the parks intention i really need the communities support and hopefully we can change the Ride. And yes the Tvs are a bit stupid and out of place for that ride. While waiting in line for The Beast I love hearing 80's tunes like Michael Jackson's "Bad" and Loverboy's "Working for the Weekend" But not in an old Haunted Castle. There just needs to be Pipe Organs and The Maestro's taunting thank you for the support lets really pull for these changes i appreciate all the support and whoever reads it.

And ill do that for future refrence Im sorry I know it was really long. Thank you for your imput Im sorry again it took me like and hour and a half to type it.

I agree with you 100% but unfortunatly i doubt the park is willing to put that much money and effort into recreating Phantom Theater. I know asking to recreate it is a little bit far fetched. But I think asking to put the music back into it and retheme the queue line with organ music and Maestro laughter is very resonable. First off it wouldnt cost anything you would just need to change the rides music and change the queue line to incorporate Organ music over a loud speaker. I think by adding in a few PT props and Phantom Theater animatronics considering they store them in Boo Blasters is also very resonable. Even adding just one, like maybe the Furnace Guys or Helga Bolvine or Houdelini or Maestro or any of them would make the ride so much more fun for adults and kids. Really the only thing that I would really like to see is Fixed Blasters and Organ Music with the Maestro's voice and laughter, along with the Phantom Theater soundtrack during the ride. Adding him saying you'll be back at the end would be very very cool and fun for the whole family. Waiting in line and stepping into a haunted castle playing classic Dracula themed music will entertain the entire family for years to come. Thanks for your feedback! I really appreciate it. I have sent Don an email about it. I'll do whatever is needed to make it happen.

Well what do you guys think about these ideas? Do you think the park will actually listen to anything? Im gonna try as hard as humanly possible to help make these changes. I appreciate any feedback or ideas that y'all have. And thanks Terp and JubJester for the likes. I think these minor simple changes will go a long way to help upgrade the lacking Dark Ride Department. Thanks Again for any feedback. I really posted this to see what y'all thought. Thanks!

Well sorry to reopen this topic but i Thought id make a list of all the remnants since it hasnt really been done all the way fully. 1. Son of Beast's Station along with its chain lift mechanism. also the original trains are behind Dinosaurs Alive if you ride the back seat of the Red racer (i think) and look youll see them. Also the newer trains were used for haunt last year the Blue ones but they took off the Son of Beast sticker not sure if y'all saw them or not. 2. The lights from Wild County Safari are directly under Congo Falls. 3. There are several Footers from the original Bat under Vortex and right next to the Station. Also the matience doors have two holes in them obviously to incorporate The Bat's suspened track. Along with The Bat's Station (except it was Orange not Blue.) and the stairs leading up the first lift hill on Vortex are from The Bat. 4. Going back to Son of Beast the queue line is still there and also whats left of the Track sticks out of the Station. 5. The original Enchanted Voyage entrance is still there. Its next to The Great Pumpkin Coaster Its the big mural of Snoopy or the Pumpkin Patch. Its doors are there and its used for Carnevil during Haunt. 6. Flight Commaders Queue is still there and I think is used for KillMart (correct me if Im wrong) 7. Phantom Theater's entire queue line is present along with the Maestro's Balcony and Spooky faces that I think were supposed to be Maestro are in the Hallway. They've got boards on them and glowing red eyes and are all from Phantom Theater. (My Profile Picture) is one of them. who looks like Maestro. Also Kings Island has about all of the Animatronics and the Phantom Theater Mouse is used in Board to Death. Along with the Boiler Room furnace in Slaughterhouse Reloded towards the end of that maze. And I think theres a few Phantom Theater things in Madame Fatales Cavern of Terror. 8. There may be a Few King Cobra Footers present behind Slingshot next to Banshee but they may have been removed although they were quite small and out of the way of Banshee's footers. Also King Cobra's Chain along with other parts of it might be in Flight of Fear. Althought the trains from King Cobra were moved back in 2008 to Kings Dominion to be used as spare parts for Shockwave. A clone of King Cobra down in Virginia. Those trains used to be in Flight of Fear but now i Think they are next to Volcano The Blast Coaster from what Ive read. 9. The Paramount's Kings Island trams are clearly visible from the Top of the Eiffel Tower. 10. Der Spinning Keggers have to Flag poles next to Viking Fury. 11. Sky Ride's Footer now has a tree in it but is still next to Adventure Express and behind the restaurant that used to be Bubba Gumps. I forget its present name but I think its Hanks Burrito Shack. 12. Top Gun's Stars are still there. If you turn around when you first step out of The Bat's entrance tunnel/Old Son of Beast tunnel you will see them. 13. SkyLab's queue line is now a prize storage room facility. 14. Tomb Raider The Ride's photo booth is still next to the same buidling that once housed it Madame Fatales Cavern of Terror. 15. The go cars from Thunder Alley are visible from Firehawk's queue line and lift hill. 16. A majority of the Scooby doo and the Haunted Castle Props and Cardboard cutouts are used on Boo Blasters on Boo Hill. 17. The track from Phantom Theater is still there but the actuation of the Cars switched. But its still the same track from Phantom. 18. Also I have no idea what happened to the Phantom Theater Cars maybe someone can help me on this they used to be on display at the Bandstand before Blood Drum's became a hit. 19. Not really a remnant but the sign for Invertigo along with the actual Station is still colored to represent the Face/Off days. 20. Many of the Wild County Safari buildings remain except you have no way of accessing them. Along with the Trams from the Safari are at Jungle Jims down the road. 21. Cars from the Jetson's Ride were also on display next to the Eiffel Tower and next to the Son of Beast trains. 22. The Crypt's seats are stored inside Flight of Fear and The Bat Demon is used for Haunt. 23. And does anybody know if there are any Screamin' Demon remnants? Ive never found any. 24. Also Im fairly sure the old Flight of Fear cars are stored inside Flight of Fear and there are some also behind Banshee. Behind Son of Beast's old Rosebowl Double Helix, near the Station of Son of Beast now. 25. The Flying Dutchman's launch pad is now the entrance to The Adventure Express. 26. I cant think of anyting else except for througout the park there are various things that still say Paramount's Kings Island on them like the Trams and other things if you look hard enough. 27. Well I hope you enjoy this list and hope you go find some of the Remnants or maybe learn about ones you didnt know about. Thanks for reading.

Well happy new year KIC its been a while since ive posted anything i just want to share my ideas of how we can upgrade our much broken ride Boo Blasters on Boo HIll. Well there was one thing that they did fix and that was Boocifer he actually worked at the end of last season. But this ride needs so major TLC. Now dont worry im not gonna start another Bring back Phantom Theater post because i know thats pointless. What i will sugest though is four basic things. 1. While waiting in the queue line instead of Fun TVs lets go back to organ music instead. I know everybody just loves to hear Let it Go for the 100th time while waiting in line for a haunted castle ride but i think we could all benefit from Kings Island installing some more loud speakers and just playing music from Bach instead. You know that song that sounds like its from Dracula that one. Heck maybe you could even put the Maestros voice in there somewhere. Have him taunt the guest without actually being there (then it really would be Phantom Theater). 2. When entering the long dark musty hallway for some reason Paramount thought it would be a good idea to cover the spooky faces with boards. Why? I can see how that wouldnt have fit Scooby. But now I think we should reincorporate sorry if thats spelled wrong, that peppers ghost effect. You know where the faces followed you as you walked. That would be so cool and its such a cool affect to go to waste it would deffienatly fit the Boo Blasters theme. It also would be fairly cheap but at least remove those boards. 3. During the ride there are several things that need fixing but mainly the blasters themselves. I rode it a few times last season and both times the guns hit nothing basically that ruins the whole ride for the kids and also the gimmick of the ride. Also the music is terrible because there really isnt any. This is where the Phantom Theater soundtrack could come in handy Kings Island owns the rights to it just play it over the loud speakers while ridding and its already ten thousand times better in the audio department. And lastly this isnt really necessary but i really strongly think we could use a few of the Phantom Theater Animatronics or Props on the ride. I know they dont look the best but they still have a charm to them. Just stick the Maestro or Houdelini in there somewhere you wouldnt even have to turn them on because some of them didnt move anyway and play there voices and Boocifer and Maestro would go great together. Ive always immagined Maestro at the part with the skeltons. Any of them would be fine considering they store them in the same building and the ride would really be awesome for the whole family. Or at least use the animatronics somewhere. They arent used for haunt anymore but they could be great theming for The Bat or Banshee. But keeping them inside would be best, They could just be like backrounds for the main attraction. And hopefully Maestro could go back to his empty balcony but really the only ideas that will probaly be reasonable and might work is the music and maybe the spooky faces. Really the organ music is key here and the Maestros voice would make it better to enhance to queue line experinece. Again the Dracula song. And you could have the Maestros voice at the end saying You'll be back! Overall I think these are fairly reasonable changes to help the struggling dark ride and they could be done quick and easy without little time, effort, or money. The music change in the queue and on the ride is simply a change in what music you are or arent playing and could easily be done but i really stress the queue line theming I really only want the organ music back while waiting in line. Well what do y'all think? I really think we should push for this considering we brought back The Bat and the Flying Eagles (sort of) so lets make it a major more enjoyably dark ride for everyone to enjoy with a little touch of help from The Phantom Theater. Thanks if you read even half of this Im sorry for making it a rant and going on forever but I really think this is a reasonable change that I hope the park listens to at least with the queue line organ music and im really passionate about Phantom and Dark Rides in general. And also congrats to the Buckeyes for bringing the trophy back home. Thank You that'll be all i hope they'll consider it.

Yes, and also abuse was a key factor. Kids would throw food at the Maestro in the Balcony and they would stick gum and spit on the glass in the beginning scenes. This wasn't likely to happen with younger kids though.

And when I road Boo Blasters, I listened to the Phantom Theater soundtrack on my Ipod. Better then whatever they're playing.

Very nostalgic

I didn't know where it was until I saw it at the end in plain sight just sitting there against the wall. I was very happy to see it again.

I also got pictures of the Phantom faces in the hallway and the Maestro's vacant balcony.

Had a great time at haunt Saturday. Road The Beast,Bat,Vortex,Racer,Adventure Express, and Boo Blasters. Then I did Board to Death, Slaughterhouse, and Madame Fatales. Didn't see the cannon from PT in there and I didn't catch the mouse in Board to Death. But I saw the Phantom Theater Furnace in Slaughterhouse, I didn't get a picture of it but it is pretty beat up and covered with blood. But it was very cool to see it again.

At least we have that.