KIghostguy

Thank you Frank for sharing your memories of that horrible and tragic night. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

So, wait: you all want me to post a "fact-check" post of Shaggy's original post?

Lucky! One of my dreams (though I don't think it will ever happen) is to walk through Haunted Mansion with the lights on.

Terpy, I agree. However, all the newspaper accounts report that John McCann and John Harter were pronounced dead on the spot. The reason why the victims of Black Sunday were not pronounced dead on the spot were because when they were lifted into helicopters, they were breathing. You do have an excellent point, though.

Here are all of my sources. “Fatal Freak Accidents at Kings Island Probed”(1991, June 11) Greene County Observer-Reporter. Pages A1 and A2. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2519&dat=19910611&id=3LFdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=uF0NAAAAIBAJ&pg=5705,1640160&hl=en “Teen Dies From Fall at Amusement Park” (1983, May 16) The Bryan Times. Page A1. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=799&dat=19630510&id=eZJPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mVEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4078,4112870&hl=en “Kings Island Accidents Fatal to Three” (1991, June 10) The Pittsburgh Press. Page A4. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19910610&id=CR0hAAAAIBAJ&sjid=_GMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2073,6700111&hl=en “Lions Kill ‘Safari’ Ranger” (1976, July 26) Florence Times. Page A8 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1842&dat=19760726&id=2xosAAAAIBAJ&sjid=FckEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5177,4364663&hl=en “Amusement Park is Fined $23,500 in Pond Deaths” (1991, July 17) Park City Daily News. Page 3A. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1696&dat=19910716&id=wvEaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xkcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2873,2649358&hl=en “Part of Ohio Park Closed; Three Deaths Investigated” (1991, June 11) The Pittsburgh Press, Page A7. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19910610&id=CR0hAAAAIBAJ&sjid=_GMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3996,6838532&hl=en “Ex-Toledoan One of Three Killed in Two Accidents at Kings Island” (1991, June 10) The Toledo Blade, Page A1. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19910610&id=kdQpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JQMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2254,2742860&hl=en “2 Kings Island Fatalities Preventable, OSHA Says” (1991, June 13) Pittsburgh Press, Page A16 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19910612&id=Ch0hAAAAIBAJ&sjid=_GMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2875,7943016&hl=en “Restraints Faulty on Ride on Which Woman Died” (1991, July 26) Toledo Blade, Page 3 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19910726&id=u0dPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DgMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2250,6594339&hl=en “Alcohol Factor Studied in Fatal Plunge at Park” (1991, June 16) Toledo Blade, Page A8 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19910616&id=l9QpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JQMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5924,4291668&hl=en “Safety Changes Made on Park Ride” (1992, March 24) Toledo Blade, Page 9 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19920324&id=gFpPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RAMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5398,6377180&hl=en “Amusement Park Fatal Accidents Don’t Deter Visitors” (1991, June 11) Bowling Green Daily News, Page A7 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1696&dat=19910611&id=QxkhAAAAIBAJ&sjid=m0cEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6723,2943537&hl=en “Services Wednesday” (1983, May 17) Bryan Times, Page 5 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=799&dat=19830517&id=gZJPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mVEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1475,4232633&hl=en “Ranger Killed in Lion Park” (1976, July 26) Milwaukee Journal, Page 3 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19760726&id=RPwjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jH4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4136,2824289&hl=en “Lions Fatally Attack Ranger” (1976, July 26) Ludington Daily News, Page 1 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=110&dat=19760724&id=-l8vAAAAIBAJ&sjid=2dwFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5723,1757128&hl=en “Causes Sought in Amusement Park Deaths” (1991, June 11) Toledo Blade, Page 13 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19910610&id=kdQpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JQMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4334,2974430&hl=en “Death at Graduation Party” (1983, May 15) New York Times, Page Number Unknown. http://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/15/us/death-at-graduation-party.html “Despite Recent Deaths, Parks Say Rides are Safe” (1991, August 6) Deseret News, Page Number Unknown. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/176541/DESPITE-RECENT-DEATHS-PARKS-SAY-RIDES-ARE-SAFE.html?pg=all “Three Die in Mishaps at Ohio Fun Park Over Weekend” (1991, June 11) Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Page 2. https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=X-4NAAAAIBAJ&sjid=b24DAAAAIBAJ&dq=candy+taylor&pg=4338,2702514&hl=en “Key Moments in the Park’s History” (2001, day and month unknown) Cincinnati Enquirer, page number unknown. http://enquirer.com/editions/2001/04/06/KIbox598x938.jpg “3 Die at Kings Island-2 Were Electrocuted, One Killed in Fall” (1991, June 10) Cincinnati Post, page 1A. Found on infoweb.newsbank.com “3 Die, One Hurt at Park-Electrocution, Fall, at Kings Island” (1991, June 10) Dayton Daily News, Page 1A. Found on infoweb.newsbank.com “Kings Island Deaths Baffle Park Officials-Investigators Study Ride, Pond Area to Uncover Causes” (1991, June 11) Columbus Dispatch, Page 1A. Found on infoweb.newsbank.com “Kings Island Ranger Killed by Lion; Found in Park Safari Section” (1976, July 25) Toledo Blade, Page A2. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19760725&id=IbQyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TQIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3932,940660&hl=en “Ranger Killed by Lion had been Injured Previously” (1976, July 28) Park City Daily News, Page 38. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1696&dat=19760728&id=FMAaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=10YEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6820,3531594&hl=en “Amusement Park Injury Rate Low, Study Shows-A Freakish Series of Events” (1991, June 11) The Columbus Dispatch, Page 6C. Found on infoweb.newsbank.com “Delaware Teen Falls to Death at Kings Island” (1983, May 15) The Columbus Dispatch, Page 1C. “Fall Victim May Have Been Seeking Thrill” (1983, May 16) The Columbus Citizen-Journal, Page 19. “Track Star Remembered as Gentle Giant off the Field” (1983, May 16) The Columbus Dispatch, Page 1B.

Yea, I heard that vandalism was pretty prevalent as well. I guess people thought that since this isn't Disney, the consequences woudn't be as big as if they had vandalized, say, Pirates of the Caribbean.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Never mind, I think I figured out how to quote. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Thank you stashua. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

TB, how do you quote? Oh, and Terpy, in the case of KI deaths, all of my sources are newspaper articles written at the time of the accident. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Terpy-like I said, 99% of Shaggy's info is correct, except that people have been pronounced dead inside the park. I also was never intending to pick a fight, particularly with Shaggy, I just love clearing up misinformation.

I thought I was the only one who did that! I always think this is "Cleaning up Tower Johnny" too [emoji23][emoji23] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

He's buried in Oak Grove Cemetery in Delaware, if you'd like to pay him a visit. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

He is, but with less mystery involving how he died, Existential. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

If anyone's experienced any paranormal activity around the Tower, feel free to share as well. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

If anyone reading this was at KI Grad Night in 1983, feel free to share your memories of that horrible day. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Thanks Maestro! Yeah, I thought your memory would be foggy, PT has been closed for 13 years. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Awesome! Thanks Maestro! So, no Williard Warbler, Lionel Burymore, etc.? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I don't know, maybe . Most of his info is correct, but Tower Johnny, John McCann and possibly the anonymous fountain man and Thomas Cahill were officially pronounced dead in the park. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Great IndyGuy! There's one more I just remembered from inside the park. A few years back, they weren't running the blue water slide on Thunder Falls at Soak City, and two girls were talking to each other about how the reason why it was closed was because people kept on seeing Missouri Jane riding down the slide. I don't know what it is about me overhearing weird things girls talk about KI. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I was eating in Chick Fil A (not the Kings Island one) and some girls at the neighboring table were talking about how they are going to remove Drop Tower because a man was decapitated while riding it. I didn't interrupt because I thought it would be rude, but...yeah. That's Mason kids for you. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Anytime Coaster Directed! Kings Island has such an interesting history, and for some reason it irks me when people get historical facts wrong. I live setting the record straight. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

EDIT: Pretty much all of this is wrong. Check out kingsislandghosts.blogspot.com for the full, accurate stories. Sorry if this has already been written about, but here is Kings Island's death tally: In 1976, a 20 year old ranger on Lion Country Safari, John McCann, ran from his jeep into the lion area without his shotgun to use the bathroom. He was mauled by the lions and died on the spot. 1983: Tower Johnny. I already covered this in greater detail here: http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php/topic/31433-clearing-up-tower-johnny/ 1986: a 26 year old man dives into the Royal Fountains from the bandstand. He breaks his neck and dies. 1989: 39 year old Thomas Cahill is a park employee walking through the parking lot to get back to his car in a thunder storm-while carrying his tuba. He is struck by lightning and dies. 1991: 20 year old William Haithcoat and 20 year old park security guard Darrell Robertson are electrocuted by a faulty aerator pump in the Oktoberfest Pond trying to save 22 year old Timothy Benning, who survived the incident. 37 minutes later, 32 year old Candy Taylor, who is riding on Fight Commander passes out (she was very, very drunk), slides beneath her restraints into the unnocupied seat next her and falls to her death. 2003: A woman has a heart attack on Top Gun (now The Bat) and died the next day in the hospital. 2009: A man has a heart attack on Firehawk and dies later that day in a hospital. One story that I have heard but I cannot validate was that a six year old boy died of natural causes in 1978 while riding what's now Race for Your Life, Charlie Brown. Kings Island is a very safe place. Most of the incidents above were blamed on the victim. If I have made any errors, feel free to correct me. Sorry if this has already been covered on this thread before, but I love clearing up the truths on things. -Ghost Guy EDIT: in 2007, a man died in the hospital a day after riding Son of Beast. He had a pre-existing medical condition. SECOND EDIT: The man who died a week after diving into the Royal Fountains was named Mark Beckman, Thomas "Cahill"'s last name is correctly spelled "Cahall", and he was struck by lightning in the employee parking lot, not the regualr parking lot as I had earlier assumed.

Yea, I'm obsessed with Disney's Haunted Mansion. I have so many books about it it's ridiculous BB1. Like I said above, I'm trying to figure out what characters were in this scene and what they were doing, since as far as I have seen there are no good photographs of this room and no good videos. -Ghost Guy

Thanks Terpy and Thrill_Biscut for clearing that up. I just joined yesterday. I guess I still have a lot to learn -Ghost Guy

Ah! I see where you are coming from TB.