MrPostman Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 "Kids are only kids for so long, so by the time they get tired of all those little rides KI has invested in they will have already moved onto bigger and better things." I'm pretty sure there will be no shortage of kids in the future. There seems to be little vacancy in the nursery at the hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 ^ I think you missed my point. There is no shortage of kids, but each kid only rides the "kiddy rides" for a very limited time in their life, so there is no need to build additional kiddy rides to offset rider boredom since each cycle of kids will enjoy them, and always be novel since they outgrow them naturally anyways. Whereas an adult lives a MUCH MUCH greater proportion of their life riding adult rides (Age 8-??? maybe 80 or something) I fully understand why the park took KCKC out, it is mostly just sentimental to me since I grew up with it and to me it was a key centerpiece to Rivertown. As a kid I was in awe they could build a flume that tall and that rotating platform was sick stuff haha! I will re-visit it at Hersheypark with Coal Cracker which seems to be running strong. Even though removal of such rides is only practical, I still miss them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Actually, you'd be surprised what a small percentage of the adult population is still riding thrill rides by age 40, even...most of them wouldn't want to be anywhere near a thrill park...which they do not see Disney as being... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIlover123 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 yes i want the lake to come back, if there is any room for it, and btw, what is the construction for? what construction? the dirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Actually, you'd be surprised what a small percentage of the adult population is still riding thrill rides by age 40, even...most of them wouldn't want to be anywhere near a thrill park...which they do not see Disney as being... Hmmmm, Disney Parks (Which You Said), Dollywood and Busch Parks (both of which offer things for adults) and even the Universal Parks. The Paramount Parks moved away from the diversity that all the above offer. CF's addition of more shows seem to be showing an interest in getting back to diversity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 More what? Thrill rides? So far, they have added a few shows and had one fantastic day with Mr. Knievel...but they have done very little to win back those who left the park after KECO sold... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Actually, you'd be surprised what a small percentage of the adult population is still riding thrill rides by age 40, even...most of them wouldn't want to be anywhere near a thrill park...which they do not see Disney as being... Hmmmm, Disney Parks (Which You Said), Dollywood and Busch Parks (both of which offer things for adults) and even the Universal Parks. The Paramount Parks moved away from the diversity that all the above offer. CF's addition of more shows seem to be showing an interest in getting back to diversity. Yeah, those who visit can really tell. Especially those that came during the Paramount years and the recent times under CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeLorean Rider Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Just curious, why are you so into Deloreans? I never gave them a second thought until I saw your username. I know why you are into the Crypt.. I own one... I drove it to West a couple of times, but that was rare. The car in my avatar is my car. Here's a picture of it at a recent Back to the Future venue of mine. If you notice I have my rear louvres off and have the time machines big rear vents in the back. There is a Mr. Fusion but it is behind the door. The flux capacitor is in the center and that kid (who is supposed to be M. Mcfly) is holding my home made hoverboard. By the way, I'm sorry if I sound harsh in my posts, I just try to look at the parks decisions, from the parks point of view. As an enthusiast there are often decisions I am upset by but when I visualize the parks position, I often understand their decisions. (while still disagreeing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 yes i want the lake to come back, if there is any room for it, and btw, what is the construction for? what construction? the dirt Oh the dirt by SoB...dunno what that is... [sarcasm] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 It's dirt. Terpy, always with the straight poop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIlover123 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 yes, the straight truth lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 Nicce. Are DeLoreans fast? I know they are rare and were only made around 1981. It's cool bro, I bet you're tired of hearing how much I like KCKC haha! I'm going into business and know parks make decisions for their own sake and in a professional way, but you still sometimes wish it could be otherwise. I didn't know so few 40+ year olds visit amusement park. Who was KECO??? But still, kids' minds see everything on a much smaller scale. Kiddy rides remain thrilling for much longer in their little minds than say a teenager who is sick on riding (insert any single ride) over and over. I hope someone is following this logic. As a kid I can say Kings Island looked HUGE and magical. Nothing was "boring" to me and it would take riding a particular kiddy ride many times longer to finally become monotonous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 KECO was Kings Entertainment Company...the second major owner of Kings Island. And many 40+ year olds visit, but few of them ride....(and the majority don't even visit...) And as a kid, Kings Island was a bunch of mostly vacant land north of Cincinnati, near a place called Kings Mills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 KECO was Kings Entertainment Company...the second major owner of Kings Island. And many 40+ year olds visit, but few of them ride....(and the majority don't even visit...) And as a kid, Kings Island was a bunch of mostly vacant land north of Cincinnati, near a place called Kings Mills. I'll be 40 in October. Interp is right!! I don't know anyone my age who still rides coasters or goes to parks. They all tell me I'm "crazy." I'm glad I have kids so I can make a superficial excuse that always seem to satisfy them!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 KECO was Kings Entertainment Company...the second major owner of Kings Island. And many 40+ year olds visit, but few of them ride....(and the majority don't even visit...) And as a kid, Kings Island was a bunch of mostly vacant land north of Cincinnati, near a place called Kings Mills. I'll be 40 in October. Interp is right!! I don't know anyone my age who still rides coasters or goes to parks. They all tell me I'm "crazy." I'm glad I have kids so I can make a superficial excuse that always seem to satisfy them!!! And in turn, almost everyone I know enjoys parks, rides and coasters. In fact, I have many buddies headed to Disney this coming Wednesday for all the festivities over the weekend. There are parties at Disney & Universal. Certainly, they'll break away to ride some rides as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 And you are exactly 40, and self select friends much like yourself, as most of us do. I have 75 year old+ friends who still ride, but to conjure them up, you'd have to either have a park event or travel very widely, from New York City to San Diego to Florida. I'm actually getting to an age where I am starting to lose friends, left and right, as they "pass on." Life is a cycle...and kiddie lands remind me of this. Those of you with children who take them to parks and ride with them...enjoy...and remember, time is short. Make today count. And especially you teens...at least occasionally, take your parents somewhere...yes, they can be embarassing, but they are your parents. The day will come when you remember those times fondly. Trust me, I know these things. Terpy, oddly sentimental this morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoor Man Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 i would like to break back into the topic. went last night with the wife for a quick ride blitz in the grown-up areas (left our little NU fan with family)... I have to wonder if CF is going to replace some of the lost theming... Flight Deck was stripped of everything (even the billboard- that I think didn't even have traces of Top Gun on it and was actually a Gillette advertisement was completely gone). the Crypt retained much of it's line theming..... and it seems that some could be added with little or no effort... ie- crypt-like music... closing doors between the "pre-show" area and the rest of the line. International Street could actually play international music instead of the 1980-1990's mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I haven't ridden The Crypt this year and its not at the top of my must ride list due mostly to what I've read about the non-existent themeing (theming?) IMO how much work is it really to make the thing look and feel crypt-like, I mean its already indoors. What are the odds of getting it out of that garage re-themeing and making the thing a part of Rivtown? TR:TR is the only topspin i've ridden but it seems that being outside would add extra sensory response and ultimately a more exciting ride. Theming is a big part of the ride experience for me. I'll onlyride BLSC at night and only if the effects are operational, this after I rode in during the daylight...once... and felt like I had ridden a coaster on par with The Serpeant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartKI Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I haven't ridden The Crypt this year and its not at the top of my must ride list due mostly to what I've read about the non-existent themeing (theming?) IMO how much work is it really to make the thing look and feel crypt-like, I mean its already indoors. What are the odds of getting it out of that garage re-themeing and making the thing a part of Rivtown? TR:TR is the only topspin i've ridden but it seems that being outside would add extra sensory response and ultimately a more exciting ride. Theming is a big part of the ride experience for me. I'll onlyride BLSC at night and only if the effects are operational, this after I rode in during the daylight...once... and felt like I had ridden a coaster on par with The Serpeant. What if they re-themed The Crypt and turned it into "The Mine?" I know it's not as scary and cool as "The Crypt" sounds, but at least it would have something to do with the River Town theme. They could really play up the old mining and River Town theming there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iChase Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 And you are exactly 40, and self select friends much like yourself, as most of us do. I have 75 year old+ friends who still ride, but to conjure them up, you'd have to either have a park event or travel very widely, from New York City to San Diego to Florida. I'm actually getting to an age where I am starting to lose friends, left and right, as they "pass on." Life is a cycle...and kiddie lands remind me of this. Those of you with children who take them to parks and ride with them...enjoy...and remember, time is short. Make today count. And especially you teens...at least occasionally, take your parents somewhere...yes, they can be embarrassing, but they are your parents. The day will come when you remember those times fondly. Trust me, I know these things. Terpy, oddly sentimental this morning... That is the truth Interp. I hang out with my parents and my grandma every chance I get. I know that some day they won't even be here for me to be embarrassed by let alone to hang out with. In fact, I'm planning on taking my parents to KI some time this month. I did it last year and thoroughly enjoyed myself, especially seeing my dad on Firehawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoor Man Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I agree with the post regarding the Crypt... they could EASILY re-theme it to a Mine Shaft of sorts. But also agree that with the complete absence of theming- it would be best served as an outdoor attraction. My guess is that next year when the new coaster opens, RiverTown could be a thing of the past. My guess is that CF has no intentions of building up the Theming of the areas any more than they already are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iChase Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 ^ Very true. Why didn't they retheme it to Mine Shaft? That would have been perfect. Might as well just be an outside attraction considering the point of an indoor attraction is to be themed. Since there's no theming, what's the point? I agree with the new coaster statement too. It could make or break Rivertown. My guess is it will probably break it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartKI Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I guess I'll just have to go to Dollywood for some good "river country" themeing this year while I'm in Pigeon Forge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIlover123 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 good idea, when we were in pigeon forge, we were going to go but it was November, and it was COOLLDD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Hmmmm. I go to Pigeon Forge every November...and it is almost always freezing cold! Still, I take my Mom, we enjoy the shows, and I sneak a ride or a dozen or two on Thunderhead, Blazing Fury (even got her on it once!) and walk around. It's a tradition I don't ever want to miss. Cedar Fair theming? The jury is still out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIlover123 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 yes, thats sounds like fun, ill will try to go next time we're down there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italianchef Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 My son's favorite ride at Kings Island is the Kings Island and Miami Valley Railroad - which has no "theme" as far as TV goes. But he also loved SDATHC because of Scooby Doo and the Fairly Odd Coaster. Overall, I agree. A generic theme is good enough for a little one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIlover123 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 yes, all little kids don't want to ride something just because it is on tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iChase Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 This is how I see it: kids imaginations are running so wildly that they don't need theming to make a ride exciting. They can make it exciting themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 Couldn't agree more! As a little kid, I actually didn't pay a huge amount of attention to the hanna-barbara theming myself. But boy ohh boy, driving those real gas cars made me feel like big stuff and like I was in control of a real car. Another example, those handcarts (You guys remember them but the name's not coming to me) I could feel my own power when I would crank the hand-pedals. The Kings Island &Miami valley railroad was great because it was a REAL train! How often does a kid get to board a real steam engine? KCKC's rotating platform was the coolest thing since sliced bread, keeping one foot on the spinning part and one on the stationary part=awesomeness. King Cobra's loop scared me so bad as a little kid as I thought the riders would fall out! Made sense back then! Imagination goes a long way with little kids!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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