FOFreak Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Yeah, but when I think Vertigo I think of someone walking off a plane after doing barrel-rolls till' you puke. I think more of a looper. But, I like your effort! PS post faster I'm curious.
RailRider Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Well their capital expenditure is less than 10milion next year, which tells me if its steel, its used. Of the list of used coaster for sale or formerly for sale only a few make sense.
Guest rcfreak339 Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 I really wish they would get Hypersonic...
Beast1979 Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 ^Yea cause then I could ride it next year, I've always wanted to ride it.
FOFreak Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 New post on Holiblog! It points back to the Log Flume and the Rapids (hint: never stops). Did anyone else notice that the last two posts ended in "..."?
FOFreak Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Not all the way from Scotland......But close. Has anyone thought of the possibility of their being a town somewhere in the US called Scotland? That would mean that the ride may be from a park somewhere close to there! The word "close" in the post is linked to a newspaper article from Glasgow, KY.
Guest rcfreak339 Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 If it's a used ride why would they have a simulation?
Cory Butcher Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Back when Korey was at Holiday World, there was a post made. The blog poster said that Korey should comment the blog and leave a clue. Korey said this in his comment as "GravityGrouper" he stated: I feel so used... my picture for a Holi-hint?!? I'm not sure if I'm the WORLD'S TALLEST coaster deisgner, but I am pretty sure that I am the TALLEST IN THE MIDWEST...based on the picture I think I might have the knobbiest knees, too. Back to lunch for me... I Feel so used? And "Pretty sure [...] TALLEST IN THE MIDWEST" First off, Ohio although many of us think it is the "Midwest" is many times placed Central United States or on the very west edge of the North East USA. So exclude rides in Ohio...we need to look for the tallest rides (possibly roller coasters) in Indiana, Missouri, Illinois...etc. Just my two cents, I think this may have been the WORLDS LONGEST clue...nope? OK, nevermind, its not
welchce Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 And about the GG guy there, would you think that just because Walter Bolliger was at Kings Island that Kings Island is getting a Beemer? Actually, if I saw Walter Bolliger at KI I would think we're getting a Beemer since B&M is from Switzerland (quite a bit of travel time). However, GG is from Cincinnati. So a 3 hour drive to a family park with your kids where you happened to do some work isn't that big of a deal. But for the blog to mention it, it makes it a big deal (whether the new ride is a GG or not).
RailRider Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Well with what HW is spending next year in capital I highly doubt its new. Im thinking used just from the cost standpoint. They dont have a history of buying used, but neither did Silverwood till Aftershock.
welchce Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Well with what HW is spending next year in capital I highly doubt its new. Im thinking used just from the cost standpoint. They dont have a history of buying used, but neither did Silverwood till Aftershock. According to RCDB, Ravine Flyer II (GG latest build) only cost $6 million.
RailRider Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 4 woodies that close together especially another this soon after Voyage?
Beast1979 Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 ^most parks don't even have 3 woodies. HW has more than enough woodies, I strongly think They're focus is steel. And do you think they'd use this kind of blog campaign for a log flume? They very well might be, but I don't see why they would hype a water ride.
Monroe Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Every one is forgetting a very important fact: Korey is a very talented ENGINEER, and GG does NOT just engineer wooden roller coasters. This could be any thing.
Cory Butcher Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 Also, for the fun fact of the Day, my dear forgetful people, The Voyage had a "listed" investment of 6.5 Million. This investment is over 8 Million. Do the math.
The Interpreter Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 Hmmm. Up since construction of Voyage: * Cost of steel. * Cost of wood. * Cost of labor. * Cost of engineering and design services. A dollar back then was worth quite a bit more than a dollar now. Hmmm, Mr. Cory, why not let's us have you do the math....oh, I know that is a tall order, and I may just drop it this holiday season, if it's all the same to you. Terpy, the philosopher/economist, who prefers his coasters of that type to be bull-related anywho....and prefers riding them to be a great adventure...and even more prefers twisty cyclone type rides in parks that number their flags, or intense woodies under the silvery light of an Idaho moon
FOFreak Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 Terpy, let's not get hasty! I actually read somewhere that wood has been at an all time low since 2005!
The Interpreter Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 Oh, really? Try buying it then. Katrina, anyone?
FOFreak Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 It hasn't changed that much, so let's not be dramatic!
Cory Butcher Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Hmmm. Up since construction of Voyage: * Cost of steel. * Cost of wood. * Cost of labor. * Cost of engineering and design services. A dollar back then was worth quite a bit more than a dollar now. Hmmm, Mr. Cory, why not let's us have you do the math....oh, I know that is a tall order, and I may just drop it this holiday season, if it's all the same to you. Terpy, the philosopher/economist, who prefers his coasters of that type to be bull-related anywho....and prefers riding them to be a great adventure...and even more prefers twisty cyclone type rides in parks that number their flags, or intense woodies under the silvery light of an Idaho moon First off, I was not stating anything about the ride being larger than The Voyage. I simply showed the facts, that Voyage was 6.5 Million and the new investment is more than 8 Million. And I further instituted those wondering about the new ride to do the math themselves, for there are involved calculations needed to see how much of a ride 8 mill plus will buy. I simply gave a benchmark from three years ago. I made no claims in what I posted, no claims at all.
The Interpreter Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Let's remember who is promoting this thing...one Paula Werne, a masterful marketer extraordinaire...and knowing her, this could be anything from a new drop ride to a new environmentally safe disposal system for in park garbage to new Dodgem cars that swing around like Flying Scooters to a new water coaster. The possibilities are endless...the funds available are not.
FOFreak Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Very, Very true Terpy. All we know is that: Its been reported to cost around $8.5 million Its been reported to be the Tallest Of Its Kind Paula has been drooping random hints on her Holiblog
tigellinus Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 possibilities are endless...the funds available are not. Mr. Burke disagrees!!
The Interpreter Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Yep, that was his Story...then again, I'd like to have the severance either one of them got...
The Interpreter Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 He was the financial guru, such as he was, under Gary Story's Six Flags. Their philosophy was to spend, spend, spend on big thrill rides, to the virtual exclusion of everything else, from middle management to park upkeep to employee salaries. They also overexpanded, buying small family parks for huge sums of money, then only investing in the big parks and Six Flags Ohio (and we know how that ended). Their overriding philosophy was "If you build it, they will come." It worked. For a little while. And then...it didn't. This guy named Dan Snyder, who owned the Washington Redskins, took over the company, and brought in Mark Shapiro from ESPN.....and the story continues, for a little while.
FOFreak Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Good story, but how did Six Flags Ohio end? Too many Six Flags' makes me confuzed?!?
tigellinus Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 ^^^Ummmm....Shirley you're not serious?!....GEAUGA LAKE!!!
The Interpreter Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Six Flags, desperate for money, sold what was once Geauga Lake and Seaworld of Ohio to Cedar Fair, which did not buy the animals. Cedar Fair tried to operate the park and did install a new waterpark on the Seaworld side, then announced abruptly late last year, after the season ended, that it was closing Geauga Lake...
FOFreak Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Oh, I feel stupid now... -FOF, who wants to go back to playing his favorite game... the guessing game
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