Guest rcfreak339 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 There are also those who insist the original name was going to be Swoop. I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippewa&idora4ever Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 this is first thing that comes to mind; http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...VideoID=3533428 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 See, among other things, post 3641 here: http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?...st&p=219462 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rcfreak339 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 this is first thing that comes to mind; http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...VideoID=3533428 That was the first thong that came to my mind, Wow! I guess great minds think alike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippewa&idora4ever Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 true, true. But back on topic. If They were to demolish Flight Deck, Okay wait just a moment, I'm not going to start calling a ride that has been known as TOP GUN for 15 years another name because CF changed it, they wouldn't if Top Gun hadn't been a trademark of Paramount/ Viacom. sooooo. If they were to demolish Top Gun Do you think that they would rebuild there or just leave it in rot, station and que. I wouldnt be surprised if it remained SBNO for several years like Flashback at Six Flags Magic Mountain. poor Top Gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rcfreak339 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 As posters said earlier a B&M Invert would fit perfect there... I can see it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippewa&idora4ever Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Im just not a fan of those. Dive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Is there not someone making new trains - suspended swing seats (floorless) - for these rides? That's all you would need to change the feeling, if that's what's so darn important to everyone. It seems, once again, that some of you people think that 15 or 20 million dollars for a coaster is nothing and it should just be "thrown out" like garbage because you think bigger is better or whatever ****amamy reasons you have. Yes, I can express my opinions too - and I just have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rcfreak339 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'm Pretty sure Intamin does make wheels and other parts for Arrow coasters because if they didn't we wouldn't have Vortex or Flightdeck because it would cost to much money to Coustom make needed replacement parts and trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Flight Deck had a 30 minute line easy on Saturday. Did I wait in it, no? But still it does still pull lines at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rcfreak339 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I've rode Flight Deck when it looks to be about a 30min wait then it turn s to at least 60min! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormaster Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Someone surely still builds parts for Arrow's. After all, KI has 3 Arrow's (Vortex, Adventure Express, Flight Deck). Wouldn't S&S power support Arrow coasters since they own whats left of the company? I want to see them keep both Flight Deck and Son of Beast. Flight Deck isn't bad, it's decently intense, and I agree, if it were a minute longer it would be a much better ride. The ride que is also redicolous for this thing... if they demolish any thing they need to take down part of that que! However it has seemed to be a reliable ride for the last 15 years and its one of those that you just gotta ride every visit for the hell of it. Just like Adventure Express I always find myself on that coaster every visit! I don't see them removing it just because well there money is probably tapped for a while after building Diamondback, and its not really hurting anything in the corner of the park its in. Also its good for the coaster count. I don't see them tearing down Son of Beast any time in the near future just because, like others have said it seems like it would be an even bigger waste of money to tear down Son of Beast. if they were going to do that they probably should of done it after the incident of '06. I still don't think it improved much on the smooth side of things, but I have found its the smoothest coaster in the park in the front of the train, and the roughest in the back. Why is that anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast1979 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Someone surely still builds parts for Arrow's. After all, KI has 3 Arrow's (Vortex, Adventure Express, Flight Deck). Wouldn't S&S power support Arrow coasters since they own whats left of the company? Unless I'm mistaken Vekoma built new trains for an Arrow Suspended Swinging. So if I had to guess it would be Vekoma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippewa&idora4ever Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Someone surely still builds parts for Arrow's. After all, KI has 3 Arrow's (Vortex, Adventure Express, Flight Deck). Wouldn't S&S power support Arrow coasters since they own whats left of the company? Unless I'm mistaken Vekoma built new trains for an Arrow Suspended Swinging. So if I had to guess it would be Vekoma. thats what i said earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortexlover2 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 right, I forgot it was arrow who built it. For some reason I always think it's Vekoma. Anyways,it's odd you would say b&m invert after my comment, because that's exactly what I was thinking. but again, why couldn't they get s&s to do it. I mean, (and I could be mistaken, because I'm working off of memory here) they still support X, don't they? I think that was arrow and s&s anyways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippewa&idora4ever Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Someone surely still builds parts for Arrow's. After all, KI has 3 Arrow's (Vortex, Adventure Express, Flight Deck). Wouldn't S&S power support Arrow coasters since they own whats left of the company? I want to see them keep both Flight Deck and Son of Beast. Flight Deck isn't bad, it's decently intense, and I agree, if it were a minute longer it would be a much better ride. The ride que is also redicolous for this thing... if they demolish any thing they need to take down part of that que! However it has seemed to be a reliable ride for the last 15 years and its one of those that you just gotta ride every visit for the hell of it. Just like Adventure Express I always find myself on that coaster every visit! I don't see them removing it just because well there money is probably tapped for a while after building Diamondback, and its not really hurting anything in the corner of the park its in. Also its good for the coaster count. I don't see them tearing down Son of Beast any time in the near future just because, like others have said it seems like it would be an even bigger waste of money to tear down Son of Beast. if they were going to do that they probably should of done it after the incident of '06. I still don't think it improved much on the smooth side of things, but I have found its the smoothest coaster in the park in the front of the train, and the roughest in the back. Why is that anyway? we never were talking about the Son of Beast getting demolished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris_2009 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Flight Deck had a 30 minute line easy on Saturday. Did I wait in it, no? But still it does still pull lines at times. That just tells you how bad going on Saturdays are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormaster Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Someone surely still builds parts for Arrow's. After all, KI has 3 Arrow's (Vortex, Adventure Express, Flight Deck). Wouldn't S&S power support Arrow coasters since they own whats left of the company? I want to see them keep both Flight Deck and Son of Beast. Flight Deck isn't bad, it's decently intense, and I agree, if it were a minute longer it would be a much better ride. The ride que is also redicolous for this thing... if they demolish any thing they need to take down part of that que! However it has seemed to be a reliable ride for the last 15 years and its one of those that you just gotta ride every visit for the hell of it. Just like Adventure Express I always find myself on that coaster every visit! I don't see them removing it just because well there money is probably tapped for a while after building Diamondback, and its not really hurting anything in the corner of the park its in. Also its good for the coaster count. I don't see them tearing down Son of Beast any time in the near future just because, like others have said it seems like it would be an even bigger waste of money to tear down Son of Beast. if they were going to do that they probably should of done it after the incident of '06. I still don't think it improved much on the smooth side of things, but I have found its the smoothest coaster in the park in the front of the train, and the roughest in the back. Why is that anyway? we never were talking about the Son of Beast getting demolished The topic basically implies we were talking about Son of Beast being demolished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welchce Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Someone surely still builds parts for Arrow's. After all, KI has 3 Arrow's (Vortex, Adventure Express, Flight Deck). Wouldn't S&S power support Arrow coasters since they own whats left of the company? Unless I'm mistaken Vekoma built new trains for an Arrow Suspended Swinging. So if I had to guess it would be Vekoma. thats what i said earlier Something like: Vampire I thought Top Gun was supposed to get these trains after one of them hit a truck sitting below the track... or at least it was a rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormaster Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 so how come S&S doesn't support the Arrow Products? From my understanding Arrow still exists, but S&S bought them, and they are now called S&S Arrow. Shouldn't they support the Arrow coasters? Anyway I know I"m dreaming but speaking of other companies supporting Arrows, who wouldn't want some new modern day B&M "sitdown coaster" trains for The Vortex? Trains like the ones on "led zepplin the ride" at HRP or "kumba" at Busch Gardens Tampa. Like i said its far fetch but I'd love it. I'd like to see them do that and repaint The Vortex to dark blue and dark red. These are the custom looping trains I'm referring too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Well for one the B&M sit down train is to wide, the track gauge is all wrong and new trains arent going to make the transitions any better. Thats an Arrow trademark, bad transitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawana Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 ^Flight Deck is a great thrilling ride, just to short. give it a new paint job and it'll be fine! New paint solves the shortness of the ride how? Come on, that's why it's a walk-on. To compensate for the shortness. It's not always a walk-on. Like PKIVortex said, it does have a decent line on some days. I went on a Wednesday and the line was out of the station and down the stairs. I hardly think that KI "makes the ride a walk on to compensate for the length of the ride." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Well for one the B&M sit down train is to wide, the track gauge is all wrong and new trains arent going to make the transitions any better. Thats an Arrow trademark, bad transitions. Not to mention that on Kumba's trains, the riders do not sit tilted back such that their feet cannot easily touch the floor...unlike newer otherwise similar B & M trains. B & M no longer offers the type of trains on Kumba, except as replacements, if even that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormaster Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 doesn't led zeplin the ride have the same trains? Anyway I was thinking the same type of trains more or less, but ones that only seat 2 across. if B&M could make us some awesome trains for The Vortex it really would be a massive improvement. just kinda hate how the back seats of the current trains feel like the back seat of a camaro, and the front seats have that stupid wheel well. needless to say the ride's awesome, but the trains really aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Wow...it does appear that perhaps the riders are not tilted back on the Led Zeppelin trains...and here I thought there was virtually no reason to visit Hard Rock Park! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormaster Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 LZTR seems to be the only reason to visit HRP. Nothing else seems interesting. A arrow dynamics custom looping coaster, except made by B&M. No horrible transitions, six inversions, 155 foot drop, and speakers on the trains that blare "a Whole lotta love" in sync with the ride. Great Idea, just too bad the rest of the park sucks. Anyway its just an idea really. I for one would be happy if Vortex just lasts 10 or 20 more years! Still my favorite ride in the park! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippewa&idora4ever Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 Okay, so tell me again how a topic about Top Gun and Son of Beast became a topic about Vortex, Kumba, and led Zepplin the ride? , just kidding. But the Vampire trains would mean a big change for "Flight Deck" which would require a name change and new scenery. Seeing as it would no longer feel like your sitting in an fighter jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 You mean it does/did feel like you are sitting in a fighter jet? Who knew? (Perhaps it would help if one had not also ridden Big Bad Wolf, XLR8, Iron Dragon, Ninja at Magic Mountain, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster_junky Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Someone surely still builds parts for Arrow's. After all, KI has 3 Arrow's (Vortex, Adventure Express, Flight Deck). Wouldn't S&S power support Arrow coasters since they own whats left of the company? I want to see them keep both Flight Deck and Son of Beast. Flight Deck isn't bad, it's decently intense, and I agree, if it were a minute longer it would be a much better ride. The ride que is also redicolous for this thing... if they demolish any thing they need to take down part of that que! However it has seemed to be a reliable ride for the last 15 years and its one of those that you just gotta ride every visit for the hell of it. Just like Adventure Express I always find myself on that coaster every visit! I don't see them removing it just because well there money is probably tapped for a while after building Diamondback, and its not really hurting anything in the corner of the park its in. Also its good for the coaster count. I don't see them tearing down Son of Beast any time in the near future just because, like others have said it seems like it would be an even bigger waste of money to tear down Son of Beast. if they were going to do that they probably should of done it after the incident of '06. I still don't think it improved much on the smooth side of things, but I have found its the smoothest coaster in the park in the front of the train, and the roughest in the back. Why is that anyway? we never were talking about the Son of Beast getting demolished The topic basically implies we were talking about Son of Beast being demolished not until you posted that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 You mean it does/did feel like you are sitting in a fighter jet? Who knew? (Perhaps it would help if one had not also ridden Big Bad Wolf, XLR8, Iron Dragon, Ninja at Magic Mountain, etc.) I've ridden Iron Dragon, and, as a result, I will NEVER complain about Flight Deck again...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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