The Interpreter Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 If you don't, please explain to me what The Coney Island Cyclone is... Two pages of them, and this is just a partial listing! http://www.rcdb.com/ir.htm?category=218 Quote
Captain Nemo Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Can you give your own personal opinion? I and the users reading will give their opinion but the creator must have an opinion as well! Why wouldn't it be wooden? It feels like one, rattles like one, and overall has the presence of being one. So yes, it is wooden. Quote
The Interpreter Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Well, most of them rattle like one. El Toro doesn't. At least, not yet. Quote
LongliveKingsCobra Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 I wonder if he thinks a Wooden Hyper has Steel.....maybe? Like AE? Wood with Steel track?? Quote
Jasper Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Of course i would, it rides like one, looks like one, and sounds like one so to me yes i would. Quote
Coney Islander Posted February 2, 2009 Author Posted February 2, 2009 Thanks. I've never ridden a wooden Hybrid so I decided not to vote. I really can't wait to ride the Voyage at Holiday World next year. Quote
DeLorean Rider Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Absolutely. Do you not consider Adventure Express to be a steel coaster? FYI Adventure Express is under the control of steel coaster maintainence at KI. I guess the real question is what determines the ride experience, the supports or the track? I think most would say track. Quote
Tomkatt7 Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Maybe I'm wrong, and if I am, I'm SURE it will pointed out!!! LOL The track that the train rides on gives more to the feel than the structure does. As long as the track is wooden then it should ride and perform as a wooden coaster. So I go with a yes vote. Quote
CoastersRZ Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Well, there are several things I want to comment on here. First, the wooden coasters like the Coney Island Cyclone, Voyage, the coasters at Indiana Beach that have steel super structure and wooden track are in fact wooden coasters. Yes, the steel super structure may not have quite as much give as a wooden structure, but the track construction and trains are consistent with wooden coasters. The overall ride experience is generally the same between traditional wooden coasters with all wood structures and ones with steel structures. Now, rides like Adventure Express and Cedar Creek Mine ride are considered steel coasters, even though their support structure is comprised of heavy timber posts and beams. The actual trains run on tubular steel rails. Thirdly, and I think others would tend to agree with me on this, the Intamin wooden coasters with the "plug and play" track are perhaps the most hybridized version of a wooden coaster and steel coaster. I have not ridden El Toro, but I have heard that it doesn`t have quite the same ride experience as a traditional wooden coaster. It rides like a steel coaster. Does El Toro loose something by not using the traditional wood coaster track construction? Possibly. But I can`t really comment on that, since I`ve never had a great adventure out to New Jersey to ride it. Quote
violakat03 Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 I'm going to say yes - because I didn't realize coasters like Voyage, Cyclone, and Ravine Flyer II had a steel superstructure. But really, I'd say yes and no - they're a hybrid and that's what they are, but if you had to say it is one or the other, I'd say wood because the track is wood. Just like AE and Gemini are steel because the track is steel. Quote
74Gibson Posted March 21, 2009 Posted March 21, 2009 I agree that the track is the determining factor in the feel of the ride and hybrids are more like wooden coasters than steel ones. I also agree that the opposite is true for wooden supports holding steel track. However it would be far more accurate to call them hybrids because they are. Unfortunately that become a long complicated name because you'd have to specify if it's wood or steel track or super structure. So my answer, they ride like wood and should be called something like wooden track hybrids but who wants to say all that? Quote
The Interpreter Posted March 21, 2009 Posted March 21, 2009 Wooden coasters with pre-fabricated track, also known as Plug and Play coasters from INTAMIN, ride much more like steel than wood...and yet the track is wood by all definitions, the supports are wood..... Terpy, somewhat reiterating what CoastersRZ has already said... Quote
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