hamoperator Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Sorry peoples, I can't find the original topic as to "Is Avatar a Coaster"; but I emailed the manufacturer and this was their view on it. Is it always powered? assisted? or coast? Hope this doesn't violoate anything. The Gondola is always connected to power and the drive of the motor is always on. However, at the low point of the track, the motor, even though powered, is not really adding to the gondola's momentum. This means at certain points during the ride, the gondola could be considered to be 'coasting'. On a launch or lift-hill coaster, once the vehicle or train exits the launch or leaves the lift hill, all of the energy is in the system. Where, the system is the car or train. The train or car eventually comes to a stop due to losses (friction, wind resistance, and rolling resistance) and/or braking. The difference is that Avatar (Zamperla's product name: Disko Coaster with Skater gondola) has the ability to add energy during the ride into the system (i.e the gondola). There are many coasters that have motors on-board, such as our Dragon coaster. These are still coasters, but they are classified as Powered Coasters. Furthermore, just as you can classify a coaster as inverted, sit-down or stand up. I'd consider the Avatar as a coaster, I'd just classify it as a 'disko coaster'. Some people may call it a Skater Coaster, but the Skater and Disko coasters are the same platform, they just have a different seating arrangement. So, in my opinion, the Avatar is a powered, disko coaster. Hope this helps. Jay Jay Crisler, P.E. Director of Engineering Zamperla, Inc. 49 Fanny Road Boonton, NJ 07005 USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 That man should have been a lawyer...or a marketer....oh, wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Hmmmm. You didn't like the 1 answer you received in the first thread you started identical to this one? Lastly, a coaster coasts on its' own power, whether it be after the lift hill or after a launch. Avatar is powered off and on throughout the ride cycle. Hence, not a coaster IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIfan73 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Avatar is powered off and on throughout the ride cycle. So is The Beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongliveKingsCobra Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 But for the most part Beast coasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Heck, according to many here (not me), for the most part, Beast creeps... Terpy, stating a synthesis with which he does not agree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIfan73 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 How much coasting does a coaster have to do...before you can call it a coaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 They counted it as a coaster in last year's park map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIfan1980 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Who cares if it is a coaster or not - it is fun. And what I really want to know is - is it running again as it was down both Monday and Tuesday when I was at the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I agree Who cares: Its a great ride Avatar the last air bender is fun for adults and kids: and really Kings Island is the only one with one??/ with this seating correct? most have outbound seating?????so Kings Island had there's built with kids in mind!! It could be considered a flat too?? but Its a blast: if nick goes away??? How about woodstocks skater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 As has been said many times, if Nick goes away, Snoopy doesn't magically appear in its place unless Cedar Fair pays the necessary licensing fees to Universal Features Syndicate and/or United Media Licensing. By no means is this a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki Man Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Every ride is powered: -By wheels -Electricity -Hydrolics -LIMs -LSMs -Chain lift If someone counts it as a credit, then congratulations....you have an extra credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamoperator Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hmmmm. You didn't like the 1 answer you received in the first thread you started identical to this one? Lastly, a coaster coasts on its' own power, whether it be after the lift hill or after a launch. Avatar is powered off and on throughout the ride cycle. Hence, not a coaster IMO. I didn't do two post on purpose; I notified Capt Nemo I was having problems. I've noticed it a few times, exspecially with searching threads; with IE8; It's real buggy. But I am glad someone deleted one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Avatar is powered off and on throughout the ride cycle. So is The Beast. Other than the chain lifts, where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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