I've been meaning to ask this for a while but I never got around to it,

Why is the back seat on Pepsi Python always left empty?

Maybe to help prevent it from stalling.

No. The ride experience in the last seat is considered to be beyond that desired by the average rider. The last row of the Camden Park Big Dipper is also blocked off for the same reason.

Can there be that much of a difference in the last row of the last car or the 2nd last row on the last car?

Yes, there can. That's one of the reasons no one under 18 is allowed to ride in the back seat of Cyclops at Mount Olympus in the Wisconsin Dells. No such rule applies for the seat right in front of it.

In a word, yes.

If you have ridden the Python in the front row of the back car, you will know that the first drop is rather forceful.

And the back, even more so...to put it mildly!

And before you ask:

http://www.rcdb.com/405.htm

Why yes, yes he did.

It was in New Jersey, did you really think he wouldn't?

It has been a long while since I rode it and I can't remember what seat but I do remember having the feeling of being thrown forward and almost busting my mouth.

I'm kind of sad that you can't ride it in the back seat. I would love to experience it. It's a good coaster in the front of the train, if it's intense enough that they feel the need to close off the back row, I can just imagine.

Can't wait till I get to try Cyclops. And it will definitely be in the back seat.

It's a small little coaster but it does pack a punch. I would love to ride it in the back sometime. It's a great little ride.

Can there be that much of a difference in the last row of the last car or the 2nd last row on the last car?

I used to think the same way until I rode The Tornado at Stricker's Grove. WHAT A DIFFERENCE! It's a good ride in the 2nd last row and a GREAT ride in the last row.

Also, I've had trimless rides on Magnum in both the 2nd last and last rows of the train. The last row was PAINFUL and is the reason why I try to shy away from wheel seats on Magnum. The 2nd last row was almost no pain at all.

I've only ridden Python once, but had an interesting thing happen, something I'm not sure was right for the ride op to do. I was placed in the front seat, Mrs. Gator and GatorGirl were behind me. Due to my size, the lap bar wouldn't lock. The ride op tried to get it to lock, but after failing to do so she said I could ride it as long as I held the lap bar down and held on to the bar in front of me, which was mounted to the car itself. I rode it that way, but I wouldn't have if GatorGirl had been in the seat with me instead of her being with Mrs. Gator. It's a fun little coaster.

And I'm glad someone asked the question that started this topic, I was wondering about the last seat too.

When I went down to a Riverbend concert and saw Pepsi Python running. When it was at the bottom of the first drop, it looked VERY intense. I guess I now know that it really it.

That's one of the reasons no one under 18 is allowed to ride in the back seat of Cyclops at Mount Olympus in the Wisconsin Dells. No such rule applies for the seat right in front of it.

Now careful there, Terpy. The sign in the station says "must be 18 or older to ride in last car" rather than last seat. That said, I won't ride anywere else.

Now I get to pout about not being able to ride in a backseat of a coaster.

Flyer, pouting.

That's not what it used to say.

Interesting....

I love the Tornado at Strikers Grove. I really wish Kings Island would have something like that.

I love the Tornado at Strikers Grove. I really wish Kings Island would have something like that.

Cough Cough *Racer* Cough Cough

Nothing on Racer even remotely compares to Tornado's "cliff."

Nothing at all.

And if it did, Cedar Fair would quickly have it reprofiled to remove it...

I know I really wish some of the old time woodies woudl come to Kings Island. They are freaking great.

The cliff > anything on any wood coaster at KI.

Well, air time wise. I still love The Beast's helix.

The last and only time I've ridden Pepsi Python was during when my mom's company picnic, at the bottom of the first drop it felt like my back wanted to snap. One ride is enough for a coaster count.

Nothing on Racer even remotely compares to Tornado's "cliff."

Nothing at all.

And if it did, Cedar Fair would quickly have it reprofiled to remove it...

The Cliff violates every single law of Cedar Fair's wood maintenance plan. It has amazing airtime, no trim brakes, Buzz Bars, no Head rests, it's like the defiant teenager of the wooden coaster world!

And I like it that way. The Cliff gave me bruises from all the airtime, even with a buzzbar, it is that intense. The rest of the ride is fantastic to, there's decent airtime on nearly every hill of that wonderful ride! It's too bad it can't be counted as a classic woodie, since it was built in 1993, despite looking and feeling just like one.

Am I the only one that is confused to what "the Cliff" is?

You'd have to ride it to know what there talking about lol.

The Cliff is the single most intense feature on a coaster I have ever experienced, and love it. That ride would be completely different without it.