What 3D Movie Should Replace Spongebob?

[Cory Butcher]

Interpreter, I am quite peeved that you did not acknowledge Klondike Katie or Cinderella until just now. What gives?

[The Interpreter]

I only have a few posts...I cannot mention everything!

Terpy, in a sardonic mood!

Besides, if we are going to do that, we MUST mention the train at the Magic Kingdom. We simply must!

[RingMaster]

Some old flats like a Tilt-a-Whirl, Bayern Curve, Ferris Wheel, and Giant Slide would fit perfectly in the Coney Mall area.

I agree completely. Does anybody remember that a building was removed before this last season near the entrance of AT (If I remember correctly.)? I'm HOPING a flat ride will go in that spot for the 2010 season. I LOVE tilt-a-whirls and don't mind Ferris wheels. Here's hoping that spot wasn't cleared JUST to reduce costs.

Oh yeah, the old Laser Tag Dome. The actual laser tag portion of the building was removed in '06, I believe, and just sat there as storage for Games (a giant water gun game sat in front of the building for a brief period of time in '07) until last season when they decided to get rid of it.

I wouldn't mind having a Giant Slide return to Coney; I always went on the one at Americana/Lesourdsville Lake before it went the way of the dodo/Nokia N-Gage.

[XGatorHead 8904]

Last year, I asked to ride Timmy's Airtours, and the ride op said the only children's rides that I did not exceed the height limit for were Fairly Odd Coaster, Wild Thornberry's, Avatar, Scooby Doo, and the middle seat on Plankton's Plunge.

5 out of the 18.

I was probably just remembering times when I was able to ride these rides. But I strongly, maybe vividly remember riding Timmy's Airtours.

Ok, there's your problem. You asked to ride Timmy's Air Tours... which you can ride, as long as you have a child with you. Since you didn't, you were turned away. In order for adults to ride Timmy's Air Tours, Little Bill's Giggle Coaster, La Adventura de Azul and Nick-O-Round, they must have a child with them that is under 60". These rides have had this policy in force for years; this is not a recent change. So parents can experience the park with their children, you just couldn't ride because you didn't have a child with you.

So in Nick U, you can ride: Avatar, Reptar, Fairly Odd Coaster, Phantom Flyers, Plankton's Plunge, Wild Thornberry's River Adventure, Lazytown Sportacopters, Bikini Bottom Bash (and Scooby Doo, which was technically not part of Nick U).

9 out of the 19 (counting Scooby).

If you have a child with you, you can add 4 more rides to that list, which I have noted in the first paragraph.

13 out of the 19.

[PKISecurity]

Thats one good reason for Kings Island to add a bunch of family rides in that area... Some old flats like a Tilt-a-Whirl, Bayern Curve, Ferris Wheel, and Giant Slide would not only fit perfectly in the Coney Mall area, but would make Kings Island a true family park once again... I know a few families that no longer go to Kings Island because they can not experience the park with their children. Last year, many of the Nick Universe rides that were previously for all ages had height requirements.

Another idea I have is putting a Country Bear Jamboree styled attraction in the defunct side of Action Theater. Would that be in the price range for a seasonal park like Kings Island?

Are we speaking of the one that "graced" Americana Amusement Park? The last time I saw that show, the theatre became heavily induced with smoke in the middle of the show and I learned later as I got older it caught fire and I never saw it working again. Americana was the blueprint for family fun. Speaking of this topic, I surely hope they don't build into "The Beast ZONE". It would kill the pure mystic of darkness where "The Beast" hides. I wrote on that last spring. Why not move everything out to the old Animal Kingdom Area and bring back the family rides OR A NESTALGIC PARK? Bring back the old King Cobra...can anyone remember how tall it seemed to stand alone until they built Son of Beast? Get The Bat and screamin deamon out of the closest. I'm sure with todays advances...it could be built safer. Really?? When I worked at pki...families would ride the rides and if they brought grandma and grandpa or the little tyke, you'd always see them at the exits or entrance in wheelchairs burning up in the sun or left alone to wait. Why not bring things the WHOLE FAMILY can enjoy. Shows, Slower to the ground rides, the 30's-40's midways, a steamboat ride to an island for a picknic or lunch. They deserve "Something" for the price of their ticket too!!!!

Oh...at Americana, they had a stand up movie where a babystroller strolled away from mom who hadn't when it rolled away from her and was dodging in/out of traffic through a busy city street. That was FUN!

~PKISecurity

[The Interpreter]

Although I agree with much of what you have said, I must point out that if that strategy had been tremendously successful at Americana, one would think the park would still be open for business. It is not.

[PKISecurity]

Although I agree with much of what you have said, I must point out that if that strategy had been tremendously successful at Americana, one would think the park would still be open for business. It is not.

Well Terpy...Let's consider why many of the Mom & Pop stores shut down in America when good ol Wal-Mart rolls in a town who has survived all these years without one. Same principle applies here I believe. Back in Americana's day+don't forget Fantasy Farm, Coca-Cola would 'ALWAYS' have their annual picnic there as would many other corporate businesses alike...it was during these times that businesses could afford it and they planned it in their yearly agenda. (Parks back then was affordable for families) Plus, it was when businesses cared about their employees. But as time moved on, KI grew bigger with newer, taller and better rides and shows. The youth and parents of those times became more interested in "the new shiny toy" (KI) and I'm sure that KI, when they became larger, didn't want the add'l competition. So to meet all of the "family's needs", families went to one park where the adults could enjoy the big coasters and the little tykes could enjoy the merry go round all in one place. Families couldn't afford to do both. Remember the reaction everyone had when Kings Island pulled the plug on the Anique Cars. As simple as they were, people were ready to pull out the torches and pitchforks. People want the new AND the old. It's a part of who we are as humans. We have adapted to change. I'm old enough to remember that when radios only had am and fm, not like fm2 and fm3 on the digital side where you have alternative selections to choose from, that you had to accept whatever the stations chose to play. When all this rap and hip hop came out, it seemed that's all the stations played was the top 20. Same songs over and over. I hated it. If you wanted an oldies station that played the classics from the 50's and 60's, it gotten eaten up between stations and finally choked off the dial. Now, look at what's on the shelves today in the mall. Girls and guys dressing up 80's retro. Go into Hot Topic...it comes in cycles. So, I believe people would accept the old with the new. That's what I'm saying. Americana just didn't suffered because they had poor management and poor ideas...bigger and better things just came to town. If you get off at I-75...if you turned one way you went to Americana if you turned the other you got KI. KI won with the change of the times!

[The Interpreter]

It is a common misconception that Kings Island did in Americana. I think not. Park River owned both Americana and Coney Island at one time, and decided to keep the latter while selling the former...which was bought by a gentleman who then leased it out to a carnival ride operator. It was this decision that largely did in the park...the Pughs were not good for Mr. Couch, not good for Americana and are largely the reason the park is not there today...if Kings Island was what did in Americana, please explain why Coney Island continues in business to this day, doing quite well...

[PKISecurity]

It is a common misconception that Kings Island did in Americana. I think not. Park River owned both Americana and Coney Island at one time, and decided to keep the latter while selling the former...which was bought by a gentleman who then leased it out to a carnival ride operator. It was this decision that largely did in the park...the Pughs were not good for Mr. Couch, not good for Americana and are largely the reason the park is not there today...if Kings Island was what did in Americana, please explain why Coney Island continues in business to this day, doing quite well...

You're kidding me right? Have you been there yourself? http://www.coneyisla...k.com/index.php This place is the BIGGEST DRAG I HAVE EVER SEEN!!! I for myself, have never been there nor even knew that it was still operational. Good for them. But, if you check the season passes, IT'S THE SAME PRICE AS A Kings Island SEASON PASS!!!! $89.95. That's for a park that you'd be better off taking the kids to the neighborhood playground than pay that price for 1/4 of what you'd get at KI. IT'S OUTRAGOUS!!! Don' t get me wrong, I'm sure it's a beautiful park, has the great history and nestalgic feel and it's convenient for locals who live around there, but SERIOUSLY...FOR THAT PRICE OF $89.95, YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT ANOTHER 20 MIN UP THE ROAD WOULD BE WORTH MORE THE VALUE AND THE DRIVE FOR WHAT YOU WOULD GET????? I wouldn't expect to pay more than $50 IF THAT for a season pass at Coney Island!!!!

[The Interpreter]

No, I am NOT kidding you. That is a superb little park. And it is still in business today, thriving actually. Unlikely the financial failure in Middletown, Ohio.

And I can hardly wait til CoastersRZ sees this, or Jeff Seibert!

I also was going to Coney Island of Ohio long before most of the posters here were born!

[Cory Butcher]

PKISecurity, You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion.

Everything The Interpreter spoke of is correct regarding LeSourdsville Lake Amusement Park.

Coney Island is doing a dandy job with locals and company picnics. This is the very thing that LeSourdsville Lake Amusement Park used to do very well.

The one main reason for Coney Island still surviving in my opinion however: Sunlight Pool.

[Coney Islander]

^^

Hey! What about me?

I'm bad at writing reviews, so I think I'll just wait for one of the people mentioned above...

^

Agreed.

[The Interpreter]

PKISecurity has amended his post to add a rant about the pricing of season passes at Coney Island of Ohio. Coney's passes are quite reasonable...and the sales for the season pass prove it...

[Coney Islander]

Now that PKISecurity edited his post, I have an answer.

If you've never been to Coney, I've just got to say you're really missing out. It is a beautiful place to spend the day, and I know people that picnic there for free, without paying for anything. After all, Coney Island is the 'Coolest' place in Cincinnati!

The real draw to Coney Island is Sunlite Pool. Sunlite Pool draws local kids, company picnics, and everyone in between. Not to mention, since Coney Island is closer (to many Cincinnatians) than Kings Island, you can save a heckofalot of gas money.

[The Interpreter]

And there is where you err...it is not an either/or. I miss Whalom, Americana/LeSourdsville, Miracle Strip, Hillcrest, Kiddieland, Geauga Lake, etc.

I may be old compared to many, but I still ride.

And my father died of Alzheimer's Disease. I deeply resent your carelessly throwing that around. It is a stereotype no one should engage in. Period. Calm down.

[Coney Islander]

^^Not really... Virtually, the only resemblance between Coney Island today, and Coney Island pre 1971 are the pool, the lake, and a few of the flat rides.

Even the old midway is gone!

And I know The Interpreter loves all Amusement parks. At least, I've never heard of one he's dislikes...

[Cory Butcher]

AND FOR THE REST OF US TO DROP OFF YOU SENIOR CITIZENS OVER IN YOUR SECTION OF THE PARK....called, ummm, uhhh, (what's it called again) OH YEAH....CAMP ALZHEIMER'S!

People like YOU, that make comments like this should not be here on this forum. What a pathetic waste of a post. Simply disgusting.

[The Interpreter]

As much as it pains me to say it, I totally agree. On the other hand, everyone has a purpose...perhaps one of his is to teach us how not to act.

Sigh.

[RingMaster]

PKISecurity is just mad because Coney Island doesn't have a Beemer or an Intamin or any other form of coaster that goes 200+ feet in the air. Methinks he wouldn't fare too well at Dollywood, either.

[PKISecurity]

Now that PKISecurity edited his post, I have an answer.

If you've never been to Coney, I've just got to say you're really missing out. It is a beautiful place to spend the day, and I know people that picnic there for free, without paying for anything. After all, Coney Island is the 'Coolest' place in Cincinnati!

The real draw to Coney Island is Sunlite Pool. Sunlite Pool draws local kids, company picnics, and everyone in between. Not to mention, since Coney Island is closer (to many Cincinnatians) than Kings Island, you can save a heckofalot of gas money.

Hey CIR....What I hear from all of you reminds of what "used to be" with Americana. It would be great fun to enjoy once more the "way it used to be" old time amusement park. See, for me, Coney Island would be about a two hr drive and KI takes about 70 min on a good day. That's worth having a KI Season Pass to have an outstanding pool like BB, than go back in time for rides that my kids would get bored with at CI. I wouldn't get bored, but they would. I hate taking my parents to KI because they can't do anything. The Train, pool (if I stay with them...they'd fall without me) and maybe, just maybe the Zypher on a good day for them. Cedar Point is just as close as Coney Island ( i live up north), but I haven't been there yet as well. I worked for KI years ago and would make it 'MY CAREER' if I was asked. KI means a lot to me and I love the guests, employees and managment staff. Everyone treats everyone with a great deal of dignity and trust. I never had a problem working here and I loved it so much that I ended up going to and graduating the Police Academy and KI worked with me and my schedule for the entire Summer without a hitch. Maybe someday, I'll go and give CI a try. I might just like it! Just like trying Blue IceCream!!!

[PKISecurity]

And there is where you err...it is not an either/or. I miss Whalom, Americana/LeSourdsville, Miracle Strip, Hillcrest, Kiddieland, Geauga Lake, etc.

I may be old compared to many, but I still ride.

And my father died of Alzheimer's Disease. I deeply resent your carelessly throwing that around. It is a stereotype no one should engage in. Period. Calm down.

FIRST OFF....I'm deeply sadden to hear of your loss for your Father. I'm sorry.

I know when posting our thoughts in 'text' it sometimes sounds worse reading it than when the person typing it meant for it to sound. Please understand, I was commenting on your comment about being around longer than most on this site and making the connection about 'old tyme amusement parks'. By all means necessary, there won't be any need to reprimand me. I feel badly that I've hurt your feelings Terp. I've read your posts in the past and enjoyed reading all of them. I totally respect you. I find you are a caring and humorous person with a loving heart for good ol fashion fun!

Please forgive me. I love this park and wouldn't want anything to happen to it. I enjoyed working at KI when I did and it had given me a new outlook on life after it helped me launch my new career into law enforcement.

I AM SORRY THAT MY POST WENT INTO THE DIRECTION IT HAD. I HAD NO INTENTIONS IN HURTING YOUR FEELINGS. PLEASE FORGIVE ME!

~brian

[The Interpreter]

I accept your apology and understand. It's just that one never knows who is hurting out there, or why.

As for Jeff Seibert, he was for quite some time the marketing person for Americana. Few know that. He did a very good job while he was there...and still the park could not attract enough visitors to make it a winning proposition for its owners. Location is one of the major problems that park had in its later years.

I highly recommend you get to Coney Island. You can have a very good time there. Kings Island, it is not. Then again, it shouldn't have to be.

[PKISecurity]

I accept your apology and understand. It's just that one never knows who is hurting out there, or why.

As for Jeff Seibert, he was for quite some time the marketing person for Americana. Few know that. He did a very good job while he was there...and still the park could not attract enough visitors to make it a winning proposition for its owners. Location is one of the major problems that park had in its later years.

I highly recommend you get to Coney Island. You can have a very good time there. Kings Island, it is not. Then again, it shouldn't have to be.

Thank you for accepting my apology. I am truly sorry! I will think before I type and re-read everything I post from now on! Promise!

[The Interpreter]

I would also add that CoastersRZ has worked for Coney for many years now, operating the Ferris Wheel, and more recently as a manager...so both CoastersRZ and Jeff Seibert know a great deal about Park River...how we got from "What 3D Movie Should Replace Spongebob?" to all this is a mystery we could all figure out, but back to the topic...

[Tom76257]

I would also add that CoastersRZ has worked for Coney for many years now, operating the Ferris Wheel, and more recently as a manager...so both CoastersRZ and Jeff Seibert know a great deal about Park River...how we got from "What 3D Movie Should Replace Spongebob?" to all this is a mystery we could all figure out, but back to the topic...

Agreed, Terpy.

Whatever goes in AT this season (If anything does.), I can't see it being Peanuts related honestly. The only two things I can see motion related that could fit in AT are Snoopy skipping and Charlie Brown missing the football. HOPEFULLY, I'm wrong as I don't mind Peanuts. As I said to another forum member off this site, I'd like to see a Peanuts-based show in Planet Snoopy where Charlie Brown misses the football EVERY time.

[CoastersRZ]

Well, before we return to the regularly scheduled topic, I`d like to add a couple of points.

First, both season pass sales and group sales make up a large portion of Coney`s business (both of which are up significantly so far this year compared to last year, even without any new attraction coming in 2010). And most of those people are attracted by Sunlite Pool. The rides are a nice addition, but they themselves are not the draw at Coney. That being said, there are many rides at Coney that simply can`t be found in most "corporate" amusement parks. Rides like The Tempest, Bumper Boats, and the Giant Slide.

And Mr. Siebert is not the only person that once worked at Americana/LeSourdsville Lake. There are several members of Coney`s full time staff that moved down to Coney when they sold off LeSourdsville Lake. Which, I have heard some people that came from LeSourdsville Lake say that they now wish they hadn`t sold the park, as that area is just booming. And, incidentally, Jeff Siebert himself made a visit to Coney Island this past summer with his family, on vacation from his job at Schlitterbahn. He met up with one of the full timers who he used to work with at LeSourdsville Lake. (I know all that because I was working the ticket booth that day and sold him the rides bracelets, and contacted my manager at the time to contact the full time staff member).

Back to the regular topic. It really would not surprised me if they simply didn`t use the Action FX Theater at KI because of its off the beaten path location. At other parks, that is not the case. But because that end of Coney Mall is just kind of dead, there isn`t anything other than the restroom, the sometimes open EuroBungy and The Vortex exit to attract people to that ride.