Guest TombraiderTy Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Fireworks can be very expensive. And often with little or no return on investment, unless you make them special (like what Coney does with July 3rd and now the fireworks competition). I'd have to disagree with little or no return on investment. Similar to Cedar Point's Luminosity or Six Flags' Glow-in-the-Park parades, fireworks encourage guests to stay at the park into the night and potentially spend more money on food, games, merchandise, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Brad Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I predict that there will be be a new diving show theater for 2013. Yesterday at Happy Halloween Weekends, while in line for the Raven, my boys asked where the dive show was. "It's right over......oh. It's gone." That's right, completely wiped off the map. No concrete, no dive tank visible. No nothing. I did see the benches neatly lined up near the woods, and a bulldozer nearby. Later on the kind employee at Goblin Burger confirmed my suspicions that "they are probably just rebuilding the theater". I hope so, since we always enjoy the dive show. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOFreak Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Now that I think about it, that sounds like an extremely plausible hypothesis ya got there! I do recall seeing that (minus the bulldozer) on my trip on the 6th. I thought it was just annual offseason preparation, But you may be on to something. I can recall countless times that the dive show has been absolutely packed with viewers. Almost blocking the midway somedays. In addition, I have seen the word "improvements" thrown around by Holiday World PR. So this could make alot of sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOFreak Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Okay, this is just a general land ownership/taxes information. I was digging around on the land parcels map around Holiday World and was looking at the subdivision due north of the park. And I found out that some of the parcels in that area are owned by Koch Development Cooperation, while some other parcels are listed as being owned by Holiday Village Sub Div. Now, I dug a little deeper and recognized that Koch Development Cooperation had been documented for paying taxes on a good number of these parcels. What does this mean? Would that mean Koch Development would own these parcels and do what they wish on the land? I'm not too informed on this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Just got the latest email newsletter from HW. According to it, the 2013 "additions" will include something for each park plus the renaming of a major ride. The announcement will be made via their website and on Facebook next Tuesday. So now we know it's more than just one new thing. What could they be? And what ride are they renaming? Let the speculation begin! (as if it hadn't already begun ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Why would they rename a major ride? And two things it could mean anything! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastrider97 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I wonder what ride will be renamed! I can't see it being one of the 3 wooden coasters, maybe something in the waterpark with new themeing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOFreak Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 My guesses: renaming of the Sparkler, the new rumored dive theatre, and whats new in SS is beyond me. I have no clue in that department. Please don't get any hopes up guys. I'm expecting a repeat of 2011 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 And why exactly would they rename a ride that just opened this season? My hunch says it will be another ride. They surely must have a reason for renaming said ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 I would hardly consider Sparkler to be a "major" ride anyway. Pilgrim's Plunge, the three woodies, and possibly Liberty Launch are the only rides in the dry side of the park that I would consider "major". Given that, I'm leaning toward the renaming occurring in the waterpark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 They're renaming Pilgrim's Plunge and promoting it as a new ride. It's accessible by both parks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 If only it were that simple! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki lover Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 On a little side note here, but for those of you that have been, how have the crowds been at Happy Halloween Weekends? I'm going Saturday and would like to know. I also heard that The Legend is already closed for the season due to track work. Which if you think about it, it is the 3rd best of the woodies, but still. Anyways, Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Hey now! Legend is my favorite of the three. I'm gonna take a guess and say the water park is getting more cabanas. The ones they put in this season seemed to always be sold out. Making more of them is like printing money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 ^^ At least the first weekend, the crowds are nearly nonexistent. It's a great time to visit the park. I'm not even a park show watcher, and I enjoyed their Halloween music show. Their "haunted" house is neat, too, and I found the corn maze fairly entertaining. The rides, of course, are wonderful as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki lover Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Thanks!^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Brad Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 KI lover, this past Saturday the lines were mostly short. There was 1 train operation on both coasters, which meant average lines of 15 minutes on the Raven, and 20-25 on Voyage. Depending on the row and time of day, you can probably find 5 minute waits too. I don't think you've got anything to worry about with the crowds. The line for the corn maze looks longer and slower than it really is. Make sure you explore the entire park and look for the dioramas, they are fun. I hope you have as much fun as we did! For more info, check out my post in the trip reports forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Brad Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 My guess for the "renaming" is Raging Rapids. While not a "premier" ride, I think it's fair to call it a "major ride". Plus, it's the only dry ride who's name and logo are not really themed to the area. In the water park, my guess the "the Wave" (pool), for the same reasons. Based on my track record with guessing Holiday World announcements, you can be certain it won't be those. ;^) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 From the HoliWood Nights Group on Facebook (link): I hope they don't change any of the coaster's names... To which Dan Koch responded: Never more cried the Raven. If that's a hint, it's well disguised. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Islander Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 As soon as I saw a ride was to be renamed, I thought "Prithee, any ride but the Raven!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I keep running through my mind all the rides at Holiday World and thinking of new names for them that would fit; the one that I would like changed the most is Raging Rapids, because it really has nothing to do with the 4th of July. The problem is, what would it be renamed to? Edit: I could also see Dasher's Sea Horses being renamed/rethemed. Sea horses? What? I never understood it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki lover Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Edgar Allen Poe rose from the dead and demanded that the name of the Raven be changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOFreak Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 No way. Theres no way the Ravens name can be changed. That's a legendary coaster. (no pun intended) It's like editing the words in the bible. It's a sin, a sin, I tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Brad Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Re: Dan Koch and The Raven: For weeks in 2005 Paula had me thinking that their "eggcellent" new section would be Easter. Do not believe those misleading sneaky red herring throwing Holiday World folks for a second. ;^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki lover Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 There is a Movie coming out called The Raven, maybe the movie makers payed HW to change the name? I sure hope not tho! The Raven is the coolest named coaster out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOFreak Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I do believe that "Dog Fart" takes the cake for best coaster name. http://rcdb.com/1332.htm The literal translation of the coaster, Hundeprutterutchebane, in Danish is "dog fart" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 This was in their newsletter. We have lots in store for you next year and can't wait to share news of the additions headed our way. That's right, we said additions. Do we have your attention yet? Stay tuned for the 2013 reveal - something for each park, plus the re-naming of a major ride. We'll have the update in next week's newsletter (if you'd like to know sooner, watch our website and Facebook page for the announcement Tuesday). The quote button is giving me a hard time again. It never works right for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncars05 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 And why exactly would they rename a ride that just opened this season? My hunch says it will be another ride. They surely must have a reason for renaming said ride. A theory I have for Sparkler being renamed is the ride was named through a naming contest and they might be having second thoughts about it. I'm just not sure though because there are plenty of examples of fan named rides that have been used for decades. I do believe that "Dog Fart" takes the cake for best coaster name. http://rcdb.com/1332.htm The literal translation of the coaster, Hundeprutterutchebane, in Danish is "dog fart" I love the theming of that big dog taking a leak on the tree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_SoB_fan Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Is Voyage getting the timberliners next year? If sop they may retheme it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I doubt they would change the name of Voyage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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