homestar92 Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Y'all are wizards at decoding this blueprint. I still can't fully make it out. I kind of get it til the z shapes, then I'm thrown big time!!!! Hate to double-post (I'm sure somebody else will post by the time I finish typing anyway...) but the Z shapes are loops. think about how a loop would look if you were perfectly above it, and it'll start to make more sense. 1
sheikra_rocks Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Who says we're not getting something that hasn't been done before? Like a new type of inversion trickity trick. I mean, I know King's island wouldn't really like to go with something not a safe bet but you go to take a risk somtimes. ( Okay you don't but I'm just putting it out there they might throw a curve-ball at us. Witch I really hope they do. Okay, Glenda. "It's Galinda, with a Ga." Actually, we're both wrong. It's Glinda, spelled with an "i", but no "Ga". From Wiki's page on 'Wicked' : "In an attempt to impress Fiyero, Galinda announces that she will change her name to "Glinda" in honor of Doctor Dillamond's persistent mispronunciation. Fiyero fails to notice and leaves." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_%28musical%29 ACT 1, paragraph 6 1
Kat Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Y'all are wizards at decoding this blueprint. I still can't fully make it out. I kind of get it til the z shapes, then I'm thrown big time!!!!Hate to double-post (I'm sure somebody else will post by the time I finish typing anyway...) but the Z shapes are loops. think about how a loop would look if you were perfectly above it, and it'll start to make more sense. Ohhh ok when you state it like that, yeah it does make sense now! thanks for clarifying!
Kat Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Different trains and 90 degree lifts. Completely different. Ah. Ok. I'll have to go look that up, then
Kat Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Woah. Nice. I couldn't make out that it was a 90 degree lift in that video. Now I wanna go on it lol. It would freak me out soooo bad but it would be fun! 1
YoungStud Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 If only b&m could learn from vekoma on OSTR's....
YoungStud Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 None of them opened with the parks cause they had been down for weeks. I was lucky enough to be at the parks at the right time. As soon as they started doing test runs mid/late day the whole park ran to them. Like people used to run to TTD.
FoF96" Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Off topic but the first Vekoma I ever rode gave me the worst headache due to how rough the trains were... It was T2 1
gingerkid Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 On the verge of finding coaster height, anyone know what the elevation of the park is, or even better, right where thunder alley use to be?
THE_BEASTmaster Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 More speculation: I was actually thinking dive machine the other day after looking at the blue prints. 1. We do not know the height of the ride. 2. The turn at the top of the lift could just be a turn, ala SheiKra and Griffon. 3. Dive machines use big swooping valleys at the bottom of their first drop. That would account for the distance between the turn and first inversion. 4. The loop on the blue print that circles the lift looks a bit wide at the base, possibly to allow for a wide train. 5. Depending on how the Maintenance barn is built, 4 dive trains could possibly fit in there. SheiKra for example has 2 maintenance bays that hold 5 trains. 6. A dive machine of this size would hold every world record for dive machines to date. Height, length, number of inversions. 7. Isn't a multi looping dive machine the logical next step? Considering wing trains are almost as wide as the 8 across dive machine trains. Laterals would be similar. I can not find a Sheikra blue print, but i sure it would look somewhat similar to this new KI blue print. A direct overhead view, without reference to height and such. Please look at this post real good. http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27275-starting-to-decode-2014/?p=540105 I see that. I also see an extra wide base at the bottom of that loop. Raptor and Montu's loop is not that wide. And don't say it is like that because it goes around the lift... I cam calling it.... DIVE MACHINE Then explain Dragon Challenge. 1
Kat Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 I find it so very fascinating that Invertigo is the same colors as déjà vu, or very very similar!!!
gingerkid Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 On the verge of finding coaster height, anyone know what the elevation of the park is, or even better, right where thunder alley use to be? ?Anyone?
tubaman Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Ninja. Six Flags Over Georgia. I consider that thing at least county breaking. Well I'm a little late to the criticize Ninja party, but I will say it was one of the worst ride experiences I have ever had. But, there was no line so we stayed on the train and rode it for a second time...and got the same result. 1
sheikra_rocks Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 More speculation: I was actually thinking dive machine the other day after looking at the blue prints. 1. We do not know the height of the ride. 2. The turn at the top of the lift could just be a turn, ala SheiKra and Griffon. 3. Dive machines use big swooping valleys at the bottom of their first drop. That would account for the distance between the turn and first inversion. 4. The loop on the blue print that circles the lift looks a bit wide at the base, possibly to allow for a wide train. 5. Depending on how the Maintenance barn is built, 4 dive trains could possibly fit in there. SheiKra for example has 2 maintenance bays that hold 5 trains. 6. A dive machine of this size would hold every world record for dive machines to date. Height, length, number of inversions. 7. Isn't a multi looping dive machine the logical next step? Considering wing trains are almost as wide as the 8 across dive machine trains. Laterals would be similar. I can not find a Sheikra blue print, but i sure it would look somewhat similar to this new KI blue print. A direct overhead view, without reference to height and such. Please look at this post real good. http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27275-starting-to-decode-2014/?p=540105 I see that. I also see an extra wide base at the bottom of that loop. Raptor and Montu's loop is not that wide. And don't say it is like that because it goes around the lift... I cam calling it.... DIVE MACHINE Then explain Dragon Challenge. Clearance for if 2 trains were to pass each other at this point. You do not want people to hi 5 the other people at a compbined speed of 100 + mph. Dragons was designed as a dueling coaster, however, the red track is longer. Thus was more prone to block a the top of the lift hill when running a 3 train op on each track. The blue side would continue, then the red side would start back up once the block was clear. Thus passing here was possible. (Experienced several times) The red side would have to be early at this section, but on the other side of the loops it would have to be late. They don't run them simultaneously anymore though.
YoungStud Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 I liked ninjas restraints better than Vortex's personally
upstop Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 How to you think they will dress the coaster with tunnels or terrain dives etc? With a tutu and slippers...seriously, I think there will be a really cool plaza....and that's all folks. 3
sheikra_rocks Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Some posters are just trollin beast master You're 5 word sentences bashing every other coaster designer other than Intamin is not trolling? Okay. 1
Kat Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 I'm sure I will get bashed for this but the worst ride experiences I ever had: 1. SoB - DANG I hated that thing!!!! Beat the heck out of me, I was in so much pain. I cried.... 2. Greased Lightning - two words: shoulder. harness!!!! If ever a ride needed them, it was that!!! I screamed in fear bc I really thought I was going to fall out. It sure felt like I was!!!! Maybe that lap bar was enough for larger people but not small people like me!!! I hated both and are glad both are gone!!!
YoungStud Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Speaking of high fiving. I love to grab someones arm on Gemini and hold on for the longest time 1
Beast1979 Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 I hate to agree with YoungStud, but...this almost certainly looks like an invert. The layout looks like a miniature Montu, which I think is a VERY good thing. The blueprints have made me even more excited for the announcement on Thursday, not less. I'm eager to see the theme, name, specifications of this ride. 5
secondson Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Whoever claimed we weren't posting enough tonight... *coughjcgoble3cough* ...sure is getting his fill now. I can't keep up with you guys. Y'all are wizards at decoding this blueprint. I still can't fully make it out. I kind of get it til the z shapes, then I'm thrown big time!!!! If you were to draw an overhead layout of a coaster, what would the loop look like? Here's a picture of the loops on Vortex. Notice the "Z" shape. Who says we're not getting something that hasn't been done before? Like a new type of inversion trickity trick. I mean, I know King's island wouldn't really like to go with something not a safe bet but you go to take a risk somtimes. ( Okay you don't but I'm just putting it out there they might throw a curve-ball at us. Witch I really hope they do. Okay, Glenda. "It's Galinda, with a Ga." Actually, we're both wrong. It's Glinda, spelled with an "i", but no "Ga". From Wiki's page on 'Wicked' : "In an attempt to impress Fiyero, Galinda announces that she will change her name to "Glinda" in honor of Doctor Dillamond's persistent mispronunciation. Fiyero fails to notice and leaves." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_%28musical%29 ACT 1, paragraph 6 I'm talking about Glinda the Good Witch from "The Wizard of Oz". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz_(1939_film) Anything else? 3
fryoj Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 On the verge of finding coaster height, anyone know what the elevation of the park is, or even better, right where thunder alley use to be? ?Anyone? 752 feet according to this site. http://www.daftlogic.com/sandbox-google-maps-find-altitude.htm 1
Kat Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 I hate to agree with YoungStud, but...this almost certainly looks like an invert. The layout looks like a miniature Montu, which I think is a VERY good thing. The blueprints have made me even more excited for the announcement on Thursday, not less. I'm eager to see the theme, name, specifications of this ride. While not OFFICIALLY announced, I have yet to hear anyone argue that the name WON'T be Banshee that's what I'm calling it, because that's what I believe it is lol. 1
Kat Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Whoever claimed we weren't posting enough tonight... *coughjcgoble3cough* ...sure is getting his fill now. I can't keep up with you guys. Lol!!!! I can't keep up either!!! Every few seconds I get several pop-up notifications about replies!! 1
Coaster Addict Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 I hate to agree with YoungStud, but...this almost certainly looks like an invert. The layout looks like a miniature Montu, which I think is a VERY good thing. The blueprints have made me even more excited for the announcement on Thursday, not less. I'm eager to see the theme, name, specifications of this ride.While not OFFICIALLY announced, I have yet to hear anyone argue that the name WON'T be Banshee that's what I'm calling it, because that's what I believe it is lol.Some have jokingly said "Corn" or "Hooters". In all honesty, I'm still on the "Hooters" fan wagon. 4
gingerkid Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 On the verge of finding coaster height, anyone know what the elevation of the park is, or even better, right where thunder alley use to be? ?Anyone? 752 feet according to this site. http://www.daftlogic.com/sandbox-google-maps-find-altitude.htm Thanks! Darn, I thought I was onto something when I saw "Ride Manufactures elevation 755ft MSL" on the blueprints. Thanks for looking.
gingerkid Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 And in sadder news KI is no longer trending on Yahoo. 1
Kat Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Whoever claimed we weren't posting enough tonight... *coughjcgoble3cough* ...sure is getting his fill now. I can't keep up with you guys. Y'all are wizards at decoding this blueprint. I still can't fully make it out. I kind of get it til the z shapes, then I'm thrown big time!!!! If you were to draw an overhead layout of a coaster, what would the loop look like? Here's a picture of the loops on Vortex. Notice the "Z" shape. Ooh thanks for sharing! Much clearer now that I see that image vs trying to imagine it in my head!!! Very nice! 1
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