CP&LERR Fan Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I read something about the Gemini had three trains on each side is that true? Some guest said they saw some old coasters inside the meanstreak structure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Yes they used to be run 3 trains per side. And yes they are one Blue train, and one Red Train that can be seen inside the Mean Streak's center. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Point Gal Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I also read that Gemini had three trains at some point as well. You can see the remaining red and blue trains sitting in Mean Streak's infield. I've seen them myself.(Sorry, I don't have any pictures of them because I saw them while riding Mean Streak.) I also know you can see either a yellow or purple Double Loop car sitting there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP&LERR Fan Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Never knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 They were considering using the extra Gemini trains on the Mine Ride a few years back. They even had one of the trains on the tracks for testing, but I guess they decided against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 ^quite a few hefty modifications would have been necessary. There are many similarities don't get me wrong, but there are quite a few large differences. I was amazed the day I saw them try it out too. I may even have the pic somewhere because that was going on my year pre season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 With all the trains running, Gemini had the highest capacity of any coaster in the world. The lines flew, you never stopped walking until you got to the station. It was quite amazing. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 When were the 3rd trains taken off the circuit? Any specific reason know to the GP of why they were taken off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride On_17 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I have several guesses: Less ridership, too much stacking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Ride stacking/hit interval better with two trains than three, just the typical arrow curse. Also it's a safety issue, with having only photo eyes w/ the PLC & manual station braking, the ride stops in any drop of rain like TTD, with three trains it's harder to unload everyone safely and get the trains all stopped. With two trains the ride can shut down with weather quicker than three train op. Also, gemini is one of the few rides that can not transfer off, if it gets stopped in transfers, it has to be winched back to the station or up 1/3rd of the lift 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 That's great. Now could you explain in English, please? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingless92 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I knew that they had 3 trains but that was a long time ago. I have never waited very long for Gemini. Plus I only ride when the blue side is running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Photo eyes=imagine a laser crossing the tracks path, anything crosses it for a period of time, sensor=tripped Limit switch=little tab the train actually comes into contact with and moves These sense where the train is at certain sections of the track, it's how block systems/brake systems work So if it rains, these sensors get hit/blocked, thinks a train is there, when it isn't. It's a safety issue, especially at the trims before the final return loop. Next time you ride, see how many photo eyes are on those things (at night you'll see a red glow) Now the station, this is one of the few manual rides. The train is stopped by each person in controls manually, IE they have to control the braking (which is why you hear the brakes spaz as it goes into the station, or plays "music" lol, I've heard eye of the tiger, or epic double base drums before). Anyways, manual braking & photo eyes, rain, not a good combo. If it skids past, the trains have to be unlocked manually & that's kind of an evac, or it overshoots, and goes into the next block (transfers, which means if it stops there it has to be winched back to station/lift hill), and then sets up the rest of the ride (as soon as a train hits any brakes, it's ganna get stopped). So weather and gemini don't mix. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Ah. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 No problem...I like being able to share ride knowledge, I have both the enthusiast side, and the ride op knowledge to go with. Plus I have that, engineering, how does it work, want to know everything mentality, so I'm crammed with this stuff lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomTheater Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 What killed 6 train ops on gemini was the instillation of seatbelts and gates. They slowed the dispatch times enough to cause stacking issues, the same happened with corkscrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 What killed 6 train ops on gemini was the instillation of seatbelts and gates. They slowed the dispatch times enough to cause stacking issues, the same happened with corkscrew. OK, when I first saw that, I thought that six people ("train operators") had been killed on Gemini, and I was wondering, "Why haven't I heard of this before?" I had to read it twice to figure out that you were talking about six-train operation. Whew! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Yup...curse of the arrows... Ah well, could be worse honestly. Safety over efficiency if we haven't learned from other threads yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayzayd13 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Anyway with 2 trains per track it has great capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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