ArrowOwnzU Posted February 3, 2004 Posted February 3, 2004 10. Psycho Mouse 9. Orient Express 8. Loch Ness Monster 7. Dragon Mountain 6. Big Bad Wolf 5. Drachen Fire 4. Tennessee Tornado 3. Phantom's Revenge 2. Magnum XL-200 1. X Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted February 3, 2004 Posted February 3, 2004 Can't help but agree with #1, but isn't Phantom's Revenge technically a Morgan, or something like that now? Quote
Grunts Rock Posted February 3, 2004 Posted February 3, 2004 I agree with most of those you posted. Drachen Fire would be cool as long as they did a little smoothing of the ride. I would also go with Big Bad Wolf as long as it would have the same setting and scenery and would replace Top Gun. You have to go for Loch Ness Monster and Orient Express just because they are so unique. The only others I would ad would be maybe the Pepsi Max Big One from BPPB and Anaconda from PKD as long as they replaced the OTSR's with lap bars (and same setting of course ) As for Phantom's Revenge, it is still technically an Arrow creation that Morgan modified or retracked. Quote
JIMMY JAMZ Posted February 4, 2004 Posted February 4, 2004 Well since your including Drachen Fire ,Then I would have to say Steel Phantom instead of Phantoms Revenge.But as you can see from my signature My number one on the list would have to be Steel Phantom.And if we have to include any rides from Busch Gardens they would definatly have to loose some of the trim brakes,They are really trim brake happy at Busch Gardens. Quote
StXBomber Posted February 5, 2004 Posted February 5, 2004 Move X to the bottom, and you have a list! X was sooooo overrated it isn't funny. Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 Move X to the bottom, and you have a list! X was sooooo overrated it isn't funny. One more anti-Arrow comment like that and you're outta here, mister! Quote
Stitch Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 While Arrow Is Old tecnology I would have to say I have at least a top three. 3. X (SFMM) 2. Viper (SFMM) 1. The Bat (PKI) I know All The Reasons Why Bat was removed so there is no need to "Educate" me on it, it's number one because that's Arrow coaster I want ride most. Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 While Arrow Is Old tecnology I would have to say I have at least a top three. 3. X (SFMM) 2. Viper (SFMM) 1. The Bat (PKI) I know All The Reasons Why Bat was removed so there is no need to "Educate" me on it, it's number one because that's Arrow coaster I want ride most. The Bat was removed due to the fact that the turns weren't.... just kidding. Yeah, I've heard The Bat was one of the best coasters ever. Quote
StXBomber Posted February 7, 2004 Posted February 7, 2004 Boddah, I'm not anti-arrow, just anti-X. I love all of PKI's arrows, specially Vortex. I also got to ride Viper, which was an amazing ride. It's just that X was horrid. Design flaws everywhere. Quote
Stitch Posted February 7, 2004 Posted February 7, 2004 Well I have never ridden X so I can't say anything about it's ride quality but I can say that I have the upmost respect for it, there aren't enough unique rides out there. I think that Arrow's 4D design is genius, sure there are flaws but they can be worked out, take Bat for instance, the first successful suspended coaster and it was plauged by mechanical problems like X. I hope that the 4D design can be perfected so that there will be more of them but if the future of the 4D design is like that of the Suspended it will most likely fade out and die. Quote
StXBomber Posted February 7, 2004 Posted February 7, 2004 I have the same thoughts. The idea was great (I even came up with something VERY similar about a year before it was announced), but the roughness made it incredibly painful, and I couldn't even see what was happening because I was in so much pain. Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted February 7, 2004 Posted February 7, 2004 Well, in the defense of the ride, you did tell me you rode in the back, which is, from what I hear, the worst seat in the house. Quote
StXBomber Posted February 7, 2004 Posted February 7, 2004 Yeah, so I've heard too. But a ride shouldn't be so painful that you can't pay attention to the ride in any seat that you sit in! Quote
crazydude Posted February 14, 2004 Posted February 14, 2004 Ok, Look, X kicks major bootay! Any seat is good. The best 2 however (smoothest as well) are right side inner seat front row and right side outer seat back row, they both give incredible ride experiences. i've had the opportunity to sit next to english people in both those seats....THEY BOTH LOVED IT!!!! Get over it you guys, X is great... And thats coming from someone whos ridden it a huge amount of times. Oh and one more thing... As to what Coasterguy said about suspendeds... The suspendeds do live on...but in a way that I hope 4D's do not...A VEKOMA! -Spike Quote
StXBomber Posted February 14, 2004 Posted February 14, 2004 *sat in outer seat, back row* right seat from the way you are facing, or right seat in the way the train moves? And X still is my least favorite ride. Quote
Stitch Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 This topic is starting to turn into a debate on weather or not Arrow rides are fun, so this is moving to the battle room. Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 This topic is starting to turn into a debate on weather or not Arrow rides are fun, so this is moving to the battle room. lol.. I think this is the first top 10 we've had to move into the battle room. Oh, and Arrows are fun.. they're... the best! Quote
flightoffear1996 Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 IMO arrows are one of the best coaster companies out there. Arrow is not one of those companies like B&M and just make one good layout and put clones of it all around the world, Arrow may be on the rough side but that is what makes a coater great. No one has gotten seriously hurt or killed due to a desgin flaw (i dont think) from just riding and arrow rollercoater. These coaster are truely the best out there Quote
Stitch Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 Arrow's big problem is their rides don't age well, almost every Arrow ride in existance started out with smooth rides, but now all you seem to hear is how painful the ride is. I think it's a combination of both track work and the trains. The trains for Vortex for example, have no padding anywhere and the restraints are very hard and unforgiving. If they could add some more padding to them like the did with Son of Beast the ride would be excellent. Quote
flightoffear1996 Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 Sorry but once again we have got a complainer. I dont know if its just me but im around 6'1 and I have no problems with any roughness on any ride. Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 I'm also somewhere between 6'2 and 6'1, and the only roughness problem I have is with SOB, which isn't even that bad if you know where to sit. I still would never have classified The Vortex as being rough if you guys didn't bring it up. Quote
Grunts Rock Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I'm about 6'0" and we have the Anaconda here, which is Arrow of course. It can be pretty rough if you don't know how to hold your head back. I really wish that they would change Anaconda over to lap bars only like Premier did on FoF. That would make the ride so much more enjoyable, but it's an awesome ride anyways :thumbsup: Quote
Stitch Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Sorry but once again we have got a complainer. Well If voicing your opinion is now considered complaining then I am a very big complainer lol. Good Grief Quote
flightoffear1996 Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Well I get kinda of angey when I hear alot of my friends say how PKI sucks and doesnt compare to other parks and so on and so on. How all the other parks every the best coasters over. I mean whats wrong with arrow. Yes their rides may seem a little on the rough side but they have the best layouts in the world. Dont get me wrong B&M has some great layouts also. In matter in fact many of the layouts are better than arrows but the one thing that I dont like about B&M is that they always are cloning rides. I know its not their fault its a business and buisness need to make money and parks want to save money by cloning rides. I really actually makes them lose money because a person may want to go to two diffent parks but if the two parks have them rides what reason is there to go to the other park it they are basilcy the same. See were im coming from. As for CoaasterGuy107 Im sorry if it seemed that I was making fun of you I didnt really come out they it sounded. This goes for life as well as theme parks. No every notices the good things parks do but if they do something wrong someone points it out. Everyone knows about Black Friday at least i think that is what it is called. Anyway 2 people died in the park on the same day and everyone knows about it but now when the park would donate a day closed for the metaly ill people would ( not that it ever did) would every one hear about that probaly not. As were im going with this is that arrow has the best layouts but the one little flaw is a little roughness and that doomed them from that start. Now I know B&M to have the worst layouts but the smoothest track and that is way arrow is one of the best manufactors in world IMO. Quote
JIMMY JAMZ Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Well the first steel coaster I rode was an Arrow.(Double Loop,Geauga Lake back in the late 70s) Ever since then I've been addicted to coasters. I love Arrow loopers.and I get kinda sad when I see one taken out.Yes they are kinda rough.(but hey if you can't appreciate the roughness that comes with it then you just ain't a true coaster enthusiast) I've also rode B&M coasters and yes they are very smooth,and I also enjoy them.(Its kinda like going four wheeling in the woods either you can feel the ride in an old Jeep CJ as compared to going out in the woods in an Escalade their both fun but you can "feel the ride" in a Jeep) My favorites are and probably will alway be Arrows. Quote
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