PKI Punk Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I want an MF clone. Hell yeah, I agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveTheSmurfRide Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Has KI ever actually "cloned" a coaster before? I know they've built coasters that have been cloned at other Paramount parks after KI built them first, but have they ever built a coaster that has been done the exact same way as anywhere else before them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoker8388 Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 ^I don't believe so FOF was built at the same time as the one at PKD. KC was built before the one at PKD or PCW. And Racer although similar is different then Rebel Yell and was built before. All of PKI's rides that are the same as another parks were built at the same time like IJ:ST. Unless you consider Face Off a clone becuase of the boomerang shape, but i think it was the first built with seats facing each other so I'm not sure if thats a clone or not. I'm personally glad PKI dosen't have many clones and I would hate to see an MF clone at PKI. I mean MF is sweet but if I want to ride MF I will drive up to CP and ride it. If PKI gets a hyper or giga I hope its unique and found no where else. That's the problem with Six Flags they repeat way to many of their rides at way to many parks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveTheSmurfRide Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Yeah, when I meant "clone" I meant something exactly like another park. So if Face-Off was the first to have seats facing both ways, I don't consider it a clone. In that respect, I wouldn't mind KI getting something just like MF, as long as it doesn't have the exact same track layout. I mean, one could argue that B&M inverts are really just clones, like the difference between the Raptor, Batman: The Ride (just one of them) and Talon. They all have basically the same elements and types of inversions, but they're each different in some way (size, total inversions, speed) so I wouldn't call them clones. Just the same types. So I really wouldn't mind B&M or Intamin coming in and making a type of coaster that isn't a prototype, as long as it wasn't the exact copy of another coaster. *edit* To make myself clear, I do consider all the Batman: The Ride coasters at the Six Flags parks clones. I was just using the idea of one of them in comparison to Raptor and Talon. *end edit* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 (edited) Yeah, when I meant "clone" I meant something exactly like another park. So if Face-Off was the first to have seats facing both ways, I don't consider it a clone. Face-Off is a clone you will find the same coaster Invertigo at PGA. Invertigo at PGA opened their coaster before PKI got Face-Off. Sorry I am not tring to bash just get the facts right. Also look at www.rcdb.com for dates and other facts. Edited April 2, 2005 by Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveTheSmurfRide Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 ^Well that answers that question. Might as well call us Six Flags Kings Island. That is kind of dissapointing though. I always thought KI's coaster's were unique when we first got them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 The Beast---->Son of Beast---->06-07 Beast Slayer Steel Hyper Twister, possible B&M or Intamin Id bet the Farm on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoker8388 Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Yeah, when I meant "clone" I meant something exactly like another park. So if Face-Off was the first to have seats facing both ways, I don't consider it a clone. In that respect, I wouldn't mind KI getting something just like MF, as long as it doesn't have the exact same track layout. I mean, one could argue that B&M inverts are really just clones, like the difference between the Raptor, Batman: The Ride (just one of them) and Talon. They all have basically the same elements and types of inversions, but they're each different in some way (size, total inversions, speed) so I wouldn't call them clones. Just the same types. So I really wouldn't mind B&M or Intamin coming in and making a type of coaster that isn't a prototype, as long as it wasn't the exact copy of another coaster. Yes, when I said I didn't want PKI to get a clone of something I meant the layout. I wouldn't want the layout to be the same as MF, but I really would like to see PKI get an Intamin hyper or giga coaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Yeah, when I meant "clone" I meant something exactly like another park. So if Face-Off was the first to have seats facing both ways, I don't consider it a clone. In that respect, I wouldn't mind KI getting something just like MF, as long as it doesn't have the exact same track layout. I mean, one could argue that B&M inverts are really just clones, like the difference between the Raptor, Batman: The Ride (just one of them) and Talon. They all have basically the same elements and types of inversions, but they're each different in some way (size, total inversions, speed) so I wouldn't call them clones. Just the same types. So I really wouldn't mind B&M or Intamin coming in and making a type of coaster that isn't a prototype, as long as it wasn't the exact copy of another coaster. *edit* To make myself clear, I do consider all the Batman: The Ride coasters at the Six Flags parks clones. I was just using the idea of one of them in comparison to Raptor and Talon. *end edit* Why consider them clones when they are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Yeah, when I meant "clone" I meant something exactly like another park. So if Face-Off was the first to have seats facing both ways, I don't consider it a clone. In that respect, I wouldn't mind KI getting something just like MF, as long as it doesn't have the exact same track layout. I mean, one could argue that B&M inverts are really just clones, like the difference between the Raptor, Batman: The Ride (just one of them) and Talon. They all have basically the same elements and types of inversions, but they're each different in some way (size, total inversions, speed) so I wouldn't call them clones. Just the same types. So I really wouldn't mind B&M or Intamin coming in and making a type of coaster that isn't a prototype, as long as it wasn't the exact copy of another coaster. Yes, when I said I didn't want PKI to get a clone of something I meant the layout. I wouldn't want the layout to be the same as MF, but I really would like to see PKI get an Intamin hyper or giga coaster. If we get a hyper or giga it better be an intamin. B&M has said before they won't build anything over 300' as of yet. Intamin builds more thrilling coasters than b&M does. Intamin puts no trims on their rides like the sros's and mf and so on, b&m trims them to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Intamin deffinately has a niche with their awesome Giga coasters and the sideless trains, but height doesnt make everything in a coaster. Look at Magnum, Apollo, Nitro, and Titan. Those are some great coasters and they are not enormous compared to todays standards. Dont overlook B&M because they dont go over 300ft, size isnt everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 "Those are some great coasters and they are not enormous compared to todays standards." They're not? I mean, really, how many coasters are actually 300+ feet? I can only think of Millennium Force, Top Thrill Dragster, Steel Dragon 2000, and Kingda Ka. I think that the hyper coasters are still giants, generally speaking. It's only in a park with a hyper coaster and a giga or strata coaster that would make the hyper seem small. I would like to see a B&M hyper installed at PKI, but I would bet that they would go with Intamin before B&M simply due to the high cost of B&M coasters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Christopher Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Face-Off is a clone you will find the same coaster Invertigo at PGA. Invertigo at PGA opened their coaster before PKI got Face-Off. Sorry I am not tring to bash just get the facts right. HangOver in Liseburg park was the first Vekoma Invertigo. Everything else is a clone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Gump Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 I hope we get some kind of flat in 06. I doubt we will get a coaster since we just got one. Brandon C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersNSich Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 I would like to see a somewhat repeat of 2003, with 2 new flat rides, including a new set of flyers, and maybe something from HUSS. I guess a Nick expansion is also due, possibly the return (in some form) of the antique cars. It would also be great if they could open a new fuill-service restaurant in the old International Restaurant space... renovate it into something informal, like an Applebee's or Friday's in that style, including a bar. I would also like to see an overhaul of the wood coasters, especially SOB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 If there is a Nick Expansion, a Super Saturator would be awesome. Absolutely the best family ride around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlopez Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 I think they shouls redo WWC and add some stuff to it, like waterfalls or something. Anyone else have any Ideas about it ? Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest faceoff Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Have a lift near the end off wwc and the have the raft fall into a giant toilet and be flushed. Make the end a giant splash. Don't forget the flushing sound effect. I am sure riders would be bowled over. LOL!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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