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See, for example, an additional wave pool which they deem big enough to double the size of the water park!

Where will you find a 200 foot wooden coaster? I don't know. I have no question that a company like GCI could do it right, but would they want to? Son of Beast is not the only example, but perhaps it's one of the best to show that wooden coasters really ought not try to do what steel coasters can. Modern steel coasters can reach astounding heights, and incredible speed, and do intricate, quick maneuvers. All of the "best" traditional wooden coasters have fun transitions, terrain-following layouts, and a speed and height that make the old-fashioned "bumpiness" a fun part of the experience. Why isn't that enough? Son of Beast decided to take statistics that had traditionally been reserved for steel rides (height, speed, inversions, length) and applied it to wood. Meanwhile, what if The Beast were made of steel? What would be the fun in its terrain-hugging curves and straight-aways if it were smooth as glass? Some might say the ride would be boring (though some say that as is). Personally, I have no doubt that GCI could build a really nice hyper-coaster made of wood. But would they want to? And if they did, would any clients wish to pay what they would ask? Likewise, I think if anyone build a successful looping wooden roller coaster, it would be Intamin (specifically, with their plug-and-play model). But how many tens of millions would they ask, and would any client find their asking price to be worth it? Maybe! What I gather from stories around here is that RCCA was the only company Paramount Parks could find that would build a wooden loop. Then, both companies egged each other on, back and forth, until they decided to break every other record along with it. I don't know how true it is, but it's a shame - if they'd waited just a few more years, they could've gotten Intamin instead (after all, Intamin plug-and-play coasters are the #2, #3, and #4 tallest / fastest wooden coasters after Son of Beast).

If someone isn't suggesting the oh-so-original thought that Son of Beast become "the world's largest bon fire," I am not having fun.

Fire is the park's natural enemy, but wouldn't it be worth it for the world's largest marshmallow roast?!? YUK YUK YUCK. ( It's been too long. We ought to advertise this site on Facebook.com/VisitKingsIsland to reinvigorate some quality discussions about Son of Beast. )

Does anyone wanna fill me in on the legality of leaving pets in cars, at least in Ohio, the Empire State of the South, or New Jersey?

And if the person before you spit...? Well, enjoy your ride! And now they get their quiet, and a gigantic, rustic mountain range in the shape of classic Cadillac tail fins to go with it. Are they having fun yet? Should've taken the 300 foot golden sphere, huh?

And with a train launching every 36 seconds, that's quite a bit of wear and tear!

Not that the public knows about at this point. Nothing's been released about the ride and observationally, nothing has been done to it. But of course, only one large attraction was announced for Cedar Fair's parks next season, where there have historically been two! GYK, spritzing the fire with gasoline.

I haven't made a judgement call about PizzaBaby's prediction. And if Kings Island does get a roller coaster taller than 456 feet and faster than 149 miles per hour, I will post the prediction all the same! I will also nominate him for a moderator position.

I suppose that answers my long-standing question of why Disney seems to have such a preference for Vekoma. I guess Vekoma has learned to roll over and do whatever Disney wants after all these Space Mountains and Big Thunder Mountains and Rockin' Roller Coasters and Raging Spirits and Indiana Jones Temples and Barnstormers...

Two was enough. GYK, who wasn't born, but knows that - adding it all together - about 2 years was enough. But let's distract them by flipping things backwards!

Trust PizzaBaby on this. At PizzaBaby's request, I have saved the following prediction, and will place it where the world can see the day that 2013's announcement is made. One wouldn't make a statement this bold unless one was on the ins with decisions makers, right?

Interesting. I didn't know that! Thanks!

This topic, or the loop removal? The topic is for fun, so I thought so. But concerning the loop removal, it's a good question. California Screamin' is an Intamin product, too, and has always run fairly smooth and (except for that bag-under-the-wheel-incident recently) without too many problems. Screamscape reported on it and theorized that AMEC may be coming in (who apparently did the rebuilding of Disneyland's Space Mountain) instead of Intamin. Why that would be necessary, I don't know, but like Terpy said I can't imagine it's just out of boredom. EDIT: One has to wonder, if California Screamin' has had three loops in ten years, maybe it's time for Vortex to get a new set...?

^ And without question, Six Flags Louisville would've attracted me more. It is in reasonably close proximity, after all, so there's no logical reason for me not to have visited except that I was turned off by the name. The double-k even came off as "hick-ish" to me, not unlike "Karl's Kar Kare" or the lovely tanning salon I pass in West Virginia, "Kalifornia Sun." Again, that's a product of the stereotype I have always had, but it's still important to acknowledge from a marketing standpoint. ^^ Six Flags Ohio lasted a whopping one year haha. I can see naming parks after destination states and cities (California Adventure, Six Flags St. Louis, Six Flags New Orleans), or if the park actually involves the state by chronicling its history or culture (for example, Six Flags Over Texas, Carowinds), or just as a location designation (Busch Gardens Williamsburg, Universal Studios Florida) but what's the attraction factor in a Six Flags Ohio or a Kentucky Kingdom for someone from New York, or Pennsylvania, or Virginia? I just imagine that "West Virginia Adventure" or "Missouri Kingdom" wouldn't interest me right off The Bat - first impressions and such... And yes, I did have a part in the KFC decision. You can also find my handiwork in McDonald's. Before my suggestion, it was Illinois McBurger.

I mean absolutely no offense to anyone from that state, but I have to say that, personally, the name itself keeps me away. 'Kentucky Kingdom.' Though most are probably unfounded, Kentucky has certain stereotypes associated with it just like any other state. My friends enjoy picking out who they imagine is from Kentucky vs. who is from Ohio when we visit Kings Island. I wouldn't visit "West Virginia Kingdom" if I lived in Ohio, and the idea of an "Ohio Adventure" would hardly get me to book a hotel if I lived in Kentucky. I mean, there are states that are very marketable in a sense, like "Six Flags Over Texas," or "California Adventure..." But Kentucky? If the park were named "Six Flags Adventure Kingdom" or something, I'd have gone in a heartbeat. It's not fair, but it's true for at least one person, and I really don't think I'm the only one who thinks that... I truly am not trying to offend anyone from Kentucky or any other state, but whether they're true or not, pre-conceived notions about states exist, and Kentucky is one of the states that I wouldn't paste a name on to sell it. I imagine that's something at least a few other people feel, but that no one says... Again, whether a stereotype is true or not is unfortunately irrelevant. The fact that it exists - rightly or wrongly - creates very real consequences. I'm not trying to come across as elitist or offensive at all, just stating the way I feel about the park. I think its name really limits out-of-state interest.

As well it should, I think. GYK, who just today purchased his up-charge, $64 ticket to a Halloween Party at the place where Cedar Fair's up-and-coming CEO once reigned... Not even a Premium Annual Passholder will get in for free on those nights, though they get a generous discount on the ticket (and the food, and the merchandise, and...)

And of all places, at Worlds of Fun, from $10 - $15. And in searching the other Cedar Fair parks, I found this on Kings Dominion's Haunt site: As the name implies, their Silver Pass is the equivalent to our Regular Season Pass, a notch below Gold. The fact that Haunt will not be included with their regular season pass would indicate that it will be an up-charge event for the general public, and that getting free access is [so far] a perk for Gold Passes and higher only. Since Kings Island is only advertising the Gold Pass right now and hasn't even made mention of the lower tier, we don't know yet if our Haunt will continue to be included.

ARTICLE: http://masonbuzz.com...ights-monsters/ A ride that is perfectly aligned in every way thematically to be the centerpiece of a Halloween celebration is listed among the likes of a yo-yo swing, a scrambler, and bumper cars... And to think there was a time it was easily the most marketable ride at Kings Island, and a different time when it was easily the most thrilling. Woof. What a toll 8 years can have on a $20-million dollar investment.

It's been reported that the ride was not allowed to resemble its former self in any way, which meant it could not have any relation to an ancient, mythical tomb, treasure-hunting, or ancient deities. Perhaps someone in a legal department somewhere decided to play it safe and remove all those carved stones and pillars, if that's true.

Son of Beast was the world's longest looping coaster. When its loop was removed, California Screamin' at Disney('s) California Adventure won the title. And now? Of course, this one's temporary while the loop is re-tracked as part of California Adventure's on-going refurbishment (and knowing Disney, it's also so that the ride can be re-tracked like the real wooden coasters it emulates - now that's dedication to themeing! ) Via Westcoaster.

I'm absolutely 100% sure that's false. The confusion probably arises because, again, the "very knowledgable, respectful young people" on Facebook confuse eachother back and forth and answer each-other's questions with their own guesses and lies. I recall someone asking, "Will WindSeeker drop like Drop Zone?" and a peer replying, "Well, it will drop, but not very fast. It'll drop when it lowers back to the ground." Technically, okay. Poor word choice, but yes the ride does lower to the ground. But it's back-and-forth, poorly worded, straight-up-wrong answers like that that de-escalated the page into confusion, worthless information, and 13 year olds who just learned out to swear and think they're awesome. Anyway, imagine... Swings that are all jutted out at a 45 degree angle from the speed at which they're spinning. If the ride dropped, even a few feet, what would happen to those swings that are being spun out from the central structure? Think about it, friends.

And coincidentally (or not), most every opening day since has been plagued with mechanical issues, staffing issues, long waits, closed rides, and unhappy guests, some or even many of whom paid to be there and don't get to come back on a "better" day like season pass holders can.

For a supreme collection of such know-it-all folks, read the park's Facebook page. I posted once on their Facebook, the day before the announcement of Soak City, because one particular fellow was absolutely POSITIVE we were getting a re-made Son of Beast and a new, 300 foot coaster. I explained that it was very unlikely if not impossible since no construction was visible, and he said, something to the extent of 'Screw you. You offended me. So seriously, screw you.' I'm not kidding. I haven't posted since. One of many reasons I wonder why Kings Island doesn't make their wall private like all Six Flags parks have. As it is, the park's Facebook page posts nothing but complainers and people who answer others questions incorrectly. It's a mess.

^ Probably in mid April.