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^ Thank you! Tanna, what you're talking about is called "virtual queueing," where a guest virtually reserves a spot in line. You used Disney's FastPass as an example, and you're right. That system is best thought of as "invisible bodies." You receive a ticket (or use a Q-bot handheld device at Six Flags or Dollywood), and from the moment the reservation is made, you will wait as long as everyone else, just not in line. So if the line is 50 minutes, you will ride in 50 minutes, you just have free time to do other things (like ride other rides, eat, shop, etc). What Kings Island (and SeaWorld, and Busch Gardens and Universal Studios) employs is not virtual queueing. You do not have a place in line that is being reserved. Instead, you simply get to skip the regular line by entering through a secondary entrance. To differenciate, I'll call it a "line-skipping system." You do not need to wait for a specified time, and you do not have to wait as long as those in the regular line. Most places with that system offer a low-cost version (where you can skip to the front on each major attraction one time, for example) and a more expensive "unlimited" version (where you can go to the front of the line as many times as you like all day long - you can even ride over and over and over again as long as you exit and re-enter again through the secondary queue line again). Kings Island's Fast Lane is that second type, and the park only offers the unlimited version. Both virtual queueing and line-skipping have their advantages. Virtual queueing theoretically promotes in-park spending by opening up free-time between rides that leads visitors to shopping and dining. Line-skipping passes (like Kings Island's) offer guests the chance to ride much more without setting reservations and waiting out their assigned time, and the park makes a large lump sum (in this case, $50) right off The Bat, so promoting in-park spending isn't of immediate importance. Using Disney's Fastpass as an example of virtual queueing again, the computer knows that x number of people will be in line for Tower of Terror during a certain hour of the day, and the distribution ticket's return time changes to make sure that there will not be a massive amount of people all flocking to the ride at once. The virtual queueing system, then, keeps crowds steady, but not overwhelming. Conversely, Kings Island's line-skipping system does not regulate or monitor, so it is possible (but unlikely) that every single person with a Fast Lane wristband might all decide to queue up for Diamondback all at once. If that happens, it'll look really bad to people in the regular line, who watch a dozen or so people "cut" in front of them as the operators try to get the Fast Lane visitors their promised ride. But again I stress, even if 32 people lined up in the Fast Lane for Diamondback at once, "regular" guests would only be delayed by one train (or about a minute).

You are right. And capitalism tends to tie in closely with supply and demand. Something tells me that these $50.00 will not be flying off the shelves. Let us suspend reality for half a second and say that 400 people bought this pass on any given day (which is absolutely nonsensical - the park would make $20,000 in one fell swoop), and that those 400 people divided themselves between the 10 available rides (that's 40 people per ride), they would fill about 1.5 trains / gondolas (based on most rides holding between 30 - 50 riders). As such, you would wait an additional one or two cycles (which would barely be noticeable), and the park would make $20,000. Again, that's a very simplified and in my opinion would never ever happen, but hopefully that helps you understand how little the guest experience will be realistically affected by this system outside of the "annoyance" of seeing someone "cutting" you, and how greatly the park will benefit. It's a testament to capitalism. This system, contrary to Disney's, is pretty much pure income. There are no machines or tickets, and comparatively little extra staffing. There are no Q-Bots or return time calculators, and no deposits necessary. Just a few additional signs and some marketing. The guest experience is barely affected for the "regular folks," and the park makes heaps of money. Really, there's little complaining to be done. At least, not yet... You pay extra for the floor seating at concerts. You pay extra for the booth with the food at the baseball game. You pay extra for the car with greater gas mileage. You pay extra to see the 3-D film. You pay extra to see the dinos. And now, you pay extra to wait less in line. That is life. Those with certain privileges (including money) to spend get more stuff, get less hassle, get better opportunities, and get places faster, even if it's unfair. Just recognize how little this will affect you as a regular guest in the regular line.

Good point. If it was cheap then everyone would get one and it would be pointless. Reading the comments on KI facebook is making me mad. Why are season pass holders so angry at this, its not like KI is making anyone pay more money its a choice. I know you payed a lot for your season pass but still it's not the end of the world. Just wait in the line like you always do and pretend the Fast Lane isn't even there. People are upset because this essentially allows people to legally "line jump" as long as you "bribe" the park with your $50. Bottom line is now the lines will be even longer for "regular folks." I hate the idea. Disney implemented the idea correctly with fast pass the virtual queue. Everyone is treated fairly and the same for no additional price. Patrons enjoy the park more and possibly spend more money cause they aren't stuck in line. Consider how few people will actually pay an extra $50.00 for this. Really consider that. Then consider them all divided among every ride in the park. Theoretically, it may sound very unfair. And perhaps in principle it is. But we shouldn't masquerade our anger at the unfairness and morality of it as a genuine concern for the "regular folks"... They will hardly notice the difference. You also can't really argue that it's better for the park financially to use the virtual queueing like Disney. Sure, with Disney's model there's a chance that visitors will spend their extra time eating, drinking, or shopping. But with Kings Island's version, the park will get $50 extra dollars, straight up, no questions asked, with very little additional cost on their end (no distribution machine maintenance, no extra staffing for food and shops, no staffing at distribution machines, no paper or ink for said machines). From the park's financial point of view, this system works. And while the image of two or three (or even ten) people cutting you in line feels very unfair (and in fact may be very unfair), the fact is that those three people will hardly make a difference in your real park experience, and at most you may be delayed one or two trains. Diamondback holds 32 riders. I doubt 32 people will even buy this pass on any given day (if they did, the park would make $1600, by the way), but if they did and all 32 of them cut you in line for Diamondback, you'd have to wait ONE additional train (which is, what one extra minute based on the dispatch rate?) Consider, if 40 people cut you for Drop Zone (which, again, I doubt 40 people will even have this pass on any given day, much less all be at Drop Zone at the same time) - you will wait one extra cycle. Just one. Would that really ruin your day? Again, the notion that these people are "cutting" you is certainly annoying. I agree with that. But a reasonable person calculates that they will wait for maybe an extra minute and a half, and the park is making - pardon the expression - an ass load of money. And this pass is not for us. It's not even for folks who visit the park frequently with friends. This is a very specialized offering that is aimed at infrequent visitors who only have the chance to visit Kings Island once or twice a year, and only on Saturdays, for example. As I said, if 40 people buy this pass for a day, the park has just made $2000. That seems unlikely to me. And please please please consider: Disney's system is very nice, but it is not free. A one day ticket to a Disney park will cost you $85.00 plus tax, and if you think that the Fastpass system isn't folded into that, you're crazy. Keeping that in mind, consider: maybe to outfit Kings Island with a universally-accessible FastPass style virtual queueing system (distribution machines, tickets, additional staffing, machine maintenance) would require that the park charge $70.00 for a one day ticket. Maybe you'd find that very much worth it on a Saturday in July. But what about in April? May? A Wednesday in June? August? During these times, most rides max out at a 10 minute wait. Would you use the Fastpass system then? Almost certainly, no. There would be no point... But you'd still be paying for it, wouldn't you? With a park the size of a Disney park, that extra, tacked on price that grants access to the virtual queueing is worth it year round, and all days of the week. At Kings Island, it wouldn't be. Let's at least see how this system works for at least one full day before we talk about it being the worst thing ever. (I'm not suggesting that's what you're doing, TheLip2, just trying to stage a pre-emptive strike against those here who will cast their opinions of the morality of this system under the guise of guest experience).

I would think that for rides like The Crypt and Invertigo and others that may be hard to construct a separate line for, going up the exit would be enough. Perhaps on The Crypt, three or four seats at the end of the one of the rows can have yellow-painted shoulder restraints or something, and an employee can stand there to have people skip them. Same with Invertigo, simply taping off a row or two in the main station and allowing only Fast Lane visitors to use those lanes by entering up the exit. Still, I maintain that I expect a one-time-per-attraction Fast Lane to appear sooner rather than later, and for the current unlimited variety to become Fast Lane UNLIMITED. After all, this system costs the park virtually nothing (with the exception of new advertisements and a few directional signs), so why not offer a $20 variety? I would absolutely invest in the $20 one, even if it only allows one ride on each attraction. But I won't be getting the $50 one. I don't really want unlimited rides, you know? So $50 isn't worth it for me. $20 for one line-jump per attraction would be, and it would cost the park very little extra to have both versions (limited and unlimited) functioning at once. The only thing working against that is that I'd have expected them to try limited FIRST, and THEN bring an unlimited option to the table based on the former's success... Maybe having the unlimited version first means they don't intend to introduce a limited one. Again, sad - I won't pay $50, but I would pay $20. No ifs, ands, or buts about it, that's $20 less than the park is getting from at least one customer, and isn't $20 better than $0?

Theoretically, the Flash Pass and other virtual queueing systems (which Kings Island's Fast Lane is NOT) do not change ride time, because you do wait just as long as everyone else, just not in line. But, there's and operations component to that, too, and things like the Gold Flash Pass and Platinum Flash Pass (as was mentioned) change it into something completely different. That being said, I paid $25 for that service at Six Flags Great America this week. That $25 entitled me to virtual queueing, so I could make a reservation on Batman: The Ride and then actually ride it about 45 minutes later. Kings Island's system (as far as I can tell) is unlimited, with no virtual waiting. You could theoretically get front of the line access to Flight of Fear again and again and again and again all day long if you wanted. Bearing that in mind, it should cost more than a Flash Pass, because it imposes far fewer limits. So $50.00 is reasonable in that regard. And really, if Kings Island's Fast Lane was $25 or $30, it would almost be ineffective, as that much freedom with no forced waiting between rides would make Fast Lane lines as long as regular lines. I think the pricing is about right (though, in the style of the Flash Pass, I think you should be able to pay $50 for one person, $80 for two people, $115 for three, etc. etc.), and that it's a unique take on the idea. We'll see if it works. I'm imagining that they'll introduce a more limited one-time-per-attraction pass for half the price like Busch Gardens did, and make this Fast Lane UNLIMITED into a more VIP experience. P.S., did anyone notice The Crypt is not available for Fast Lane? Neither is Vortex (though that may be updated once it's no longer down for repairs). Seems strange that a ride that does tend to garner quite a crowd and was brand new eight years ago is not included... Maybe they just couldn't figure out how to get folks past the regular line? (Rendezvous point?)

I think it may just be a rumor, honestly. I mean, I guess we'll see tomorrow, but... The new president and not-quite-yet CEO mentions his interest in a "fast pass" system and his intent to bring that into his new parks, and by the next week it is being officially announced? Either they're planning immediate implementation (which would've required that Lo-Q already has constructed and programmed hundreds of Q-Bots for use in the park), or they're planning for next season (which would raise the question - why bring it up now? Given that this isn't necessarily marketing-friendly before implementation, why bother even bringing it up until next spring? It seems unlikely to drive season pass sales, and even if it would, season passes aren't on sale yet...) And there's always the hope that they're considering something available to everyone like his former home's FastPass. I admit that I use the pay-for line-jumping options when I visit other parks, but I also admit that I think it's very unfair. And worse, I think some parks flaunt the paid-for line jumpers, halting the regular line and theatrically allowing the guests to merge ahead. But do it the wrong way, and the line jumpers do not come across as a living, breathing advertisement for the system,. I don't want to cut someone in line then come face-to-face with them once they're allowed to proceed after me, making snarky comments. Perhaps that's just the price of paying to cut?

Unfortunately (or fortunately) I think it has little to do with the age of the ride. Yes, it's quite "new," and was arguably a star attraction of the park just eight seasons ago and even for a few years thereafter. Sometimes, "new" rides (especially prototypes!) just don't work out. I think one could argue that The Crypt "isn't working out" in the same way that The Bat or Hypersonic XLC or Son of Beast didn't. Sometimes the cost (both financially and socially) of keeping a ride operating do not outweigh the benefits. As for the park placing a roller coaster in the building, I think it goes far beyond the idea that Flight of Fear already uses that idea (indeed, look at Disneyland's Fantasyland... How many four person, cart-driven, blacklight dark rides?). Moreso, it may be structural things... What is the building coded for? Where are the concrete footings at, and where would new ones need to be placed? Fire exits and staircases and wiring and... I think it'd be a long and confusing process to alter a building's codes, but I don't know for sure. I imagine that if the floor needed to be completely drilled out for new footings and the wall had to be removed to facilitate the removal of the TopSpin and the roof needed removed to lift in the coaster track and new doors and staircases needed to be added for evacuation and new levels introduced for maintenance and the building needed enlarged or widened... Pretty soon, isn't it easier to build something from scratch?

A spinning mouse? And I thought American Country in the Festhaus was a strange idea for a show... But really, a 700 pph capacity ride next to the parks two most famous? Isn't that exactly where we are now? And no matter how well you would theme such a wild mouse, wouldn't we end up with another Dark Knight? It would almost certainly be a "5" on Cedar Fair's thrill rating system, and as highly marketed as Dark Knight if not moreso. I just think that if the park gets a new ride, it needs to have a worthwhile capacity.

If TPR is to be believed, we'll find out tomorrow. I would feel pretty secure that it won't be a distribution-machine Fastpass style system though... So unless a new system is being devised, it'll probably be the Q-bot system (like Dollywood and Six Flags) or a card / wristband style (like Busch Gardens, SeaWorld, and Universal). As I said, I prefer the latter system. Though it only allows one ride on each major attraction (usually with a free "bonus'), it requires less work than the Q-Bot. Though, the Q-Bot does sort of "force" you to enjoy some of the smaller rides, dining, and shopping since you have to wait between attractions.

To be honest, I've thought that this would be a fairly good idea at Kings Island. Maybe not for us here, but I have gone to Kings Dominion and faced hour long waits for rides during the summer. As an infrequent visitor, I would easily have paid $20 per person (which is about what Six Flag's most basic version of the service goes for) to bypass that. I can see how an infrequent visitor to Kings Island would think the same. That being said, I think the best paid-for version of the system is SeaWorld / Busch Gardens. You get a little card and as associated wristband. An employee stationed at each included attraction uses a Sharpie marker to scratch out their ride's name on the little card. If you pay for the deluxe version, you get unlimited rides and they don't cross anything off. Their version requires no deposit on the Q-Bot, no lengthy training session, and no returning things to a non-centrally-located office after a long day. And on top of that, it requires little more than to place a "Quick Queue" sign with an arrow near the exit of each attraction. Another thing they do that I think is smart is blocking off one car of a coaster in the station, and that one car is reserved for Quick Queue visitors. That way, there's not that terribly awkward moment where the operator stops the line and lets you cut in front of people. You're in and then you're out without stepping in front of anyone or disrupting the flow.

Yeah, I really don't know why they would get rid of a roller coaster. That is why people come to theme parks mainly. What can bring up park attendance... adding a roller coaster, not removing one. And yes Top Gun would be a great addition to KI I think we are the only CF park without a Inverted like it. There are plenty of reasons to remove a roller coaster. In Great America's case, I would say that they recognized that Stealth had better potential at a larger, more metropolitan park like Carowinds (not to mention its removal allowed for the expansion of Great America's Boomerang Bay). Invertigo, meanwhile, can be marketed as new at a park like Dorney whose visitors likely haven't experienced an inverted, face-to-face boomerang, and because there was a lot of negative press around the ride last year when riders were stuck for a few hours on it... Those combined probably made the decision to relocate it a reality. Also, ask many people here - roller coasters are not always the main reason people go to theme parks!

I can see how it's a possibility. I was lucky enough to visit Six Flags Great America this week (my first and only visit outside of Six Flags Ohio / Worlds of Adventure) and was incredibly blown away. It was a beautiful park with incredible themeing and was incredibly clean and friendly. While in line for their Whizzer, I logged on to RCDB from my phone to see who had manufactured it and found that there was one at California's Great America, too. When I got home, I did more research and found that California's Whizzer is long gone... In fact, California's Great America has only seven roller coasters... Two of which are kids coasters. I looked at California's Great America's map when I got home to see the similarities and was completely blown away at how small it really is. Now, without Stealth or Invertigo, there are truly very very few large rides left. It does seem to be down that Geauga Lake path, and given the whole stadium ordeal, I can imagine the park is more trouble than it's worth... Maybe like Geauga Lake, it makes more financial sense to divvy up its few worthwhile rides. All I know is, if they close it I have a wish list of rides I'd like transplanted to Kings Island...

... Will do something spectacular? This isn't a "forecasting" thread or a rumors thread... It's just pointing out Canada's Wonderland's Starlight show. I then compared it to ours. But there are no plans to change ours at all or improve it or anything, so I don't know what you're suggesting we wait for... (And 11 years, nonetheless!) Ours is done, as is theirs. They're very different, but I wasn't suggesting that something spectacular will happen to ours. Haha GYK, confused and thinking that you may have meant to reply to another thread...

Let me just say - my opinion from the beginning was that our Starlight Spectacular should've been placed in the Tower Gardens. I know it's not huge. BUT, there is a defined pathway (following the white marble stones that used to have the film names) and some great places for neat effects. For example, back behind the carousel is an area where the marble path creates a wide circle. In the middle of that circle could be a parade float like at Cedar Points. Maybe with Snoopy and a bubble machine. Then, too, our tiny little mountain (the one that used to have the waterfall) could have a small show like Wonderland's projected on it. Sure it would be small, but it would grab people's attention and that little amphitheater built around the waterfall could have families gathered to watch it play through the 5 - 10 minute cycle. I just think that our Starlight Spectacular was a real missed opportunity for the park. Cedar Point's is literally immersive. It surrounds you. There's incredible orchestral music and probably a few hundred thousand LED lights, and little scenes celebrating the major holidays. The lights are around every tree and up into the canopies. Our Starlight show is a few stand-up stars in a grassy field, some lit up Peanuts cut outs, blue and white trees, a techno remix of the Charlie Brown song, and a Charlie Brown stripe on the Eiffel Tower. I think placing it in the forested Tower Gardens would replicate the feel of Cedar Points, and also allow us unique details like a tiny version of Canada's mountain show. Plus, the Gardens are already rigged with theatrical lighting. If a few LEDs were placed in the little waterways and ponds and they all changed colors, it would be indescribable. But instead... Sigh.

I'm not sure if anyone else has seen this, but I truly think this video is a must-watch! Canada's Wonderland's Starlight Spectacular is a little different from ours (and by that I mean a lot different), as they've used an incredible system of projectors to truly bring Wonder Mountain (their centerpiece opposite our Eiffel Tower) to life. I am absolutely amazed by this video. Consider that this is a three dimensional mountain that is being projected upon, so literally every inch had to be mapped so that the images could be projected over the curves and breaks and bumps, but appear as one cohesive image. Truly incredible, and something that they can perform nightly with little added expense and much less upkeep than ours. I also hear that their fountains change colors and animate to go along with the animations, turning into "lava" and strobing different colors for the appropriate scenes. Their official site reads: So it sounds as though International Street has been outfitted with new LED lights, too! So impressive. I would never have expected this.

Paramount: We couldn't quite get the fog machines to work on Italian Job or Adventure Express or Tomb Raider. But hey, you should give it a shot, Cedar Fair! I bet a big, smart, in-the-business owner like you could really do some good with them! Last laugh indeed!

So beaches, pool parties, water parks, and most especially- indoor water resorts are not for families anymore? That's what I'm saying. I find it outrageous that people are complaining about seeing "clad" people in the park when the water park has "clad" people all around. I realize the rules vary between the two, but how can one be "offended" at the theme park when the water park is supposed to be just as family friendly. I don't see what difference it makes if someone is a few hundred yards away at the water park. Why can you wear sweatpants in the parking lot of your workplace, but must wear a suit 10 yards away? I do see what you're saying, but understand that these rules are in place for the comfort of everyone. Wearing a two-piece bikini in the dry park is not appropriate for the location. Is it appropriate in a water park? To many, yes. But be it 10 yards or 10 miles away, the same girl in the same two-piece bathing suit looks misplaced and inappropriate walking around a dry park. "There's a time and a place for everything," they say. It's cultural. There are amusement parks in Japan that have very, very strict "no visible tattoos" policies. If you have a visible tattoo, you are asked to exit the park and may happily return once it's covered. In America, we have much less stringent policies on appearance in most situations. The one that is established at this particular theme park is that you cannot wear swim suits in the dry park. Like wearing suits to a job where no one but coworkers will see you, it is a socially constructed norm that the park chooses to enforce as a rule. It is expected behavior, and while biologically it has no basis, it is what our society has created.

I was thinking more along the lines of outrage from the Harry Potter fans that any roller coaster could be painted brown and slapped with a Harry Potter name.

My guess is that you heard the "Rainforest" track that plays during the first portion of the ride (the drop into the first tunnel, etc). And it does contain train whistles that are distant and very reminiscent of Expedition: Everest, so you're not crazy. I've uploaded it to Mega Upload so that you can download it here. I've also uploaded the station music (the Indiana Jones music with the conductor speaking over top of it) and the music from the finale tunnel where the idol curses you. That's all that I have in my Adventure Express library, sorry!

Right, but I'd call that a company issue that he's tackling. What I mean is, the man has glowing things to say about Cedar Point. He speaks of it often, and references individual rides as he favorites. He talks about his history there and how often he visits himself, and his favorite food stands. He raves about Millennium Force and gets photographed while on it. Have you ever heard him rave about a Kings Island ride? I mean, maybe he has. Maybe I just haven't heard it. I suppose I'm genuinely asking: did anyone hear him happily talk about Diamondback in 2009? Has he ever voluntarily discussed something about Kings Island, or any other park? I imagine the man's had more positive to say publicly about Mean Streak than he has The Beast... Regardless, the rides are turning. Didn't Ouimet call Knott's a crown jewel or something? Sure, he's intimately familiar with that park from heading up Disneyland Resort for so long, but my understanding of that is that he sees the value in its history and theme and family-friendly atmosphere. Maybe parks like Knott's and Kings Dominion really should be the "jewels." They are special.

Hey everyone! This season, I was lucky to have the opportunity to write up an official review for ThemeParkTourist.com of our own WindSeeker and Dinosaurs Alive, as well as Cedar Point's WindSeeker. If you've got the chance, it would be cool to get your input and have you read and react to my thoughts on the park this season. You can read my review of WindSeeker and of Dinosaurs Alive / themeing upgrades and post comments there as well. Thanks guys!

Yep, it really is Indiana Jones. Our park also plays music from Inception, Ride of the Valkyries, Harry Potter, Star Trek, and Oceans Eleven... Like PhantomTheater said, music liscencing works differently. Indiana Jones music has always played on that ride. My understanding (which may be flawed) is that the ride was originally intended to be themed to Paramount Pictures' Indiana Jones films, but at the last minute Disney paid (probably tremendously) for the rights to use the Indiana Jones property as an amusement attraction (likely for their 1995 Indiana Jones Adventure at Disneyland).

That's the thing that bothers me. Like the woman a while ago who raised hell over not being able to get on an Intamin ride at Cedar Point... It is the [oft neglected] responsibility of every visitor to a theme park to read and understand the rules and limitations for each ride before they board. But especially if you were missing a limb or had another severe impairment, wouldn't you have the common sense to ask? Of course, it's terribly tragic and I hate that it happened, but if you have a missing limb, don't be afraid to visit guest services and say, "Before I even bother, what can and can't I ride?" That's what they're there for.

I just think there are many, many valuable things that could be learned on a park level and applied at a corporate level. Perhaps it would do Mr. Ouimet some good to walk along the esplanade from the park's sign on 71 to the front gate around lunchtime. Maybe it would do some good for him to stand at the exit of The Crypt, or to just sit on a bench and listen to comments about Son of Beast by passersby. I'm not saying he should obsess over individual parks or rides, but when he hears a proposal for a change at Kings Island, I think he ought to know the layout of the park, the demographic, the attitudes of its visitors, and the rides already present at the park. In other words, when he hears "Michigan's Adventure" vs. "Kings Dominion" vs. "Dorney Park," he ought to have a very clear image of the park, the patrons, and the products. Maybe he needn't have an intimate knowledge of the park (have you ever heard Kinzel specifically speak about anything at Kings Island, be it The Beast or Diamondback? I don't think I have...), but he should know what each park looks like beyond their main offices. I don't think that the CEO should need a tour guide to lead him from one ride to another in a park, I guess. After a year or so, he should know how to navigate "his" parks, and should feel comfortable that he knows what it's like to visit.

He doesn't? To quote Cedar Fair's press release: Even if he were in no official position till January, I would view waiting until then to visit the parks MUCH stranger than visiting them ahead of his acquisition of the role... Meet the front office staff? Why? Don't you think that he wants to visit the park he is now in charge of? Perhaps not to queue up for every ride, but to get a sense of the patrons, the atmosphere, the attitudes, the employees? Mr. Scheid does it. Mr. Helbig does it. Mr. Kinzel does it. Why should Mr. Ouimet decide himself too large-and-in-charge to give a darn about daily operation? I don't think he does... This is a pivitol time for him as he takes over. To become CEO of a company and then look into its day-to-day operation is - pardon the expression - ass backwards. He will soon be the big dog at Cedar Fair's parks. He should be able to know which one "Kings Island" is when it's brought up, and to know what it looks like, who goes, what they want, and what they do...