LongliveKingsCobra Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Yes "Consistent".....I dotn think I want another Camp Snoopy!! And besides there are some good rides that me an my freinds ride(we are 15 and 16 year olds) So if they make it total Kiddie land then well CF has no idea.....but i dont think that will happen..... Quote
The Interpreter Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Snoopy and friends would come at their own cost. If Nick is not renewed, it won't be because Snoopy is free at the non-legacy Cedar Fair parks....it isn't. Universal Features Syndicate is also in business for money, just as Viacom is. Quote
RollerNut Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Whos to say they won't just turn it into "Kiddy Kingdom", "KidsWorks" or "Jr Gemini{/s] Beast" area. I wouldn't be surprised if they did as it would solve the problem of having to renew any cartoons including Snoopy. Did Geauga Lake ever get Snoopy? Quote
The Interpreter Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 No. Is Geauga Lake's ride side open? No. But Snoopy did appear on Geauga's website...however briefly. Quote
LongliveKingsCobra Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Perhaps...Im just sayng that I think it would be a stupid idea to kill NU because that would get rid of all the kids characters that they know and love...Now I not totaly srue but how many kids know about Snoopy or even Charlie Brown......in this day and age your lucky if you see the show on any more.... Quote
The Interpreter Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Many factors will enter into that decision....and they have been discussed here time and again! Quote
LongliveKingsCobra Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 I like bringin up old discussed topics....it bring lfe to the part...or not, but hey when it comes down to it Do they want to pay moneyy to renew or do they want to spend MORE MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE!!!!!!X100000000000 money to renovate NU? I would want to pay to renew it...unless its an insain amount...(did I Condradict my self?) Quote
The Interpreter Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 And Viacom will take into account how much it would cost Cedar Fair to renovate should the license not be renewed....it just makes business sense....Viacom owned the parks at the time Nick Universe went in...it doesn't now...and the relationship between Viacom and Cedar Fair may not be the best...especially since Viacom did not get the huge amount that Cedar Fair paid for Paramount Parks...CBS, a once-related company, did. Quote
RollerNut Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Paramount Parks dropped Wayne's World from Carowinds and Kings Dominion due Paramount Pictures was asking for an insane amount to renew it. Didn't Viacom say shortly before they spilt that "We have no intentions to diverse Paramount Parks." I imagine the Viacom spilt was mainly to keep their tails out of monopoly court. I don't know much about laws so I think I am getting over my head. ~Roller "I think I need to be quiet now" Nut Quote
LongliveKingsCobra Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Oh well at least they have a good reason...... Quote
jzarley Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Paramount Parks dropped Wayne's World from Carowinds and Kings Dominion due Paramount Pictures was asking for an insane amount to renew it. Didn't Viacom say shortly before they spilt that "We have no intentions to diverse Paramount Parks." I imagine the Viacom spilt was mainly to keep their tails out of monopoly court. I don't know much about laws so I think I am getting over my head. ~Roller "I think I need to be quiet now" Nut Viacom did not split into two entities (Viacom and CBS) because they were in danger of any sort of anti-trust litigation. (They're far from the only media empire in town...see Disney, Time Warner, NBC-Universal, etc.) They split because the stock of the "old" Viacom was undervalued in relation to the combined value of its assets. So, they split the company into an "income" stock (CBS) and a "growth" stock (Viacom), with the idea that the more mature, slower growth assests (like television networks and theme parks) wouldn't hold down the value of the faster (in theory anyway) growth businesses of movies, cable, and internet. Interpreter made a comment about how Viacom might not be so willing to go out of their way to help the parks considering that CBS reaped the rewards of the sale...not them. Of course, I'd also argue that I doubt if Tom Freston was clamoring to get the park business on his side when he, Les Moonves, and Sumner Redstone met to divy things up Moonves got the better deal out of that one--who would have thought it? Quote
The Interpreter Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Not to mention that Viacom intends to remain in the park licensing business, and is doing so already overseas. I doubt that Viacom has much interest in assisting Cedar Fair in any way other than the extraction of revenue, and hopefully plenty of it, therefrom. Quote
miamidolphins Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 So is scooby doo owned by nick? Kings Island needs to do whatever they need to do to keep scooby Quote
The Interpreter Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Scooby Doo is now owned by Time Warner....not Nick....which is why Scooby and the Haunted Castle at one time was said to be on International Street and not in Nick Universe...the licensing for Scooby comes from Sally, the ride's manufacturer, and not from Time Warner directly.... Quote
italianchef Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 I have yet to hear of NU's exit from the park. Quote
RollerNut Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Scooby Doo is now owned by Time Warner....not Nick....which is why Scooby and the Haunted Castle at one time was said to be on International Street and not in Nick Universe...the licensing for Scooby comes from Sally, the ride's manufacturer, and not from Time Warner directly.... But then wouldn't Sally Rides have to renew the license instead of KI so that KI, CW, KD, Carowinds, and the Six Flags park(not sure which ones) can all keep using the Scooby-Doo characters? ~Roller "One day KIC members are going to beat the crap out of me" Nut Quote
Gordon Bombay Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 I have yet to hear of NU's exit from the park. Chef, why would they tell you first? Quote
WooferBearATL Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 I have yet to hear of NU's exit from the park. Chef, why would they tell you first? I think that Chef is alluding to Don's statement regarding Nostalgia and bringing it back. Quote
Beast1979 Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Ahh the old days, when theme parks were theme parks, and new additions were surprises, when rides weren't ads. Good times, good times. Quote
Gordon Bombay Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Coming from someone who wasn't around the park in the days before Paramount was there? Quote
Beast1979 Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 I'm just saying that to signify that i find this all confusing and futile. Quote
King Maple The Tree King Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 You know, your common spelling mistakes, bad grammar, attitude, and logic are very similar to someone we once knew.....what his name....Jimbo, Jay, Jelly bean......oh yeah.....JacksonPKI! Quote
WooferBearATL Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 You know, your common spelling mistakes, bad grammar, attitude, and logic are very similar to someone we once knew.....what his name....Jimbo, Jay, Jelly bean......oh yeah.....JacksonPKI! I just find all that grammar stuff so Wordy!!! Quote
King Maple The Tree King Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Well you know Woofer, grammar is just a fad. Like stand up roller coasters. And backwards facing wooden roller coasters. I'm just trying to bring some nostalgia back to these boards. Quote
Beast1979 Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 You know, your common spelling mistakes, bad grammar, attitude, and logic are very similar to someone we once knew.....what his name....Jimbo, Jay, Jelly bean......oh yeah.....JacksonPKI! Who? Quote
coaster_junky Posted April 14, 2008 Author Posted April 14, 2008 You know, your common spelling mistakes, bad grammar, attitude, and logic are very similar to someone we once knew.....what his name....Jimbo, Jay, Jelly bean......oh yeah.....JacksonPKI! Who? i'm guessing that sounded funnier in your head? Quote
jzarley Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Ahh the old days, when theme parks were theme parks, and new additions were surprises, when rides weren't ads. Good times, good times. So...you don't think Kings Island was an advertising vehicle for Taft's media properties? Taft's motives for building the parks really weren't so different than Paramount's for buying them twenty years later. Corporate sponsorships and advertising have been in theme parks ever since Walt was doing everything possible to finance Disneyland in the '50s... Quote
WooferBearATL Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Well you know Woofer, grammar is just a fad. Like stand up roller coasters. And backwards facing wooden roller coasters. I'm just trying to bring some nostalgia back to these boards. Just Slap a Decal On It and Send Out A Press Release Then! <G> Quote
NICKTOON 47 Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 i love being a nicktoon i would cry if it went away Quote
thatbandguy8807 Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 Ahh the old days, when theme parks were theme parks, and new additions were surprises, when rides weren't ads. Good times, good times. lol. i agree. but we know that wont come back soon. Quote
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