The Interpreter Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 http://www.wesh.com/news/16783888/detail.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 http://www.wesh.com/news/16783888/detail.html "It's typical of Disney. They have no regard for the safety of their customers or their employees," Marion Hammer of the National Rifle Association said. Yeah, Disney is oh so careless about safety. Has this person ever been to a Disney park???? Now mind you, I support concealed carry laws, but I think that a property owner should have the right to restrict that access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Ok. I found this quote really intriguing: "It's typical of Disney. They have no regard for the safety of their customers or their employees," Marion Hammer of the National Rifle Association said. Yeah. Right. Disney doesn`t care about the safety or their customers? Give me a break! Disney entertains more millions of guests at its property in Orlando every year. And look how many incidents the park has with violence. Personally, I would feel safer knowing that cast members or guests were not allowed to carry hand guns in their cars. There is less of a chance that an upset cast member or guest would take matters into their own hands, rather then calling the police. I have to side with Disney on this. Not allowing people to have guns in their cars would make the park safer. Granted, with or without this law, it won`t stop someone with serious intent on committing a crime from doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 Disney employee suspended for bringing gun to work: http://www.wesh.com/news/16791034/detail.html There is video on the right side of the webpage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Well, how did they know that he would have a gun in his trunk? If the guns have to stay in the car, I guess I am ok with this law. But of all the types of employees at Disney World, the ones that would be able to handle the guns would be the security guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Well, how did they know that he would have a gun in his trunk? If the guns have to stay in the car, I guess I am ok with this law. But of all the types of employees at Disney World, the ones that would be able to handle the guns would be the security guards. You certainly don't have to be a security guard to be able to handle a gun. Many, many, many people have gun skills..... and the protection of the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Right, I know that. What I was saying was if Disney were to let anyone carry guns on property, you would think it would be security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/or...0,4451874.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 Well, that was certainly predictable.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kwindshawne Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I find this whole thing pretty interesting. I was talking to a guy once and we got on the subject of guns and he wondered if he could bring his into KI. I told him with the detectors, I doubt it. He then said he takes it into Cedar Point all the time. My question is, why do people need to bring a gun into an amusement park? Hello????? I can tell you that doesn't make me feel too safe at CP. Just add alcohol and the right temperament and you have a bad situation quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 Cedar Point doesn't have metal detectors. Why is a really good question. Then again, last I heard, neither does the Walt Disney World complex... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Exactly. The parks are private property and the owners should be permitted to set their own rules. Inevitably there will be an incident with a gun in a park if this policy remains. Imagine a gun in the mix during the incident at the Tea Cup ride last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I find this whole thing pretty interesting. I was talking to a guy once and we got on the subject of guns and he wondered if he could bring his into KI. I told him with the detectors, I doubt it. He then said he takes it into Cedar Point all the time. My question is, why do people need to bring a gun into an amusement park? Hello????? I can tell you that doesn't make me feel too safe at CP. Just add alcohol and the right temperament and you have a bad situation quickly. When I owned my bar, some of former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge (shameless plug -native to Erie, PA and graduate of Cathedral Prep!) secret service agents came in to enjoy the music, dancing and adult beverages after their shift. When I found out that they were armed, I politely asked that they put the guns in their cars since the bar was packed (300+) and they were drinking alcohol. They did tell me they were allowed to have the guns on them considering what they did. I then told them that I respect their position, but Mr. Ridge was not present AND they were consuming alcohol in my establishment. They did put the guns in the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I don't really get why people need guns? I think the only people who should use or even own a gun are cops and of corse the army. Why do we need to carry a gun anyway? You can carry something much more smaller and affective, peper spray. I will also side with Disney. Edit: I just read about the whole disney gaurd geting fired. First of all why would you want to take your gun to work? Im sure they taught him how to deal with guest without firearm. Thats like me going to work at Chuck E Cheese and I just leave my gun in the car. It really makes no sense why i needed to bring a gun with me. ---- I also thought about it some more and this could play a big part in road rage. Now that they have guns in their cars, who knows what will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I think that the issue is him bringing the gun to work and leaving it in his car. That I think I could go with. If someone has a concealed carry permit I don't see any issue with him having the gun in his vehicle. Taking it onto private property such as the park is a different matter. I'm all for a property owner making the rules as to guest/employee behavior. I know the argument is that the parking lot is park property, but I certainly think that exception can be made as it is simply for his safety and protection to and from work. Now personally, I have no idea why parks continue the use of the metal detectors. I certainly don't see any change of operation of parks before or after their use. They certainly seem to send the wrong message to a visitor visiting the park. "Welcome to our park, now let me search you." On weekends, I wear a wallet that has a chain that attaches to my belt. One time while entering SFOG the security made me take it back to the car as it had a chain on it. So now, I take the chain and put it in the wallet - put the wallet in the baske - walk through the detectors and put it back on when I get in the park. Soooooo ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Now personally, I have no idea why parks continue the use of the metal detectors. I certainly don't see any change of operation of parks before or after their use. They certainly seem to send the wrong message to a visitor visiting the park. I feel the same way. The first time I went to PKD they had metal detectors. After going to PKI so many times, I was rather shocked to see them at another Paramount Park. The first thing that came to my mind was: "What happened here that they need metal detectors?" It was shortly after that PKI had them as well. I believe they started to use the wands when racial tensions were high in the Cincy area (2000-2001?), and then the walk-through style came prior to the 2003 season. And in all reality, if someone really wants to get something in that is prohibited by the park (gun, knife, drug paraphanalia etc.), it would not be that hard. I am still surprised that all NFL stadiums do not have metal detectors. Currently, I get patted down to my waist before entering Cleveland Browns Stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 Disney Firing Sets Stage For Battle Between Gun Rights and Property Rights (editorial): http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/s...0,3548722.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kwindshawne Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I think that the issue is him bringing the gun to work and leaving it in his car. That I think I could go with. If someone has a concealed carry permit I don't see any issue with him having the gun in his vehicle. Taking it onto private property such as the park is a different matter. I'm all for a property owner making the rules as to guest/employee behavior. I know the argument is that the parking lot is park property, but I certainly think that exception can be made as it is simply for his safety and protection to and from work. Now personally, I have no idea why parks continue the use of the metal detectors. I certainly don't see any change of operation of parks before or after their use. They certainly seem to send the wrong message to a visitor visiting the park. "Welcome to our park, now let me search you." On weekends, I wear a wallet that has a chain that attaches to my belt. One time while entering SFOG the security made me take it back to the car as it had a chain on it. So now, I take the chain and put it in the wallet - put the wallet in the baske - walk through the detectors and put it back on when I get in the park. Soooooo ridiculous. Since there are so many nut jobs out there, I feel a little better knowing they are there-even TSA can miss some items, human error plays into the mix. However, a wallet chain is not a big issue, but every park is different. You would be surprised at what attempts to come through the gates on a daily basis, and I think if most people knew the amount of dangerous items "held" daily, they would feel better knowing they are not entering the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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