aero11 Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 One more thing. How do I get one of those cool pictures under my user name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOF Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 One more thing. How do I get one of those cool pictures under my user name? Go to "your contol panel" click on avatar settings and pick one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of D Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 After working on Congo Falls for three years now, I can officially say I'm not really sure what the chain type deal is for. I guess just to stir up the water like you said and make it all rushing rapid like at the bottom. It's just one of those things. Later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 I'm not sure what your talking about, but do you think it's to keep things from going into the pump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarketingExpress Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 The Racers race whenever the ops decide to let them race. But most of the time they aren't together and it is a capacity killer when you try to wait for both trains to go. So yes it is up to the ops, but it usually would take to much time to race them. Later Actually whatou said is completely false. Ride Ops on The Racer crew were told that they must race unless something comes up like a disability guest that would take a lot of time. Even when this happens, they must start racing as soon as possible afterwards. The ops were told to do this because the ride is called The Racer,so it is only natural that it should race, that and guests were complainging about them not racing. Any Questions leave a post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 Seems like a topic we may talk to Jeff Siebert about in the PKIU Chat on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pki_guy Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 *wink wink* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastfreak Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 I would assume the chain link is used for water disruption yes. If that is really the purpose you might ask why are they using something so cheap. Why not. White Water Canyon uses very simple items in the bottom of the chanel to produce the currents and waves desired to make the rapids. These consist of simple things such as a wood log, or coragated metal tube. Don't need to be too fancy when it is just going to be covered in water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Exactly, no one sees White Water Canyon when it's closed either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastfreak Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Well, it was easy to see the similar ride at Six Flags Saint Louis because theirs was closed when i visited in October. To get to the queue of Mr. Freeze you pass over their rapid ride and it was empty so all the tubes were visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 That sounds right for water movement. Chain link fence would make for a really bad screen for keeping things from being sucked into a pump, considering the large holes in chain link fence. Pump grates usually have small slotted holes about 1 to 2 inches wide and about 1/4 to 1/2 in tall, for water inlet. although big things like rocks and stuff can damage pumps, there are much simpler things like air which can actually dent the inner part of the pump that pushes the water; Its called an impeller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB_TOM Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Last year, during postseason, if you rode the train you could see WWC closed. Its pretty interesting. Ive watched it drain before, and thats cool too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastfreak Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 They control the level of water with that little lake whatever back there don't they? I know there is a wall with a huge gate on it but I really don't want that water behind the gate in the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Well there is pretty small chain link fences also known as chicken wire. I didn't know how big it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 From someone who grew up around a farm, chicken wire and chain link fence are two completely different things. Chicken wire is just meant for that, holding chickens in. Its holes are very tiny, and water coming at it, at high speeds woudl destroy it. The other problem is, it would easily get rusted through in les than one season, with water on it, all the time. I would bet its chain link fence, and just meant to disrupt the flow of water and give it some rapid looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 The corrigated metal screening (not sure if it is chain link fencing for sure) on Congo is only for water disruption. It gives it a "falls" feel rather than just clear water spilling down a trough. If you have seen the Hopkin's versions at other parks such as SFWOA, you will notice that the water just trickles down the drop with very little finesse. PKI's is one of the better Intamin versions of the Shoot-The-Chutes and it's cascading water has a more eye-pleasing effect. The rapid looking water hides the metal trough underneath. As others mentioned, White Water Canyon uses what amounts to pilings or corriggated steel tubes and "speed" bumps to disrupt the water in the water channel. These "speed bumps" are what causes your boat to raise and then dip resulting in the water rushing over the side of the boat. The entire water channel is a long downhill course. When WWC begins, you are a good 50 feet above where you end. Of course a lift raises boats back up to the loading/unloading platform. This downhill course addresses many needs: The water flow is regulated, the movement of boats is guaranteed, and it allows for quick drainage. Really, the water in WWC is only about 1 or 2 feet deep. Each ride op located on the attraction (The ride requires at least 7 people to operate... a rather large crew... hence it is often the first attraction to be closed when the park is low on staff) is equipped with an emergency E-stop button that when pressed haults the pumps. When the pumps stop, the ride can drain in a matter of seconds. I believe it takes only like 45 seconds max for it to drain. Any boats along the course simply float until the water gets too low and then settle down and rest on the concrete bottom. Also, along the course, there are water "turbines" that aid with the water's flow, they direct boats and they disrupt water for rapids purposes. These turbines also help "spin" the water, which in turn, spins boats. Best of all they create my favorite "surpsie" element on a rapids ride... they are an obsticle which boats can, bump tossing riders from their seats into the laps of people next to them. PKI's WWC is a bit different from some of the earlier Intamin rapids rides. PKI's does not use gates to create blocks along the course. It's predecessor, the version at PKD, does. Finally, someone metioned the water in the lake next to WWC. That is indeed what is used for the ride. The water is treated (like a swimming pool) through the filtration system used on the ride. And do you know where that water originally comes from? The parking lot. That is run-off from the lot outside the park. Shaggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastfreak Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Hence the reason I did not want that water in the ride. Did you also know that the water in the lake in front of the unused section of the Antique Cars comes from the storm drains behind magilla's and wings and he other places that feed the "water fall" in front of the train station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Well it's not like it's going to get you sick. The water has to be cleaned to a certain legal extent. Now some of that water is from the creek/river behind the park right Shaggy? I don't think run off from the parking lot would suffice for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB_TOM Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Actually, Shaggy, when I was watching it drain, it took over 5 minutes for the entire courst to drain into the overflow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Did they hit the E-Stop button? I bet it could drain that quick, five minutes sounds like a reasonable time, but I doubt that anyone would fall out of that ride and get stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB_TOM Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 It was just a normal shutdown. I dont see how it would drain faster if you hit estop or not. The pumps shut off normally and there is no pump at the bottom of the course to pump the water into the overflow. Also, the crew is now down to 6. They put monitors in the first tower you pass (tower one) and it is monitored by tower 2. There are the three on the platform, driver, tower 3 and tower 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 It could make a little difference, but I'm not going to argue over it, it's not a big deal anyways. It could very well be 5 minutes. PKI spending about 100 bucks for camera and monitor saved about 96 dollars a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOF Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 PKI's WWC is a bit different from some of the earlier Intamin rapids rides. PKI's does not use gates to create blocks along the course. It's predecessor, the version at PKD, does. True it doesnt use gates to create actual blocks like on a roller coaster (i think PLC ontrolled blocking is impossible on a rapids ride), but it does have gates at Tower 2 to stop the boats at that point if needed, or to sycronize the boats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Funny, that lake looks pretty slimy for it to be treated. And if it comes in from the parking lot, think of all the gas, anti-freeze, coolent, oil, and other engine fluids in it. But whatever as long as I dont get sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastfreak Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 It is pumped up from that lake to the upper most part of the "chute" and i'm sure is cleaned inthere while pumping through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOF Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Trust me the water is properly treated. There is a certain level of cleanliness the water has to be above in order to operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Oh yea, I wasent saying it wasent, just that that is just some of the stuff that gets washed up from the parking lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIguy14 Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 What does it mean to be "driving" a ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOF Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 PKIguy14, A driver of a ride is the person on control of the ride at the main panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterfan Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 I can't wait to ride WWC! Winter is fun but I need rides!!! If that water wasn't cleaned good the park would be shut down real quik! So you know it is cleaned good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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