TheCryptRaider Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I heard some rumors about SOB's loop being unassembeled in the 'graveyard.' Is this true? (I searched, and found nothing)
dare-to-fly Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 From what I have read here and in other places, the loop was scrapped along with the King Cobra track. If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me.
skaterboy22101 Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I heard some rumors about SOB's loop being unassembeled in the 'graveyard.' Is this true? (I searched, and found nothing) I thought the loop was scraped?
coasterguy15 Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I heard some rumors about SOB's loop being unassembeled in the 'graveyard.' Is this true? (I searched, and found nothing) I thought the loop was scraped? I don't really think that scraping the metal from the loop would do anything. ;)
skaterboy22101 Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I heard some rumors about SOB's loop being unassembeled in the 'graveyard.' Is this true? (I searched, and found nothing) I thought the loop was scraped? I don't really think that scraping the metal from the loop would do anything. Why do you say that?
coasterguy15 Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 There is a difference between scraping and scrapping something. Just trying to make a joke, that's all
Tom76257 Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I heard that the new trains wouldn't go through the loop and that's why the loop was taken out. So if the loop does come back then new trains would have to be installed. I'm not saying there's not a possibility of the loop coming back, but it does seem like a lot of work and money just for it to happen.
HTCO Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I honestly, Highly doubt they will bring it back.. a) they spent all the money on taking it out and putting in new track.. and b ) they would need to possibly modify the trains again..
rotag Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I was going to ride that one time but wated 2 hours in line. By the time i got to ride my leg was cramping bad. So i got out before train left the station. Do you think it would seriously hurt me if i would havw grinned and beared it?
skaterboy22101 Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 There is a difference between scraping and scrapping something. Just trying to make a joke, that's all Ohh. I spelled scrapping wrong!
TheCryptRaider Posted April 11, 2009 Author Posted April 11, 2009 I honestly, Highly doubt they will bring it back.. A) they spent all the money on taking it out and putting in new track.. and they would need to possibly modify the trains again.. I totally agree. As much as I wish for the loop to return, it's so unlikely.
The Interpreter Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 I heard that the new trains wouldn't go through the loop and that's why the loop was taken out. So if the loop does come back then new trains would have to be installed. I'm not saying there's not a possibility of the loop coming back, but it does seem like a lot of work and money just for it to happen. There is a big difference between physical ability and permissibility, and in Ohio, it matters. Terpy, who has almost said too much again
dare-to-fly Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 This looks like another case of having to interpret The Interpreter's words. One thing that I can also interpret is that Ohio is definitely a state to avoid should I decide to open an amusement park. Flyer, who someday may.
iChase Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Simple answer, we will never see a loop on SOB again. To make the loop, the trains had to be heavier than the average wooden coaster train. As a result, the track and supports were being damaged by the extra weight of the trains. Finally, something gave. Some vertical timbers in the Rose Bowl cracked resulting in a buckle in the track. Fast forward. Clearly, something needed to be done. So they acquired lighter trains, which couldn't make it through the loop, but wouldn't damage the track. The choice was clear.
dare-to-fly Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Would anyone else care to join me in saying that there was very little downtime on Son of Beast last season? I can't help but notice that SoB's reliability is very good as of late. (Knock on wood) The clear choice of the park was the best choice as far as I'm concerned. I've enjoyed my rides without the loop much more than the rides I had with the loop.
The Interpreter Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 There was no physical reason that Son of Beast's original trains had to be as heavy as they were in order to negotiate loops. Mindbender at SFOG, anyone? Shockwave at Six Flags Over Texas, anyone? Or the old Flip-Flaps? How heavy were the trains on those? The simple fact is this. The trains that were available in 2000 to circumnavigate loops on wooden coasters were heavy. Other trains, that were not, were not. In 2006, that aspect had not changed. The trains that were available if the loop was present were deemed too heavy. In order to use lighter trains, the loop had to go.
windshawne Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Which makes sob a mediocre coaster in my opinion. After the first drop, I have no use for the rest of it-to the point I am never getting on it again.
catzdrummer09 Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 I love this coaster and am sad to see the loop go but at the same time I think that they made a good choice and still enjoy the ride. However, the MCBR is rather pointless these days...I think it should just be removed.
The Interpreter Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Then riders could dare to fly through that section!
coaster_junky Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 i thought the same thing when i read that terpy, but it would be kinda neat if they added a bunny hop or a quick downward spiral coming off the back of the rosebowl.
IndyGuy4KI Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 There was no physical reason that Son of Beast's original trains had to be as heavy as they were in order to negotiate loops. Mindbender at SFOG, anyone? Shockwave at Six Flags Over Texas, anyone? Or the old Flip-Flaps? How heavy were the trains on those? The simple fact is this. The trains that were available in 2000 to circumnavigate loops on wooden coasters were heavy. Other trains, that were not, were not. In 2006, that aspect had not changed. The trains that were available if the loop was present were deemed too heavy. In order to use lighter trains, the loop had to go. The new cars are shorter than the old ones, so I am wondering if they could have removed a car or 2 off the old trans and been ok as far as weight and making the loop? I am guessing not since they spent the money replacing them, but just a thought!
dare-to-fly Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Then riders could dare to fly through that section! Someone mention flying through the mid-course???? That's my favorite activity at Kings Island! Too bad it happens so rarely. When it does, the rest of the ride is amazing, though I wish they had placed a really good airhill in place of the loop instead of the lame almost straight piece.
The Interpreter Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 There was no physical reason that Son of Beast's original trains had to be as heavy as they were in order to negotiate loops. Mindbender at SFOG, anyone? Shockwave at Six Flags Over Texas, anyone? Or the old Flip-Flaps? How heavy were the trains on those? The simple fact is this. The trains that were available in 2000 to circumnavigate loops on wooden coasters were heavy. Other trains, that were not, were not. In 2006, that aspect had not changed. The trains that were available if the loop was present were deemed too heavy. In order to use lighter trains, the loop had to go. The new cars are shorter than the old ones, so I am wondering if they could have removed a car or 2 off the old trans and been ok as far as weight and making the loop? I am guessing not since they spent the money replacing them, but just a thought! Once again, the weight of the trains had nothing to do with negotiating the loop. And orginally, the Son of Beast trains did have another car...and there was a third train which was never installed. Terpy, who, if he isn't careful, really is going to say too much...he's said abundantly enough already
coaster_junky Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 ^didn't they rotate out the third train? like, one year it would be train1 and train2, then the next year train1 and train3, then the next year train2 and train3. and with what all you talked about in that post reminded me of my could the Son of Beast accident been avoided topic
DropZone99 Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 I love this coaster and am sad to see the loop go but at the same time I think that they made a good choice and still enjoy the ride. However, the MCBR is rather pointless these days...I think it should just be removed. Well it is for blocking reasons. If they removed the MCBR than they would have to stack probably.
Dalefan Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 They could always give the loop away in a drawing. Lol.
Dalefan Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 i heard they were putting the loop back in If they did that then the ride would be more worse and they would have to put the heavy trains back on. Not sure if the inspectors would love that idea. I havent rode it in a while. Its not worth the wait anymore if its past 30 mins.
The Interpreter Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 The loop has been carted away to a recycling facility. It won't be coming back.
dare-to-fly Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 Well it is for blocking reasons. If they removed the MCBR than they would have to stack probably. I'll take it! Besides, just as long as a train doesn't crest the lift until the other is in the station, no problems. There is a mid-course brake run with no brakes on Shivering Timbers, and I believe the same was true with Villain - both long coasters. It also works on every coaster that doesn't have a mid-course brake run and runs more than one train. What's the problem!? Flyer, who loves to fly through the mid-course on SoB and craves it as we speak.
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