Jasper Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I would actually like to see this as I found a new fond love for Adventure Express this year. It is actually a very fun little coaster, deserving of a 5? No, maybe a 4, on the fun factor though, it is very high up on the scale. Quote
Coney Islander Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 The fog used on the ride originally was a water mist system (similar to the unit used on WTRA). It was removed due to excessive rust to the car undercarriage. Nothing a little paint can't fix. I would actually like to see this as I found a new fond love for Adventure Express this year. It is actually a very fun little coaster, deserving of a 5? No, maybe a 4, on the fun factor though, it is very high up on the scale. Agreed. Adventure Express is my fourth favorite coaster at KI, and could easily be my second if Cedar Fair does decide to fix it up. (The Beast, Diamondback, Flight of Fear, Adventure Express, Firehawk) Quote
CedarPointer Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 AE still has the worst, most anti-climatic ending ever. No amount of theming can fix that. Quote
faeriewench Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I love Adventure Express. It was my first coaster ever. I love the theme and wish Cedar Point had one like it. AE was my first coaster ride at KI and was my first job when I went to the rides dept My first rides ever were at Cedar Point though.. (Jr Gemini/Gemini) Quote
Beast79 Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I always felt that they should switch the theming between the first and second lift hills. Quote
Diamondback FOF Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Please tell me I remember this correctly... the guy at the very top of that lift hill holding the pot thingy... didnt that used to drip water? Yes at one time mist was shoot out. I rode Adventure Express opening year. Haha. Really? I've always thought that the pot should drip water. Quote
DaveStroem Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 IMO they should take some of the fog machines they use during the haunts and place them in AE. I do have to agree with CedarPointer that no amount of theming will help the ending. Quote
74Gibson Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Especially if your not expecting that ot be the end. The first time I rode I kept anxiously awaiting a big drop and was all excited when we hit the lift. What a let down! I started riding it again this season and have a new found love for it. It's not a thrill ride but it really is fun. At night is even better. Quote
bkroz Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I had a chance to talk with the operations director of Rivertown, who was quick to let me know that (and I quote) "Paramount made a lot of rides interact with water without thinking of the long-term effects," specifically referencing Adventure Express, Tomb Raider, and the Italian Job by name. So, don't hold your breath looking for fog to return to any of those rides. Really. Especially with Cedar Fair. Paramount had naivete to its negative impact, and had a budget and specialty for it. Cedar Fair has neither. 1 Quote
gigacoaster2k Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I've always thought that the pot should drip water. On the subject of water, Ryan (BoddaH1994) and I learned that riding AE in a downpour is NOT the smartest idea. OUCH! Quote
frisbeefan Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 ^ Neither is riding Milenium Force. It's like getting stung by a million bees. Quote
Jasper Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 On the subject of rides in a downpour, Diamondback is not that comfortable either. Quote
CedarPointer Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Adventure Express, Tomb Raider, and the Italian Job So they're going to wreck the theming on Adventure Express next? Quote
TTD-120-420 Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 The fog in Maverick's tunnel at CP was removed for the same reason, and that the fire alarms kept going off. 1 Quote
MrTools Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I dont see how hard it would be to just add some new lights, like red lights in the third tunnel (at night). Right now, well before i read about the dripping water and saw the old picture, i thought all we could use were some lights. Quote
CincyMan98 Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I really think they should switch the themeing on the second hill to the first hill. It gets you all excited and then.....wow, you're back in the station. Quote
CedarPointer Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I honestly had no idea that tunnel was meant to be a volcano. Quote
Dvo Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 ^^The problem with that is, if you move all the theming to the first lift, then you just get a lift at the end of the ride into a brake run. No entertainment value whatsoever. At least with the theming there, you get some sort of entertainment while you're going back up to the station. Quote
CedarPointer Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 They could also get some new speakers so you can actually hear the "NOW YOU WILL PAY!", instead of just hearing "...pay!" in the back row. Or just fix the timing. 1 Quote
Guest TombraiderTy Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I had a chance to talk with the operations director of Rivertown, who was quick to let me know that (and I quote) "Paramount made a lot of rides interact with water without thinking of the long-term effects," specifically referencing Adventure Express, Tomb Raider, and the Italian Job by name. So, don't hold your breath looking for fog to return to any of those rides. Really. Especially with Cedar Fair. Paramount had naivete to its negative impact, and had a budget and specialty for it. Cedar Fair has neither. Adventure Express opened in 1991, pre-Paramount On the subject of water/mist/fog/whatever affecting roller coasters, take a look at what continuous mist has done to the Incredible Hulk roller coaster at Universal's Islands of Adventure: It's worth noting, however, that their indoor Revenge of the Mummy attraction uses fog/mist with seemingly no problems 1 Quote
rotag Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 anybody thinking how db will be afected, since a brake run is in the water (a.k.a. waterbrakes)? 1 Quote
Diamondback FOF Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I've always thought that the pot should drip water. On the subject of water, Ryan (BoddaH1994) and I learned that riding AE in a downpour is NOT the smartest idea. OUCH! I rode The Beast during Haunt a couple years ago when it was like 50* out and absolutely pouring rain. It was a bit painful, but very fun. When coming out of the helix, it felt like hitting a wall of rain since it was dry in the tunnel. I think coasters are really fun when it is cold out. Edit: anybody thinking how db will be afected, since a brake run is in the water (a.k.a. waterbrakes)? I don't think it will be affected too much since the track doesn't actually sit in the water. Quote
CedarPointer Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Yes, but the mist still hits the track. Quote
Diamondback FOF Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Well, yeah, but I don't see it getting too rusty over time because of the water. It is made to withstand that. Quote
faeriewench Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I remember when Magnum had fog and strobes in its 3rd tunnel (i think there was strobes) 1 Quote
CedarPointer Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Well, yeah, but I don't see it getting too rusty over time because of the water. It is made to withstand that. And AE and BLSC could not be modified to withstand mist? Quote
bkroz Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 B&M's track is fabricated MUCH better than Premier track. It withstands the water to the extent that the paint doesn't chip off and the track itself doesn't rust. ANY ride exposed to constant water will need repainting, but B&Ms require far less actual work. And yeah, my mistake about Adventure Express fog being Pre-Paramount, but they took the idea and ran with it. If we were to make a list of all the rides built with water effects, but turned off by Cedar Fair we could compile quite a list: Kings Island The Crypt Backlot Stunt Coaster Adventure Express Cedar Point Maverick Magnum Kings Dominion Backlot Stunt Coaster Anaconda Worlds of Fun Thunderhawk Those are the only Cedar Fair parks Ive been to, but that's quite a lot of water shut off in the last two years. Though, based on their finances, can you blame them? Quote
CedarPointer Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Thunderhawk's is on occasionally. 1 Quote
faeriewench Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Adventure Express was shut off during the Paramount years I thought? ...like early Paramount years 1 Quote
TylerRider Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Why did they remove the smoke in Backlot. 1 Quote
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