Why can't there be a Hyperdive Machine? Just imagine - a first 200+ foot drop, and out-and-back layout of airtime hills, hammerhead turn, a few more hills, a block brake, a second vertical drop, inversion, splashdown, breaks.

If you ask me, I imagine the reason why only Busch has dive machines in the US is because they are probably seen by Six Flags and Cedar Fair as "trend" coasters just like stand ups, and they'd rather have something more proven like inverts or Hypers. I know i was upset when I found out Diamondback was going to be a hyper instead of a dive machine, but in hindsight and after riding, I can honestly say I'm glad we got a hyper instead of a Dive, though to be fair I've never ridden a Dive Machine either. Anyway yeah I'm pulling for an Invert more than anything, its something I've always wanted KI to get and they never did throughout the whole Paramount era. I'm not sure why either... did they not see the popularity in this type of coaster? did they not see how Batman - the Ride was so good at Great America that they built several clones of it at other Six Flags parks? Did they not see the great reviews Raptor at Cedar Point got?

Having a good invert is almost a staple at parks these days, and Kings Island needs one!

You do realize there is a smaller version of Batman at what was then Paramount's Great America in California, right?

Don't know, don't care. The point is its not at Kings Island

Uh, YOU are the one who asked if Paramount had noticed how popular inverts were. The point is Paramount BOUGHT an invert from B & M. So yes, they knew. And CHOSE not to put one at Kings Island.

Not trying to be rude, just saying, its in Cali, not Ohio. But you do have a point.

Speaking of points, I assume the presence of Raptor at Cedar Point left Paramount Parks proceeding in another direction in Ohio, as it often did...

Why can't there be a Hyperdive Machine? Just imagine - a first 200+ foot drop, and out-and-back layout of airtime hills, hammerhead turn, a few more hills, a block brake, a second vertical drop, inversion, splashdown, breaks.

I could see that. That would be an awesome ride!

Why can't there be a Hyperdive Machine? Just imagine - a first 200+ foot drop, and out-and-back layout of airtime hills, hammerhead turn, a few more hills, a block brake, a second vertical drop, inversion, splashdown, breaks.

I could see that. That would be an awesome ride!

Breaks? Freudian slip?

^ Terp here used the wrong "their" in a post earlier and silly little me thought 'I'm sure he wouldn't correct my mistakes, so I won't embarass him!' How wrong I was! Haha though I suppose you have a good point with mine.

Not trying to be rude, just saying, its in Cali, not Ohio. But you do have a point.

And that park in Cali may have been cheesed at one point or another that Kings Island got all the "good rides." Do they have a Flight of Fear? A Beast? A Tomb Raider? That particular park is now fighting to stay open, and certainly is envious of us for some of the things we have that they don't.

Yes, but they got....the Grizzly!

Well whatever, but its not too late for Kings Island to get a one.

The Grizzly? I certainly hope...not. Always last place in Mitch Hawker's wood poll, it is so bad it is actually funny...the park refers to it as 'bumpy.' Hey, they had to promote something about it...

Why can't there be a Hyperdive Machine? Just imagine - a first 200+ foot drop, and out-and-back layout of airtime hills, hammerhead turn, a few more hills, a block brake, a second vertical drop, inversion, splashdown, breaks.

you forgot the trims, what Cedar Fair owned ride could possibly be complete without them?

^ FD doesn't have trim brakes, does it?

^who said it was complete? some members of this site believe that a second lift should be added to make the ride made longer.

and shh... Cedar Fair might hear you.

Intamin LSM Launch much? I wish.

Something From Intamin Maybe Something Over 450ft

That's highly unlikely... Just my thought.

That made me laugh. I doubt we would get anything record-breaking. But, of course, somebody has to break a new record all the time. So, why can't it be us?

I don't want a record-breaking coaster though. I'd be too chicken to ride it.

Honestly, I don't think any coaster will be built to be taller or faster than Kingda Ka for loooooong time. At least not in this economy...

I don't want a coaster of that style anyway. Hey its an odd looking hill... and thats about it! TTD duration listing on RCDB: 30 seconds. Now granted I've never rode TTD or Kingda ka and I'm sure they are fun, but at 30 seconds they are over before they started... its basically an over glorified Drop Tower!

I agree, it's not worth paying nearly $30 million dollars on a ride that lasts 20 seconds long or so.

20 seconds? Its not even that. Maybe counting the waiting before the launch and after the break.

As for record breaking, I cannot see us with anything record breaking in height or speed. Maybe a new type of ride or an idea never implemented into a ride before, but not record breaking. Cedar Fair has to keep those ideas for their own park.

20 seconds? Its not even that. Maybe counting the waiting before the launch and after the break.

As for record breaking, I cannot see us with anything record breaking in height or speed. Maybe a new type of ride or an idea never implemented into a ride before, but not record breaking. Cedar Fair has to keep those ideas for their own park.

Sadly I think the "30 seconds" is counting loading and unloading. Yeah I can see it being quicker than 10 seconds.

20 seconds? Its not even that. Maybe counting the waiting before the launch and after the break.

As for record breaking, I cannot see us with anything record breaking in height or speed. Maybe a new type of ride or an idea never implemented into a ride before, but not record breaking. Cedar Fair has to keep those ideas for their own park.

It was an estimated guess...don't freak out

Since when did he "freak out".....?

Anyways, I agree with all the above posts. Even though TTD or Kingda Ka are great rides, and very exciting, they're just very expensive for such a short ride. I said this earlier, and I'll say it again. I don't even like them, because they scare the crap out of me!!

yeah and I imagine after the gigantic investment that Diamondback was, the park isn't spending that much on a coaster for quite some time. Thats why I see a B&M invert as the next coaster. Not saying they are "cheap" by they are cheaper than hypers, and dramatically cheaper than the 20 second ride terracoasters!

Honestly, I don't think any coaster will be built to be taller or faster than Kingda Ka for loooooong time. At least not in this economy...

there are two coasters right now slated to be faster than kingda ka, they just haven't got that fast yet, i don't think.

There is? Boy was I wrong. What are these coasters?

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