sccard01 Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 Kentucky Kingdom may now get the same funding as the Noah Ark project according to the Courier Journal. http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20110723/NEWS01/307230072/1001/Kentucky-Kingdom-bonds-limbo-Developer-might-pursue-tax-credits?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CHome%7Cs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Translated, either the City refused to back the bonds and/or there weren't sufficient buyers for them. Interestingly, the tax incentive proposal requires virtually the same Government backing. A. In no way is this good news for Kentucky Kingdom. B. This is far from a done deal. C. This is Hart's people trying their best to put a positive spin on a very not good situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 http://www.wfpl.org/2011/07/25/talks-continue-on-kentucky-kingdom-reopening-plan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodyDL Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Re-tracking to some rides and new ones coming in a few years. KK is on its way to being open in 2012! Read here. I only went to KK once in 07 or 08 (cant remember) but It had great potential to be a great park. I believe the hours were 10-6 and only one train ran on all the coaster and half the rides were closed. Bringing new life to the park after being closed for a few years will help it rise to the top... I hope. It had the best stand-up (Chang) in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 All IF Mr. Hart can get Government backing/incentives. Many an if in that article. And given the markets, and the now overall view of Government, I'd say Mr. Hart's task is harder than it was even two short weeks ago. Competition for scarce Government resources just got a whole lot more intense. If Kentucky Kingdom has such a bright and shining future, why aren't private investors lining up begging to buy in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Freak Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 This topic is hilarious. Kentucky Kingdom will never be long-term successful again, and attendance figures don't define success. Success will be if and only if 1) the bonds are serviced, 2) the private investors get an acceptable ROI, and 3) the public perception skyrockets. The order of likelihood of those is almost certainly 2, 1, 3. The general public hates Kentucky Kingdom. It's dirty, unsafe (the Drop Tower accident is a common theme), overrun by poorly behaved teens, poor value, and an eyesore on I-264. The only people who want the park open are civic leaders in Louisville so they can buy some votes, the inner city population that is limited to public transportation, and some park enthusiasts that want a quick and dirty local option. Hart pulled the wool over SIX's eyes once. Now he's trying to do the same to the Commonwealth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccard01 Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 This topic is hilarious. Kentucky Kingdom will never be long-term successful again, and attendance figures don't define success. The general public hates Kentucky Kingdom. It's dirty, unsafe (the Drop Tower accident is a common theme), overrun by poorly behaved teens, poor value, and an eyesore on I-264. The only people who want the park open are civic leaders in Louisville so they can buy some votes, the inner city population that is limited to public transportation, and some park enthusiasts that want a quick and dirty local option. Think about what you mention..."Kentucky Kingdom", wait you should have said "Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom", is dirty, unsafe, overrun by poorly behaved teens, and a POOR VALUE. How do you think all of this could have been prevented? and you also mention "attendance figures don't define success"... why don't tell that to Ed Hart or the Koch Family! btw...how you said the General Public hates this place is completely bogus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I actually bought a season pass to Kentucky Kingdom the year it close I think it was $35 the price of a parking pass at KI. Sadly I never got the chance to use it there but it came in handy for other six flags parks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccard01 Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 Kentucky Kingdom finally has a 20 million dollar investor wanting to reopen the park http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20110823/NEWS01/308230077/Schneider-Cos-willing-guarantee-up-20-million-Kentucky-Kingdom-investment?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Well, not really: At most there is an offer of guaranty (think co-signor), but even that is still in negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccard01 Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 "Fair Board tells legislators Kentucky Kingdom should reopen in May" http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20110825/NEWS01/308250060/Fair-Board-tells-legislators-Kentucky-Kingdom-should-reopen-May?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster_junky Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Kentucky Kingdom may now get the same funding as the Noah Ark project according to the Courier Journal. http://www.courier-j...text%7CHome%7Cs that won't be much money then, all ark encounter is receiving is tax breaks from the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 “We are working very hard, and we think we will achieve success” Yeah, well I think I will win the Lottery on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 A September 30 deadline, bank financing (maybe),an opening perhaps delayed yet another year, negotiations with the Fair Board...yes, there is news, but what does it mean? http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20110913/NEWS01/309130095/Hart-outlines-progress-effort-reopen-Kentucky-Kingdom?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CHome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 And then there is this, rather different story: http://www.bizjournals.com/mobile/louisville/news/2011/09/13/kentucky-kingdom-redevelopment-seeks.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccard01 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 This feels like the NFL lockout:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I mean absolutely no offense to anyone from that state, but I have to say that, personally, the name itself keeps me away. 'Kentucky Kingdom.' Though most are probably unfounded, Kentucky has certain stereotypes associated with it just like any other state. My friends enjoy picking out who they imagine is from Kentucky vs. who is from Ohio when we visit Kings Island. I wouldn't visit "West Virginia Kingdom" if I lived in Ohio, and the idea of an "Ohio Adventure" would hardly get me to book a hotel if I lived in Kentucky. I mean, there are states that are very marketable in a sense, like "Six Flags Over Texas," or "California Adventure..." But Kentucky? If the park were named "Six Flags Adventure Kingdom" or something, I'd have gone in a heartbeat. It's not fair, but it's true for at least one person, and I really don't think I'm the only one who thinks that... I truly am not trying to offend anyone from Kentucky or any other state, but whether they're true or not, pre-conceived notions about states exist, and Kentucky is one of the states that I wouldn't paste a name on to sell it. I imagine that's something at least a few other people feel, but that no one says... Again, whether a stereotype is true or not is unfortunately irrelevant. The fact that it exists - rightly or wrongly - creates very real consequences. I'm not trying to come across as elitist or offensive at all, just stating the way I feel about the park. I think its name really limits out-of-state interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Two things: Six Flags Ohio. Were you involved in renaming Kentucky Fried Chicken to KFC? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccard01 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 this is how I feel and many others...I'm from Louisville...not Kentucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 ^ And without question, Six Flags Louisville would've attracted me more. It is in reasonably close proximity, after all, so there's no logical reason for me not to have visited except that I was turned off by the name. The double-k even came off as "hick-ish" to me, not unlike "Karl's Kar Kare" or the lovely tanning salon I pass in West Virginia, "Kalifornia Sun." Again, that's a product of the stereotype I have always had, but it's still important to acknowledge from a marketing standpoint. ^^ Six Flags Ohio lasted a whopping one year haha. I can see naming parks after destination states and cities (California Adventure, Six Flags St. Louis, Six Flags New Orleans), or if the park actually involves the state by chronicling its history or culture (for example, Six Flags Over Texas, Carowinds), or just as a location designation (Busch Gardens Williamsburg, Universal Studios Florida) but what's the attraction factor in a Six Flags Ohio or a Kentucky Kingdom for someone from New York, or Pennsylvania, or Virginia? I just imagine that "West Virginia Adventure" or "Missouri Kingdom" wouldn't interest me right off The Bat - first impressions and such... And yes, I did have a part in the KFC decision. You can also find my handiwork in McDonald's. Before my suggestion, it was Illinois McBurger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 One must remember who owned the land. Who leased it to Six Flags. And what fair used the park as its principal midway carnival operator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealNightmare Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Old Indiana Fun Park anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 How'd that end? Terp, trained to ask the right questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealNightmare Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Ended in a derailment for the owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 this is how I feel and many others...I'm from Louisville...not Kentucky I'd be more embarrassed to just say I'm from Louisville, thankfully I'm not The wonderful local population is one of the major detractors for the park as far as I am concerned. I understand what you are saying GYK. Though while I was in the Army all of the super strange people were from Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_SoB_fan Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Here what you have to understand about Kentuckians, they are proud to be Kentuckian. They do not care what others think about them, they are glad to be a Kentuckian. So the name Kentucky Kingdom is perfect for reaching Kentuckians. People from Ohio were not Kentucky Kingdom target audience. Heck most prefer cats over dogs and claim to bleed blue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 How'd that end? Terp, trained to ask the right questions Ended in a derailment for the owners. Their business plan really came off the tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealNightmare Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 They obviously weren't coached very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmcoasterin Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Their staff had a problem with train-ing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccard01 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 No Kentucky Kingdom in 2012. http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20110922/NEWS01/309220045/Kentucky-Kingdom-can-t-reopen-2012-developer-says?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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