BeeastFarmer

It's a shame that was not communicated to you and your group ahead of time.

I can attest to this. The experience was well worth it. Either.

Probably not, unless you add the all season unlimited desert prestige superdo pass

That was my point at the time; I postulated that between the Louisville and Lexington market, if they lost 2500 season passes plus an unknown amount of daily passes, they would also loose the per caps. I can't remember the rudimentary math , but if I company could laugh about losing, let's say $100k , thats significant. Of course things have changed since then. If HFE stays long term, I think KI will have no choice but to respond in significant ways.

From Q3 report 2024: "Six Flags today also announced the core objectives of its new long-range plan designed to deliver on the full growth potential of the Combined Company. In many cases, the new objectives represent the natural extension and evolution of strategic initiatives that contributed to the success of legacy Cedar Fair. Enhance the guest experience to deliver a stronger price-value proposition and drive demand . Identify incremental operating efficiencies that generate cost synergies and help drive margin expansion . Maintain a disciplined approach to the prioritization and activation of capital investments to realize the full market potential of each park, while maximizing free cash flow efficiency . Integrate technology stacks with a focus on harmonizing systems, eliminating redundancies, and enhancing the guest-facing digital experience. Review the park portfolio over time, to optimize the asset base , narrow management’s focus, and help reduce net leverage." (italics by me to point out the obvious) My take on this: They want to maximize attendance at all parks. The opportunity will be at legacy Six Flags parks as there is much opportunity there. However, look for a diminished experience at Six Flags parks that had high attendance prior to the merger and historically well attended Cedar Fair parks like KI and CP. Legacy Six Flags parks will need investments in hardware (more high capacity rides and perhaps more trains per coaster) and People. If they achieve higher attendance without enhancing guest experience, long term growth may suffer, or they may continue to attract crowds with a diluted experience with cheap passes, like we see at KI. As they attempt this, parks that fail to step up will be divested as they review the portfolio. Also, well performing parks may be sold off for a quick cash grab.

I remember when I was new here and KK was becoming reborn. That thread was a hot topic then. I was ridiculed for thinking the park would even survive the first season, much less pose any threat to KI At that time, I was told that Kings Island laughs about the thought of KK and Holiday World providing any competition. Times have changed, and Kings Island seems busier than ever. But I never thought I would have a Kentucky Kingdom season pass and would let my Kings Island pass expire.

I used my premium drink plan this weekend with no complaints. Hot chocolate was tasty, available and service was quick. I also got an icee and had no issues. For as crowded as Saturday was, food service was remarkable. Besides the park being unethical and tacky with the drained fountain and closed Eiffel Tower, I have no complaints!

You seem bitter.

Amen bro! We will show them!

Isn't that pretty much the same thing I said, minus the piece about outside candidates being considered?

I'm sure you have inside information as evidenced by your Racer conversation. If you do, please help me understand the timeline on these eliminations. As an outsider, it doesn't make business sense to do this before the winter events are finished. I'm sure your insight could help me see the big picture in a more clear manner.

I think y'all are putting the cart before the horse. Typically, a new leader comes in and evaluates things before cleaning house. Not knowing Six Flags timeline on these realignments, I wouldn't assume that park level positions are changed much before the end of the year. Many parks still have winter events yet to go. Use them and then reassign, terminate or let attrition happen.

I thought they moved The Sweet Spot from merch to food when they redid it a couple years ago?

Ummm... planning would suggest that they can look at a calendar and make an operating schedule. And Kings Island is spending money that they got from my pass with the contractor. So they should dictate the terms of the contract. There is a lot of prep work they can do for Snow Flake Lake without turning off the Royal Fountain. We see it all the time. I mean , Sunday night drain it, Monday morning winterize it and then hand it over. I think they do this just to make their most loyal customers mad. It's so crooked and unethical. Don't even get me started on how they don't have enough Christmas trees at the park. Ever since the current version of WinterFest is on they just don't care about trees. It's ugly.

The amount of time they turn it off is not relevant. The fact that I paid good money for my pass and I can't get what I want, and they don't have anywhere in the terms and conditions that they can just turn it off willy nilly is unethical. For WinterFest it's a repurposed fountain so that's ok. But for them to drain it for THEIR convenience when I have a pass is just wrong. Plus it looks tacky.