stashua123 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 u freakin swear when i went to ki 6/4 from WindSeeker's line, i saw racers supports move while the train was over it so do you think it needs to be refurbished? Dont believe me but i saw it with my own eyes -Stash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 u freakin swear when i went to ki 6/4 from WindSeeker's line, i saw racers supports move while the train was over it so do you think it needs to be refurbished? *I* don't "freakin swear" anything about what "u" saw when "u" went to "ki"! If you were made of wooden planks and a metal train full of Americans drove over you at 40 miles per hour, you might shake, too! That is to say, all wooden roller coasters react to the train traveling overhead and all appear to "shake" when that happens. It's normal and you can rest assured that if anyone were in any foreseeable danger, the ride would not operate. Keep in mind that most man-made structures are able to way, contract, expand, and move with wind, earthquakes, heat, etc. If The Racer was made so rigid that it couldn't sway or shake, how would the energy (shock?) produced by the moving train be released? (One of the smarties here with a physics background can speak more to that, I'm sure). shake more than others, though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Very well put. Wood is a flexible material. It inherently will sway and move when temporary heavy loads are placed on it, such as a roller coaster train. If it was so rigid that it didn`t sway it would become brittle and break, which would not be good. The swaying helps the structure evenly distribute the loads across all members. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I bet you were typing on a telephone, or you were typing fast. Anyways all wood bends at one point or another, yes a few maybe one or two may need to be taken out, but if it were to have major issues then it would be shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Think of it this way, what is easier to break? A normal pencil, or one of those rubber, bendy pencils? The coaster is more like that bendy pencil so it doesn't snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbeast1968 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Watch this video on a coaster, and how it's supposed to bend, when a force travels over it. Do all roller coasters bend this bad? Maybe not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Does The Beast do this? Or Son of Beast for that matter... When I've seen off-ride videos, I haven't noticed any swaying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncars05 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Yes all coasters need to bend and sway especially in turns to absorb the forces created by the train on the tracks. If they are rigid they cannot support the forces created by the train going over and the track and supports would snap causing a catastrophic collapse. They are designed that way. The Legend at HW comes to mind, with its focus on hard laterals, with big shifts by the supports.It's not just wooden roller coasters that bend either... Check out this video of the Diamondback and the first two clips of the b-roll footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbeast1968 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I couldn't find it on youtube, but I saw a video of Wicked Twister(off-ride) It was being filmed underneath the back spike. As the train traversed, the spike swayed. If it doesn't bend, it will break. Movement is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I know Vortex for a fact, the supports sink into the ground (double entendre!) and come back out again. Doesn't this put a lot of wear and tear on the footings? It's noticable on the midway between Coney Mall and Rivertown. What is going on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsIsland vs. Cedarpoint Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Has anyone gone to Cedar Point lately and been inline for the old mine ride? If u watch tht it really sways But yes all coaster have movement it's normal. An has anyone else herd about how The mean streak is smoother then ever!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsIsland vs. Cedarpoint Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 http://www.screamscape.com/html/cedar_point.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Uh what is the point of that link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 ya it has nothing to do with structures another example of how a rollercoaster woobles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Every structure is designed to sway due to forces that are acted upon it. Go to the top of any skyscraper and you will notice it sways in the wind. It is the same with bridges and other tall objects. Even the Eiffel Tower in Pairs and at Kings Island sway in the wind. If it was rigid it would collapse upon itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAHill Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Welp, looks like we gotta rebuild Racer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Christopher Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Every structure is designed to sway due to forces that are acted upon it. Go to the top of any skyscraper and you will notice it sways in the wind. It is the same with bridges and other tall objects. Even the Eiffel Tower in Pairs and at Kings Island sway in the wind. If it was rigid it would collapse upon itself. How are the ducks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Just quacking away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 did Son of Beast ever bend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keysersoze Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I know when I got a chance to do a behind the scenes thing for "The Beast" a few years ago, it was noted how The big helix would visually sway when a train is in it. I was told that was just normal for wooden coasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Yes Son of Beast did bend....in more ways than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 If only it had bent more and broken less..., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windshawne Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I dont' find racers' bending that upsetting-I saw rattler's bends and that seems excessive to me. As far as Beast-I completely trust that structure. It just feels "right". Son never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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