teenageninja Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Keep in mind that FoF only launches at 47/48 m.p.h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterrz Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I`ve always heard that it launches at 53 or 54 miles an hour. Not that 7 or 8 miles an houor really makes that much of a difference on that ride because it is enclosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousLastWords Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Keep in mind that FoF only launches at 47/48 m.p.h. That's what the ride computer used to say. It was wrong. It actually is about 54 mph every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUGBOS Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Keep in mind that FoF only launches at 47/48 m.p.h. That's what the ride computer used to say. It was wrong. It actually is about 54 mph every time. or the opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 According to both Paramount's Kings Island, people who work on Flight of Fear and the Roller Coaster Database, Flight of Fear launches at 54 MPH in 3.9 seconds. So it must be correct. And what is with that huge blank signature NUGBOS? Are you just trying to be annoying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUGBOS Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 According to both Paramount's Kings Island, people who work on Flight of Fear and the Roller Coaster Database, Flight of Fear launches at 54 MPH in 3.9 seconds. So it must be correct. And what is with that huge blank signature NUGBOS? Are you just trying to be annoying? Well the Flight of Fear people you know are wrong. All the Flight of Fear operators i know including myself will tell you that the ride is marketed at going 0-54 in 4 seconds, but in all reality it goes like 47. Kinda like The Beast. Its top speed is marketed at something around...what...65 or so?? Well anyways, the thing doesnt even pass 52 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 BTW Nugbos, aka SOBGUN, I already figured out who you are in another thread and busted you out. You're not the least bit clever. And yes, you are annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI_Diana Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Hey folks, Let's not flame, this is a nice place to be at, and I'd like to keep seeing be nice. Let's all be adults and handle misinformation and disagreements accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matth Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Why don't you guys (FoF operators) ask your favorite ride control electricians, I'm sure they can have an accurate answer as to the speed of the launch each and every time. ..matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I don't normally flame people, Diana, but he is just a nuisance and cursing at everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUGBOS Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 BTW Nugbos, aka SOBGUN, I already figured out who you are in another thread and busted you out. You're not the least bit clever. And yes, you are annoying. good job i also noticed in that other thread you figured out my name backwards is SOBGUN. But that doesnt prove sh*t?? You think im who, SOBGUN Steve-o??? Never dude. But if you want to think thats me go for it, that way people will be not liking him for no reason, and thats fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbeast Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 LOL somebody's really bored DPFSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 If someone proves me wrong, then so be it. I will owe him an apology. But, until you can offer proof, I'm going with what I think. If you're not him, you're still a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousLastWords Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Why don't you guys (FoF operators) ask your favorite ride control electricians, I'm sure they can have an accurate answer as to the speed of the launch each and every time. ..matt I already asked maintenance and the electricians last year, both of them said that the ride computer was giving false numbers and that the ride does indeed launch at 54 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I do not believe NUGBOS and SOB/GUN Steve-O are the same person. Steve-O has a distinct writing style, and it doesn't match with NUGBOS. Of course, he could be changing his style on purpose to mislead us. But I do not believe that it is him. Besides, Steve-O is still an active member. So what reason would he have to use a different user name? The roller coaster database www.rcdb.com lists Flight of Fear at 54 MPH. It has the actual speeds on there - not rounded speeds. I am sure that different loads on the coaster can cause variations on the exact launch speed, but 54 is probably the average. PS - Does anybody know what means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoskins123 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 it means stoo foo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 The roller coaster database www.rcdb.com lists Flight of Fear at 54 MPH. It has the actual speeds on there - not rounded speeds. I am sure that different loads on the coaster can cause variations on the exact launch speed, but 54 is probably the average. No, its wrong, for reasons I cannon't tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosscountry4891 Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 The roller coaster database www.rcdb.com lists Flight of Fear at 54 MPH. It has the actual speeds on there - not rounded speeds. I am sure that different loads on the coaster can cause variations on the exact launch speed, but 54 is probably the average. No, its wrong, for reasons I cannon't tell you. Man, everything PKI related is always "restricted." First the lights on TR:TR which were because of "reason we can't tell you" and now you can't tell us the launch speed on FoF? Why not? It's not like there's any liability issues. It doesn't make sense, so much info about the park is "restricted", but it's only an amusement park!!!! Dane-How do you know all this stuff that we can't know if you don't even work in the park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousLastWords Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 I think Dane is full of B.S. There is no secret conspiracy surrounding FOF's speed. I'm positive that it is 54. If it's not, then the reason is simply because it's more comfortable for the riders, it doesn't put too much stress on the ride, etc. By the way, what lights on TRTR? As I've said many times, I work on that ride and I can tell you this----if there's a problem with the lights, they probably just burned out. Ancient Chinese Secret! HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StXBomber Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 We now have a second ex-FoF ride operator confirming it is 54 MPH. Give it a rest, or I will close this topic. This is to be about IJST, not to whine about FOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousLastWords Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 Whaaaaaaaaa but he said that FoF wa... Okay forget it, I'm leaving it alone For now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 b****, b****, b**** someone call the WAAAHHHAMBULANCE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 The roller coaster database www.rcdb.com lists Flight of Fear at 54 MPH. It has the actual speeds on there - not rounded speeds. I am sure that different loads on the coaster can cause variations on the exact launch speed, but 54 is probably the average. No, its wrong, for reasons I cannon't tell you. Man, everything PKI related is always "restricted." First the lights on TR:TR which were because of "reason we can't tell you" and now you can't tell us the launch speed on FoF? Why not? It's not like there's any liability issues. It doesn't make sense, so much info about the park is "restricted", but it's only an amusement park!!!! Dane-How do you know all this stuff that we can't know if you don't even work in the park? If you don't know about it, there's usually a reason behind it. It's not anything stupid. Dane knows stuff because he KNOWS people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradb055 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 If you really want to know how fast it goes, just take a handheld GPS unit on the ride with you. Assuming that the GPS reciever gets a decient signal, the reciever will tell you max speed. This is the simple solution. If someone wants to get creative... find out the time interval at which the cameras flash, flashes. This information, along with the distance in which each picture is taken (realitive to the train) will show the speed of the train as it passes the camera. If this doesnt work, you could also time (with a stopwatch) the time it takes to travel a certain distance. What distance to use I dont know, but it could be done if someone had a some knowlage(sp?) of the building or the track. Just remember, there are more ways than one to find out the velocity of a rollercoaster, other than by reading a number that is published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 The measuring and timing thing wouldn't work. For one, its pitch black, and there is no way you could measure anything. For two, timing would only give you an average speed, and what we are interested in the launch speed. Once the train leaves the station, it begins to lose kinetic energy from air resistance and friction from the track. And another thing - isn't this thread supposed to be about IJST, not FOF. We were wondering what the launches on IJST would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastmaster Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 ooops ... I meant wait for the const. photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradb055 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 For one, its pitch black, and there is no way you could measure anything. For two, timing would only give you an average speed, and what we are interested in the launch speed. Once the train leaves the station, it begins to lose kinetic energy from air resistance and friction from the track. Yes, I agree... but if your interval is short enough, and at the end of the lauch cycle (just before the first loop) the air resistance and friction would not cause too much of an error ( say plus or minus 5%). I didnt say it was a full prof plan but it could be done. Plus, there is something to measue... if you look closly (while sitting in the front seat) you will see a series of lasers along the track. If someone knew the distance of these lasers, a time interval could be taken between two of them at the end of the lauch sequence. The easiest and best way to find the max speed at the end of the launch is to bring a GPS unit and have it record the results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Once the train leaves the station, it begins to lose kinetic energy from air resistance and friction from the track. I'm not entirely certain that your statement is true. I think it has LIM cabnets all the way down the tube. If you take the speed as opposed to time intervals, you're going to get the average velocity. The only way to get the instintaneous velocity (which would merit the 0 to whatever launch) would be to clock it as soon as it leaves the LIMs. Has the launch been slowed down? I really don't know, but it does feel like it has. Of course, in 96 when the ride opened, the launch concept was new to our park, so of course it felt amazing. That was eight years ago, though. I guess if you get used to it, it does seem to give the illusion that it's slowers. Back to IJST. I'm sure this has been said before, but as far as launches go, you're looking at two stationary launches and a booster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryler87 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 The easiest and best way to find the max speed at the end of the launch is to bring a GPS unit and have it record the results! GP receivers today are better than they were a few years ago, but they are only accurate down to about 5 meters or so; which is still **** good for being estimated by satellites hundreds, even thousands of miles away in the sky. The US Gov't has got the good ones (accurate to less than a yard), but they aren't available to the public. Now, if the launch track is 50 meters long, you could end up with a distance measurement of 40-60 meters. This could severely affect the outcome of calculated velocity. In addition, if the park found out that you brought a GPS receiver along on the ride with you, they'd probably kick you out. It's almost like bringing a camera along on the ride to take on-ride photos. Point being? When it comes to IJST, I would rather use proportions (the distance from those two objects is X, and the two objects are Y distance away from the two objects, etc.) and a stopwatch to estimate the velocity. When it comes to Flight of Fear, I'd just have to put the numbers in God's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 And me, I couldn't give a crap about a few mph's. I love FOF, always have, always will. Beastmaster, with the new sequel coming up, it could be a great way for PKI to advertise for the new sequel during the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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