Starting to Decode 2014

[YoungStud]

Ninja> Vortex

[secondson]

YAY! I'm finally at 500 posts. Where are the fireworks?

What - no fireworks?

Okay, bring on the whi....te milk. Yeah, that's it.

Quoting secondson is an easy way to make new pages appear faster I:

Don't be dragging, Khan.

LMAO!!

One of your best ones to date, Terp.

[Kat]

Yikes!!! Those look freaky lol I have a fear of falling, so it would take A LOT of warming up for me to go to the front on something like that!!! Lol

"I ♥ Diamondback!"

Wait a second Just teasing.

No I do love Diamondback. Front seat hands up is still a thrill to me, though back seat freaks the heck out of me LOL. Now Drop Tower is another story. I HATE IT. I keep forcing myself to go on it thinking at some point I will like it but nope. Facing forward (down) on Invertigo terrifies me, as well. I'm scared I will fall out. I'm only 5'3 and 100 pounds I will NEVER go on EXtreme Skyflyer or Slingshot lol

Ughhh, Slingshot just isn't okay for me. I would much rather depend on carts riding on steel then a steel ball on steel cables. lol

Ditto. I'm ok with falling on roller coasters because I'm secure. Drop Tower scares me bc I can't see below me. Even though I count down from 5 when it stops it still scares me lol

[Maglados]

Who says we're not getting something that hasn't been done before? Like a new type of inversion trickity trick. I mean, I know King's island wouldn't really like to go with something not a safe bet but you go to take a risk somtimes. ( Okay you don't but I'm just putting it out there they might throw a curve-ball at us. Witch I really hope they do.

[KI1997]

Ninja> Vortex

Wow, that's all I have to say.

[bmbillups]

Anyone think The Bat references could be kind of a historical comparison? The Bat was a failed design whose site that Vortex, a world breaking coaster, grew out of. Now we again have a failed coaster's site that is sprouting a world record coaster. Doubtful that is the intention, but it is interesting nonetheless.

A world breaking coaster.

Oh my, I knew some people didn't like Vortex, but I had no idea that it could... wow.

What? Vortex was the tallest full circuit in the world and the first with 6 inversions. You may know this. Not sure what you were saying

First with 6 inversions, yes, but...as for tallest, it was actually 2nd behind...

http://rcdb.com/185.htm

However, back then I could easily see this ride being overlooked, especially since it's in Canada. And it kind of "cheats" to boost its height by being built onto a hillside, where Vortex is "all lift hill". So perhaps it could be debated.

Oddly enough, a similar situtaion exists now between 2 wing coasters- Cedar Point's Gatekeeper and Dollywood's Wild Eagle. Wild Eagle is actually taller, standing 210 feet in the air, but it's built on top of a large hill and only has a 135-foot drop. This picture shows this very well:

Gatekeeper is "only" 170 feet tall, but it doesn't have any "terrain height boosting" at all, so it has a 164-foot drop and Cedar Point has "World's Tallest Wing Coaster" as one of Gatekeeper's record claims...

A bit off-topic, but I felt like posting this.

This is from Wikipedia. I know Wikipedia can't be trusted but kid of weird how it says this "Vortex debuted as the tallest, full-circuit roller coaster with the highest drop in the world. It was also the first to feature six inversions."

[CoasterXtreme]

This forum is

[secondson]

Who says we're not getting something that hasn't been done before? Like a new type of inversion trickity trick. I mean, I know King's island wouldn't really like to go with something not a safe bet but you go to take a risk somtimes. ( Okay you don't but I'm just putting it out there they might throw a curve-ball at us. Witch I really hope they do.

Okay, Glenda.

[The Interpreter]

Ninja> Vortex

Not surprised you said that. It doesn't help Ninja to be beside a wonderful Starflyer. Or GASM.

[sheikra_rocks]

More speculation:

I was actually thinking dive machine the other day after looking at the blue prints.

1. We do not know the height of the ride.

2. The turn at the top of the lift could just be a turn, ala SheiKra and Griffon.

3. Dive machines use big swooping valleys at the bottom of their first drop. That would account for the distance between the turn and first inversion.

4. The loop on the blue print that circles the lift looks a bit wide at the base, possibly to allow for a wide train.

5. Depending on how the Maintenance barn is built, 4 dive trains could possibly fit in there. SheiKra for example has 2 maintenance bays that hold 5 trains.

6. A dive machine of this size would hold every world record for dive machines to date. Height, length, number of inversions.

7. Isn't a multi looping dive machine the logical next step? Considering wing trains are almost as wide as the 8 across dive machine trains. Laterals would be similar.

I can not find a Sheikra blue print, but i sure it would look somewhat similar to this new KI blue print. A direct overhead view, without reference to height and such.

[YoungStud]

Best invert in the world besides volcano and the Intamin impulses.

I was lucky enough to ride all three in the US in 2005/2006.

[YoungStud]

More speculation:

I was actually thinking dive machine the other day after looking at the blue prints.

1. We do not know the height of the ride.

2. The turn at the top of the lift could just be a turn, ala SheiKra and Griffon.

3. Dive machines use big swooping valleys at the bottom of their first drop. That would account for the distance between the turn and first inversion.

4. The loop on the blue print that circles the lift looks a bit wide at the base, possibly to allow for a wide train.

5. Depending on how the Maintenance barn is built, 4 dive trains could possibly fit in there. SheiKra for example has 2 maintenance bays that hold 5 trains.

6. A dive machine of this size would hold every world record for dive machines to date. Height, length, number of inversions.

7. Isn't a multi looping dive machine the logical next step? Considering wing trains are almost as wide as the 8 across dive machine trains. Laterals would be similar.

I can not find a Sheikra blue print, but i sure it would look somewhat similar to this new KI blue print. A direct overhead view, without reference to height and such.

IT IS A INVERT.

[MrSaturdayNite]

Heh heh. Terp said something funny

-MrSaturdayNite and his juvenile sense of humor.

[sheikra_rocks]

Who says we're not getting something that hasn't been done before? Like a new type of inversion trickity trick. I mean, I know King's island wouldn't really like to go with something not a safe bet but you go to take a risk somtimes. ( Okay you don't but I'm just putting it out there they might throw a curve-ball at us. Witch I really hope they do.

Okay, Glenda.

"It's Galinda, with a Ga."

[Kat]

Y'all are wizards at decoding this blueprint. I still can't fully make it out. I kind of get it til the z shapes, then I'm thrown big time!!!!

[THE_BEASTmaster]

More speculation:

I was actually thinking dive machine the other day after looking at the blue prints.

1. We do not know the height of the ride.

2. The turn at the top of the lift could just be a turn, ala SheiKra and Griffon.

3. Dive machines use big swooping valleys at the bottom of their first drop. That would account for the distance between the turn and first inversion.

4. The loop on the blue print that circles the lift looks a bit wide at the base, possibly to allow for a wide train.

5. Depending on how the Maintenance barn is built, 4 dive trains could possibly fit in there. SheiKra for example has 2 maintenance bays that hold 5 trains.

6. A dive machine of this size would hold every world record for dive machines to date. Height, length, number of inversions.

7. Isn't a multi looping dive machine the logical next step? Considering wing trains are almost as wide as the 8 across dive machine trains. Laterals would be similar.

I can not find a Sheikra blue print, but i sure it would look somewhat similar to this new KI blue print. A direct overhead view, without reference to height and such.

Please look at this post real good.

http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27275-starting-to-decode-2014/?p=540105

[fryoj]

More speculation:

I was actually thinking dive machine the other day after looking at the blue prints.

1. We do not know the height of the ride.

2. The turn at the top of the lift could just be a turn, ala SheiKra and Griffon.

3. Dive machines use big swooping valleys at the bottom of their first drop. That would account for the distance between the turn and first inversion.

4. The loop on the blue print that circles the lift looks a bit wide at the base, possibly to allow for a wide train.

5. Depending on how the Maintenance barn is built, 4 dive trains could possibly fit in there. SheiKra for example has 2 maintenance bays that hold 5 trains.

6. A dive machine of this size would hold every world record for dive machines to date. Height, length, number of inversions.

7. Isn't a multi looping dive machine the logical next step? Considering wing trains are almost as wide as the 8 across dive machine trains. Laterals would be similar.

I can not find a Sheikra blue print, but i sure it would look somewhat similar to this new KI blue print. A direct overhead view, without reference to height and such.

Except for all the dual footers.

[sheikra_rocks]

More speculation:

I was actually thinking dive machine the other day after looking at the blue prints.

1. We do not know the height of the ride.

2. The turn at the top of the lift could just be a turn, ala SheiKra and Griffon.

3. Dive machines use big swooping valleys at the bottom of their first drop. That would account for the distance between the turn and first inversion.

4. The loop on the blue print that circles the lift looks a bit wide at the base, possibly to allow for a wide train.

5. Depending on how the Maintenance barn is built, 4 dive trains could possibly fit in there. SheiKra for example has 2 maintenance bays that hold 5 trains.

6. A dive machine of this size would hold every world record for dive machines to date. Height, length, number of inversions.

7. Isn't a multi looping dive machine the logical next step? Considering wing trains are almost as wide as the 8 across dive machine trains. Laterals would be similar.

I can not find a Sheikra blue print, but i sure it would look somewhat similar to this new KI blue print. A direct overhead view, without reference to height and such.

IT IS A INVERT.

IT IS NOT CONFIRMED.

[Kat]

More speculation:

I was actually thinking dive machine the other day after looking at the blue prints.

1. We do not know the height of the ride.

2. The turn at the top of the lift could just be a turn, ala SheiKra and Griffon.

3. Dive machines use big swooping valleys at the bottom of their first drop. That would account for the distance between the turn and first inversion.

4. The loop on the blue print that circles the lift looks a bit wide at the base, possibly to allow for a wide train.

5. Depending on how the Maintenance barn is built, 4 dive trains could possibly fit in there. SheiKra for example has 2 maintenance bays that hold 5 trains.

6. A dive machine of this size would hold every world record for dive machines to date. Height, length, number of inversions.

7. Isn't a multi looping dive machine the logical next step? Considering wing trains are almost as wide as the 8 across dive machine trains. Laterals would be similar.

I can not find a Sheikra blue print, but i sure it would look somewhat similar to this new KI blue print. A direct overhead view, without reference to height and such.

IT IS A INVERT.

"A" invert??? Rotflol

[FoF96"]

Best invert in the world besides volcano and the Intamin impulses.

I was lucky enough to ride all three in the US in 2005/2006.

I may be wrong, but wasn't it you that called it "invertiblow"? All déjà vu is would be an overgrown Invertigo...

[YoungStud]

Totally different bro. Different trains, 90 degree drops. Its awsome. There is one now in Idaho and at sfne. Not sure where the third is now.

[The Interpreter]

The Deja Vu ride experience shares very little with Invertigo.

[homestar92]

As has been pointed out by YoungStud many, many times, the blueprints had a part number for an invert. If you are accepting them as valid, then you HAVE to accept that this is an invert. Only if the blueprints are fake can it be a dive coaster. Or ANYTHING that isn't a B&M Invert.

[sheikra_rocks]

More speculation:

I was actually thinking dive machine the other day after looking at the blue prints.

1. We do not know the height of the ride.

2. The turn at the top of the lift could just be a turn, ala SheiKra and Griffon.

3. Dive machines use big swooping valleys at the bottom of their first drop. That would account for the distance between the turn and first inversion.

4. The loop on the blue print that circles the lift looks a bit wide at the base, possibly to allow for a wide train.

5. Depending on how the Maintenance barn is built, 4 dive trains could possibly fit in there. SheiKra for example has 2 maintenance bays that hold 5 trains.

6. A dive machine of this size would hold every world record for dive machines to date. Height, length, number of inversions.

7. Isn't a multi looping dive machine the logical next step? Considering wing trains are almost as wide as the 8 across dive machine trains. Laterals would be similar.

I can not find a Sheikra blue print, but i sure it would look somewhat similar to this new KI blue print. A direct overhead view, without reference to height and such.

Please look at this post real good.

http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27275-starting-to-decode-2014/?p=540105

I see that.

I also see an extra wide base at the bottom of that loop.

Raptor and Montu's loop is not that wide.

And don't say it is like that because it goes around the lift...

I cam calling it.... DIVE MACHINE

[THE_BEASTmaster]

YoungStud, three of those coasters have been relocated too, for many unreliable reasons.

http://rcdb.com/r.htm?ot=2&mo=8207

[YoungStud]

Who cares, it was a awsome ride experience!!!!

[secondson]

Who says we're not getting something that hasn't been done before? Like a new type of inversion trickity trick. I mean, I know King's island wouldn't really like to go with something not a safe bet but you go to take a risk somtimes. ( Okay you don't but I'm just putting it out there they might throw a curve-ball at us. Witch I really hope they do.

Okay, Glenda.

"It's Galinda, with a Ga."

Actually, we're both wrong. It's Glinda, spelled with an "i", but no "Ga".

[CoasterXtreme]

I got a great idea, Let's see what Kings Island Calls it Thursday!!!

[Kat]

Have you ridden a Deja Vu? The ride experience shares very little with Invertigo.

I'm curious how it is different because it sure seems very similar to me. Never ridden it, would have to look up a picture of the whole layout but that video sure seemed just like Invertigo, only different surroundings and slightly different lift hill mechanisms. The stoppers seem different and I didn't hear the distinctive CLICK! that one hears on Invertigo...

[YoungStud]

Different trains and 90 degree lifts. Completely different.