Stitch Posted December 30, 2002 Posted December 30, 2002 The Beast's Trains Are The Best Because You Really Feel The Speed In Them. I like the shakes! Quote
AZ Kinda Guy Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 So rumor has it, that The Beast is being retracked for next year? I'll bet that comes at a hefty price. 28,000 feet of steel, would not be cheap. I wonder if new steel, means they will have to get new trains? It's not a rumor, it's a fact. Then again, Beastie and Racer will recieve the same treatment Beast is getting. Offseason trackwork is normal on every wood coaster. Now I'm sure one will recieve more than the other but in general, offseason trackwork is normal and is nothing to speculate about. Quote
Stitch Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 That's what I thought they meant but I got blown out of proportion Quote
Beastfreak Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 Heck they've been replacing wood on The Racer a lot at the end of the season. They had a dumpster parked in the trees behind the turn around full of white wood. This picture I took shows some of the wood replaced in August. Plus why would replacing the steel track on The Beast mean they have to get new cars? Just means the old track was wearing away, things rust you know and break. Quote
fyrfyter Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 Plus why would replacing the steel track on The Beast mean they have to get new cars? Just means the old track was wearing away, things rust you know and break. If the track has to have that much work done to it, what about the trains? They just magically hold up over time? I would like to see new trains, as long as they are better than the SOB trains. Quote
Stitch Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 I disagree keep The Beast the same, if you change it then it's obviosly not the same! Quote
Beastfreak Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 The trains get taken off every winter and worked on and overhauled. So they don't need to replace the whole train when they can just replace the axils and such. The only reason they switched trains in the past was for safety reasons. They now have the seat dividers and head rests unlike the old original trains. Track is replaced all the time on wooden coasters across the country. You don't see every park getting new trains every year do you? Quote
Stitch Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 You don't see every park getting new trains every year do you? I agree with this 100% no need to worry about The Beast I just hope that they remove the new trim brakes and speed the lift back up! Quote
fyrfyter Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 I'm pretty sure the trim brakes are here to stay. I'm sure they help the ride, as the extreme speeds and stresses on the wood, probably helps it deteriorate faster, thus the trim brakes help preserve the ride. Maybe the reason the lift is so slow, is that mechanical things are dying. maybe it just needs a new motor to power the chain up the hill? Who knows, but I bet they won't let it get too slow, so that keep three trains on the circuit and running smoothly. The onyl reason I mentioned replacing the trains, was because I wasn't sure of their age, and I'm sure at some point in time, they will be changed, when PKI opts to do a cost vs. benefit analysis of them. Quote
Dane Posted January 1, 2003 Posted January 1, 2003 The reason the lift hill is slow is because it is unsyncronized with the coaster. Mabey the sensor that tells the lift hill to speed up is damaged? Or the timers are off. I remember watching it in the wait line and it does speed up and slow down. But it did it at the wrong time. Quote
Captain Picard Posted January 1, 2003 Posted January 1, 2003 The Beast had trim brakes before they just replaced the old ones and i think the lift hill is slow is because the other trains have to be past the the top of the second lift before the next can go over the first and going slow gives time for that when 3 trains are in use Quote
Stitch Posted January 1, 2003 Posted January 1, 2003 Yeah but all last season the lift would start out real slow then speed up for 4 secs then go slow and then you were at the top. I remember 2001 season the lift was bigity bam at getting to the top and you would allways see the other train on the saecond lift (Unless there was a problem) Quote
Captain Picard Posted January 1, 2003 Posted January 1, 2003 yes and it was slower with the new brakes in 2002 than 2001 so it would take longer for the other train to get to the top of the second lift and they would need to slow the first lift to make up for the time is my guess Quote
fyrfyter Posted January 2, 2003 Posted January 2, 2003 That sounds about right. Chances are good that everything is computer controlled by prox sensors and I/O cards, that way you can eliminate any chance of human error from the equation. That is probably what defines how fast the train gets to the top of the hill. Quote
AZ Kinda Guy Posted January 2, 2003 Posted January 2, 2003 The different lift speeds is a preset computer controlled function. As for the reason about the various speeds on a lift is simple. When the lifts do this, the computer is simply spacing out the trains on the course. Quote
Captain Picard Posted January 2, 2003 Posted January 2, 2003 this maybe why they changed the brakes http://xpp.coasterbuzz.com/news.asp?NewsID=55 Quote
fyrfyter Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 That reason is why the magnetic fin brakes, were installed in the station, as well as where the old trim brakes used to be. The magnetic fin brakes, are much more reliable than the older wedge style brakes that The Beast used to have. Quote
Stitch Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 Yeah, that was one of the resons for the new brakes but not the reason for the slow lift Quote
adam12 Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 I do not care what anyone says, The Beast will always be the BEST ride in history. I guess it is the history behind it that fasinates me. There is no match for the kind of ride you get with The Beast! The Beast is also the last roller coster I got to ride with my dad before he died in Sept. 1999. -adam12 Quote
Captain Picard Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 the brakes are not magnetic fin brakes they are friction a magnetic fin is what is on mf at Cedar Point or permanent magnets on drop zone and as i said it was going slower in 2002 than in 2001 with new brakes and the lift has to slow for spacing out the trains Quote
Beastfreak Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 Picard, you are wrong like I was long time ago. I even email Jeff Siebert to find out the truth. They use a combination of magnetic and friction. The friction brakes rub on the fins in the station and on the final break run, but through out the rest of the ride they are all magnetic. The fins just aren't on the sides like on MF, its the same fin for each brake which is mounted underneath. Quote
fyrfyter Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 Whether Magnetic or friction, every braking system on every caoster out there uses magnets to tell when to activate. There are magnetic proximity switches mounted near the brakes. Those are the little green boxes you see. Each has a magnetic senor in it,, and can tell when metal passes in front of it, thus realying to the computer, and telling the brakes when to activate. Quote
Captain Picard Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 ok i did not know that they use a combination Quote
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