flightoffear1996 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Just to give you guys the kind of confidence behind the minds at B&M, when Nemesis opened at Alton Towers, John Wardley, a major concept designer in the industry and the creative mind behind AT's more infamous rides, infamously asked Walter Bolliger up front "What if the ride stalls? How will we get trains back to the station?" and Walter replied "Our coasters never stall. They always work perfectly the first time." Please have them explain the Raptor stall then. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBlade21 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 ^ The seagulls did it. Its' all their fault... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 A seagull also caused a problem with Gatekeeper lol Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBlade21 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 ^ I think I remember seeing a Youtube video with the ride ops pulling a seagull out from the front row seats... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Yep there is one. Bird strike on Gatekeeper Roller Coaster, Cedar P…: Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 This is an enthusiast built website correct? If King's Island wants an official forum with rules to follow they should make one. Anyway I just want media day to be here. All of the going back and forth about capitalization, linking, and legal photos is getting pretty old and I've only been on here maybe two months. But hey, its traffic and new posts right? You may want Media Day, but you may not enter if you don't follow Kings Island's rules or requests. Remember, they don't have to let anybody but the Media in. They are gracious enough to let card holding coaster enthusiasts into Media Day. Just some something to think about. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APE Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Here's a dead horse.....and here's how to beat it. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealNightmare Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Oh man so that's what that Micheal Jackson song is about. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiocolts Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I was not aware of that fact lol but yeah that seems creepy hahaha Oh, just wait until all the 13-year-old boys start cracking jokes about riding a female coaster come Opening Day. All of them? I think ohiocolts is a tad more mature than that.... Thank you!!! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOBwasaSOB Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 There's some things I want to say about sucking up to the park like some members are...but will not since this is s family site...so instead I will say Banshee looks gracious in flight and I am super jealous of club members going to media day. I can wait til opening day though, I will get a few rides in! Follow rules and discuss the topic and we will all enjoy the site more (yes I know some rules are dumb). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Here's a dead horse.....and here's how to beat it. Like this ? 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Raptor is still a great ride after all these years. I have never been through an Immelman before on an inverted coaster. Should be a sight to see and feel. You will not go through an Immelmann on Banshee. Banshee has a dive loop. An Immelmann is a dive loop that is traveled in the opposite direction. The train on Banshee would need to be traveling the opposite direction in order to call this an Immelmann. Immelmann is an areal maneuver that was created by a WW1 pilot named Max Immelmann. Had photos ready to go, but apparently that is not an option anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBlade21 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 ^ The batwing consists of a dive loop followed by an Immelmann. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini XL-200 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 There's some things I want to say about sucking up to the park like some members are... I am not sucking up to the park. I actually understand why the rule is in place and agree with it. Seriously, is it really THAT big of a deal to be required to press the shift key an extra time or copy and past the link to the source of a photo or video? It amazes me how people have a problem with simple things like that. They just spent 25 million plus more money on a huge new coaster plus other changes like The Bat, and some people can't follow a simple request from the park without complaining about it. Would you rather have the freedom of not capitalizing Trademarks, or Banshee? Not capitalizing Trademarks or Media Day? Seriously... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Though it is not called that by the manufacturer. It is called a Batwing. Also, "Immelmann" is a person's name and should always be capitalized. Also, B&M classifies Leviathan as a Hyper Coaster, and Banshee as an Inverted Coaster. Not "Giga" or "Invert". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Just curious.... is there a difference between an Inverted Coaster and an Invert Coaster? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Just curious.... is there a difference between an Inverted Coaster and an Invert Coaster? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk "Invert" is sort of the informal name used by a lot of the public... err, enthusiasts. The public probably refer to them as "ones that hang under the track" 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTCO Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Bracing myself for possibly 'breaking rules' But I found this video on YouTube and figured I post it here unless it was posted pages ago considering the date of this video. Ain't even a month old yet but still a neat video. Video found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gmIxuxlzEg 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 The things you can plug into an iPhone is amazing. That microphone is so cool. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Just curious.... is there a difference between an Inverted Coaster and an Invert Coaster? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk People want to enforce the proper usage of certain things but not others. So I just pointed it out, that B&M calls Banshee an "Inverted Coaster", and calls Leviathan a "Hyper Coaster". B&M does not produce Giga Coasters. http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com/ Click the "Roller Coasters" link on their website. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOBwasaSOB Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 There's some things I want to say about sucking up to the park like some members are...I am not sucking up to the park. I actually understand why the rule is in place and agree with it. Seriously, is it really THAT big of a deal to be required to press the shift key an extra time or copy and past the link to the source of a photo or video? It amazes me how people have a problem with simple things like that. They just spent 25 million plus more money on a huge new coaster plus other changes like The Bat, and some people can't follow a simple request from the park without complaining about it. Would you rather have the freedom of not capitalizing Trademarks, or Banshee? Not capitalizing Trademarks or Media Day? Seriously... Absolutely none of that is what I was referring to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethancoaster Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Yep there is one. Bird strike on Gatekeeper Roller Coaster, Cedar P…: Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk Oh no I sense a PETA lawsuit. Get ready for more complaints about dead birds. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterMyths79 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 ^^^Roller coaster should have insurance for things like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethancoaster Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiRyEYBN40Y 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini XL-200 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 A lot of manufacturers have unique names for their coaster elements, just like their coaster types. For example: Vekoma calls their (full circuit) Inverts "Suspended Looping Coasters". B&M also calls their Corkscrews "Flat Spins". Technically, a Batwing consists of a Reverse Side winder followed by a Sidewinder. The "Batwing" on Banshee is not a true Batwing (in my opinion) because its a Batwing is actually a Reverse Sidewinder into an Immelmann. But it is accepted as a Batwing because B&M and KI are calling that, which is perfectly ok because its so close to an actual Batwing. (I call it a Batwing as well since it's unique and there's not an official enthusiast name for it). Also, Arrow Dynamics called their Batwings "Boomerangs" (although their first ever they called it a "Kamikaze Curve"). Although, everyone calling it a Pretzel Knot are also correct. A Pretzel Knot is an enlarged version of the Batwing. So technically, the Batwing on Banshee is actually a Pretzel Knot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roller_coaster_elements#Pretzel_knot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roller_coaster_elements#Batwing http://vekoma.com/index.php/experience-thrill-coasters/suspended-looping-coaster Note: Element names are not completely agreed upon by all enthusiasts, so if you don't agree with that definition that is fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealNightmare Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Oh man not this again. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini XL-200 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Not this again? I posted general definitions. What's wrong with that? I supported calling it a Batwing... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 A seagull also caused a problem with Gatekeeper lol And practically every other ride at Cedar Point.. Looooove it...Grinch grin everytime I see one of those little heathens taken out 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini XL-200 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I think Cedar Point should add those little spikes to the top of Raptor's lift that prevent Birds from landing on surfaces like that. Maybe that would keep it from being turned white. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Those spikes don't stop them on Raptor..trust me there.. Have you not looked around you on the ride. Fresh white..paint everywhere 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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